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Top 15 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation 4.0

Mind and soul are the same thing in garo so she'd likely need soul hax to mind hax him (dk if she does and don't know if it counter madness type 3)
A note of course that due to the nature of Samurai Souls her stuff can't actually affect his soul/mind as it's IM2/Fate
Though there is an argument that the madness works either way due to the nature of type 3 madness but eh
Should also note that Overlord minds and souls are the same thing soooo
25 layers of passive madness T3 and death manipulation still kills them all.
 
Realizing that since we allow optional equipment on the list I can throw a maxed out Noita at the 9-A list
Good luck
the 4+ more love stacks gives them infinite potency passive mind hax, which clears everyone up to hachimaru, who gets hit with literally any giga optimized wand hitting him for arbitrarily high AP, or polys him into a sheep or yadda yadda yadda, Isaac gets hit with the More Love, and for ainz it really does just depend on if Ainz will use True Death on a person who he doesn't know will ress because if he doesn't, then the noita will come back, fire a single wand, cease to exist though reduce lifetime + cessation and sic the infinite spell engine on Ainz
 
Realizing that since we allow optional equipment on the list I can throw a maxed out Noita at the 9-A list
Good luck
the 4+ more love stacks gives them infinite potency passive mind hax, which clears everyone up to hachimaru, who gets hit with literally any giga optimized wand hitting him for arbitrarily high AP, or polys him into a sheep or yadda yadda yadda, Isaac gets hit with the More Love, and for ainz it really does just depend on if Ainz will use True Death on a person who he doesn't know will ress because if he doesn't, then the noita will come back, fire a single wand, cease to exist though reduce lifetime + cessation and sic the infinite spell engine on Ainz
Ainz's first move with unknown is time stop then test resistances. As True Death is his strongest death spell that's single target, that's what he'll use.
 
Ainz's first move with unknown is time stop then test resistances. As True Death is his strongest death spell that's single target, that's what he'll use.
Huh, rip
What noita gets for using "unconventional" methods of just killing you on the spot
 
Realizing that since we allow optional equipment on the list I can throw a maxed out Noita at the 9-A list
Good luck
the 4+ more love stacks gives them infinite potency passive mind hax, which clears everyone up to hachimaru, who gets hit with literally any giga optimized wand hitting him for arbitrarily high AP, or polys him into a sheep or yadda yadda yadda, Isaac gets hit with the More Love, and for ainz it really does just depend on if Ainz will use True Death on a person who he doesn't know will ress because if he doesn't, then the noita will come back, fire a single wand, cease to exist though reduce lifetime + cessation and sic the infinite spell engine on Ainz
It's a shame that it's an outdated profile, with zero references (which is mandatory) and there are practically no scans. So yeah, it's not a valid indication for the tier.
 
It's a shame that it's an outdated profile, with zero references (which is mandatory) and there are practically no scans. So yeah, it's not a valid indication for the tier.
It's a shame that it isn't outdated in a way that matters, that the references would all be to the same game and thus don't need to exist, and the scans don't really matter when it'd literally just be the same as linking the .gg wiki, which already has everything indexed
 
It's a shame that it isn't outdated in a way that matters, that the references would all be to the same game and thus don't need to exist, and the scans don't really matter when it'd literally just be the same as linking the .gg wiki, which already has everything indexed

Games and Movies

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  • Always include the References section in character pages, explanation pages, information blogs, and verse-specific powers and abilities pages to source all the important information covered within them. To learn more regarding how to use them, read the References page. New pages without that section may be deleted after ample warning if no adequate justification (such as the series lacking any useful demarcations, or none of the justifications on the page coming from only one specific part of the source material) is provided in the edit summary or in response to inquiry, and no indication that they will be added is given.
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It's still mandatory, whether you like it or not.
 
Mardicus minimum range is 60 meters, he can easily use seal on her, before her getting closer
if he looks at her, it is done and by being 60m away, yeah, he's going to.


and don't know if it counter madness type 3
you kinda have to be sure it does, because even if it doesn't lead to killing, incapping is also gg


Anyone that has to look at her to try winning and can't counter the effects of Disturbing Presence is gg

@Dragonite007 before i study more to try and debate if she can somehow deal with Ainz even in SBA (i feel like i won't lol)
Seems like Elizabeth will occupy the 5th position with speed equal
 
Old profiles are exempt, espeically if they were made before refs were mandatory.
Also, I will remove characters I could tell at a glance were no longer a member of the tier they were listed under. I will also remove profiles that are heavily outdated or lack active enough supporters to defend their position.
Reference: The Game (99999 times)

Games and Movies

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"Any notable events around the time of the feat" That doesn't exist, it's an open world roguelike, any references given would once more just be "Noita" repeated a trillion times and and what we use the referencing system for (so that if scans get removed and what not people can verify their existence) is just already there, if you google noita supernova, noita more love, or literally any of the relevant subject matters you'll get pointed in the direction of the relevant sources anyways
 
striking strength seems to be a main defining criteria and his is never 9-A
but i guess he'd be going far in 9-B
Oh yeah, I forgot the 9-A key was for wands, could reach 9-A, but that'd be through leg day stacking and mean they could reach any tier, so whoops
Uuuuuh, everyone up to 6th gets got by More Love, 6th gets hit with Omega Black Hole, Poly, or your choice of **** everything in that direction + Lifetime reduced Cessation, 5, 4 and 3 all get More Loved, no idea why Slappy is tying with a Critter but he gets More Love and then there was gelt
Honestly wondering if he has anything against the infinite potency transmutation resistance, but reaper can correct me if I'm wrong
 
Oh yeah, I forgot the 9-A key was for wands, could reach 9-A, but that'd be through leg day stacking and mean they could reach any tier, so whoops
Uuuuuh, everyone up to 6th gets got by More Love, 6th gets hit with Omega Black Hole, Poly, or your choice of **** everything in that direction + Lifetime reduced Cessation, 5, 4 and 3 all get More Loved, no idea why Slappy is tying with a Critter but he gets More Love and then there was gelt
Honestly wondering if he has anything against the infinite potency transmutation resistance, but reaper can correct me if I'm wrong
Turning him into gold on the body, mind, soul, information 2, conceptual 1, level. If not that, then Gelt just melts anything metal on him and runs circles around him spamming SoL beams on Quicksilver.

But I don't see how they stop Morgan Yu from just... blastfucking him. Or how he beats WaBS which has busted passive thanks to shattering IIRC
 
Turning him into gold on the mind, soul, information 2, conceptual 1, level. If not that, then Gelt just melts anything metal on him and runs circles around him spamming SoL beams on Quicksilver.
Yeah that does it
But I don't see how they stop Morgan Yu from just... blastfucking him. Or how he beats WaBS which has busted passive thanks to shattering IIRC
WaB absolutely beats the noita, I'm just saying they should also just beat slappy 6 ways to saturday (why is slappy tied with them, genuinely)
Morgan gets hit with infinite potency mind/empath hax passively, and if that (somehow) doesn't do it, the homing blitzing omega black hole off a single wand cast should do the job
Edit: There's also the invul/immunity/high 3-A dura but like, that's just insurance at this point
 
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Oh yeah, I forgot the 9-A key was for wands, could reach 9-A, but that'd be through leg day stacking and mean they could reach any tier, so whoops
Uuuuuh, everyone up to 6th gets got by More Love, 6th gets hit with Omega Black Hole, Poly, or your choice of **** everything in that direction + Lifetime reduced Cessation, 5, 4 and 3 all get More Loved, no idea why Slappy is tying with a Critter but he gets More Love and then there was gelt
Honestly wondering if he has anything against the infinite potency transmutation resistance, but reaper can correct me if I'm wrong
Is the More Loved stuff the whole inf mind potency stuff? If it's Mind, I don't really see it affecting Neo. Then again, I'm not exactly sure what the hell is the Omega Black Hole stuff or the poly stuff (and if they are passive). That said, Neo can simply resurrect from practically anything, and has thought-based shenanigans.
 
Is the More Loved stuff the whole inf mind potency stuff? If it's Mind, I don't really see it affecting Neo. Then again, I'm not exactly sure what the hell is the Omega Black Hole stuff or the poly stuff (and if they are passive). That said, Neo can simply resurrect from practically anything, and has thought-based shenanigans.
More love is passive infinite mind (well empath but potato potato) hax yeah
Omega Black Hole is literally just a spell that sends a black hole at someone (which inlcude homing and whatnot, and also blitzes at this tier given it can be made to go well faster than the SoL spells), poly refers to all the branches of the polymorphine effect, of which the noita has various ways to do it like spawning in squidward with monstrous powder, or through their own transmutation effects, mainly through the circle of metaphorpasis spell, which negates the abilities of other creatures and so on (though if the null part of that will work is a seperate matter), and yeah neo can ress but the issue is that he only has five lives vs the noita who can do this shit ad nuauseum (there's also an argument for them passively killing him on the matter of electrify in theory being high 3-A but that's a whole other can of worms), or doing arbitarily high into 3-A amounts of damage per instant whenever he spawns back in
 
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More love is passive infinite mind (well empath but potato potato) hax yeah
Omega Black Hole is literally just a spell that sends a black hole at someone (which inlcude homing and whatnot, and also blitzes at this tier given it can be made to go well faster than the SoL spells), poly refers to all the branches of the polymorphine effect, of which the noita has various ways to do it like spawning in squidward with monstrous powder, or through their own transmutation effects, mainly through the circle of metaphorpasis spell, which negates the abilities of other creatures and so on (though if the null part of that will work is a seperate matter), and yeah neo can ress but the issue is that he only has five lives vs the noita who can do this shit ad nuauseum (there's also an argument for them passively killing him on the matter of electrify in theory being high 3-A but that's a whole other can of worms), or doing arbitarily high into 3-A amounts of damage per instant whenever he spawns back in
The thing is, are all of those passives or thought-based? Additionally, I assume since Noita has Uni level via prep, then the distance would be 4km? If so, then yeah, I guess he can win. Although Noita won't actually be able to keep Neo dead for 24 hours (since iirc, the 5 stacks isn't an actual limit, and more like how many times he can resurrect a day, and he can stay dead for a period of time and come back, hence he can come back after an hour or so), and that maybe Neo could eventually just, adapt and gain a fuckton of new abilities (or hell, even become a Mythic key eventually), but it's very debatable. If the range isn't 4KM and Noita's stuff isn't thought-based, I'd argue Neo can just insta-win, but otherwise, I'll just give it to Noita.
 
The thing is, are all of those passives or thought-based?
It's eh on being thought-based or not, wands don't exactly have like, a minimum time to use from what I can remember, you click and woops there goes the entire screen with no real known minimum cast time, but there is a cooldown time
Additionally, I assume since Noita has Uni level via prep, then the distance would be 4km?
Less prep and more optimization of wands (you can basically imagine them having an arbitarily high number in any stat but dura, which is just a flat high 3-A), but yeah (the prep stuff is something they can't pull off in battle because they require setting specific things that wouldn't be present on earth, beyond like, Fungal Shifts, but those are also weird and if we let them set those up before battle then we have further problems)
But yeah they have 4km range easily
Although Noita won't actually be able to keep Neo dead for 24 hours (since iirc, the 5 stacks isn't an actual limit, and more like how many times he can resurrect a day, and he can stay dead for a period of time and come back, hence he can come back after an hour or so), and that maybe Neo could eventually just, adapt and gain a fuckton of new abilities (or hell, even become a Mythic key eventually), but it's very debatable.
Huh, neat
 
Hey, here am i again!

Today, i'll be talking about putting Espectro Inesquecido "Liz" Webber in our 9-A section.
Her main haxes are based on layers and one of her strongest attacks, which she should be doing immediately as the fight starts, if possible, is to Terrify, which has 15 layers of Fear and Mind manips, if she's at close range. The biggest problem of her oppositors is Disturbing Presence, which procs immediately when the match starts, passively, and needs 25* layers of resistance to everything to not get cooked immediately.


Due to this one having no layers described, starting at close range definetely doesn't help
Alice speed blitzes to hell and back.
 
Also Alice being still within the 9A rankings is a testament to how little people care for that tier because holy hell how is she still up there.

How the hell is there still a spot left.
 
speed is equalized, and just by him seeing her, he's prone to the effects of Disturbing Presence
Pretty sure speed equal is only applicable if it allows them to beat that spot but if they can't beat anyone higher with speed equal or beat alice in speed unequal. They would share the spot with that note
 
speed is equalized, and just by him seeing her, he's prone to the effects of Disturbing Presence
Speed amps still work in speed equalized though...? If those effects arent instant then I dont see how this becomes a issue. Alice speed and perception amp is slow motion ^3. She would have stabbed her a million times and over before Liz moved a single centimeter
 
Speed amps still work in speed equalized though...? If those effects arent instant then I dont see how this becomes a issue. Alice speed and perception amp is slow motion ^3. She would have stabbed her a million times and over before Liz moved a single centimeter
Even if she's unable to think before he moves
Because he looked at her, Disturbing Presence procs, gg.

Pretty sure speed equal is only applicable if it allows them to beat that spot but if they can't beat anyone higher with speed equal or beat alice in speed unequal. They would share the spot with that note
The point is she can get much much farther with speed equalized, that's why she'll be sharing the 5th position with Isaac, not that position with Alice
 
Because he looked at her, Disturbing Presence procs, gg.
That's the exact reason why she ain't getting higher, because there are people who can just gg her without looking at her
But whoever needs to look at her or just simply does, it's gg
 
Does anyone in 8-C besides God of War wraiths, the guys in second, and maybe Kim and Shana have a way to survive boo speed unequalized
 
Even if she's unable to think before he moves
Because he looked at her, Disturbing Presence procs, gg.
Going by the page, the effect doesnt seem instant, nor guaranteed for that matter. Alice powered through genuinly horrific shit, so unless we are talking about instant lethal mind hax, Alice thinks and stabs it to death before she gets knocked out or killed by its presence
 
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