UNDERTALE/DELTARUNE [shiny new] DISCUSSION THEAD

[Axorandom0]

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[Echidnacodefan2512]

Say hi to the unused bell attack

You can also argue for Hypersonic/High Hypersonic Gerson stealing the items since when the feat happens there is a massive slow down effect

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[Axorandom0]

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my message was unrelated to the other one sorry if that was unclear

 

[Echidnacodefan2512]

my message was unrelated to the other one sorry if that was unclear

Ok

 

[Moon_Crasher]

I’ll add a Mach 2ish end then

References for common feats has it at like 2,500 kph.

 

[Axorandom0]

References for common feats has it at like 2,500 kph.

converts to mach 2.024619242

 

[LittleGuy99]

Hell nah

 

[Edutyn]

About Gerson stealing the items

Sinnce there seems to be a slow down effect (the item Susie trowns moves slowers & the sparkle in the cristal are slow), i think that the feat could be recalced using the slow motion method.

But, i'm not I'm not entirely sure how to calculate it. I've heard that I have to use the speed of a snail and then divide that by the character's speed (Susie) to get the time.

Wich would boost the feat to MHS

Does anyone know if that's the correct way to do it, or if it simply doesn't work?

 

[Axorandom0]

About Gerson stealing the items

Sinnce there seems to be a slow down effect (the item Susie trowns moves slowers & the sparkle in the cristal are slow), i think that the feat could be recalced using the slow motion method.

But, i'm not I'm not entirely sure how to calculate it. I've heard that I have to use the speed of a snail and then divide that by the character's speed (Susie) to get the time.

Wich would boost the feat to MHS

Does anyone know if that's the correct way to do it, or if it simply doesn't work?

Why are we automatically assuming it’s to this degree? If it’s just a regular slowdown then we should figure out just how much slower it’s playing out and apply that boost to the calc

 

[Randomuser3412]

The whole thing is kinda weird, since Gerson just disappears completely before reappearing. If we use the timeframe actually shown, it won't be impressive at all unless we're saying he just left to go drink a root beer and then came back or something

 

[Echidnacodefan2512]

The whole thing is kinda weird, since Gerson just disappears completely before reappearing. If we use the timeframe actually shown, it won't be impressive at all unless we're saying he just left to go drink a root beer and then came back or something

It light speed guys

He reacting to real light.

 

[Axorandom0]

It light speed guys

He reacting to real light.

Sometimes I can’t tell when you’re joking or not

 

[Echidnacodefan2512]

Sometimes I can’t tell when you’re joking or not

Just you look closely in the item animation.

 

[Axorandom0]

Just you look closely in the item animation.

I think that’s just a representation of it being generically shiny as to represent it potentially being any item, so we shouldn’t use it for light scaling or anything like that

 

[Echidnacodefan2512]

I think that’s just a representation of it being generically shiny as to represent it potentially being any item, so we shouldn’t use it for light scaling or anything like that

There argument that says otherwise tho

 

[Echidnacodefan2512]

Since items like tension max become "light" to the lightners bodys aka waves

 

[Echidnacodefan2512]

Since items like tension max become "light" to the lightners bodys aka waves

You know, the most funny foreshadowing to this is the "star" dialogue but anyway.

 

[Echidnacodefan2512]

You know, the most funny foreshadowing to this is the "star" dialogue but anyway.

 

[Moon_Crasher]

Now that we know that sans' durability negation is going to be targeted next, maybe some form of defense for it should be worked on preemptively? Idk, I don't really have too much stake in this.

 

[LittleGuy99]

Now that we know that sans' durability negation is going to be targeted next, maybe some form of defense for it should be worked on preemptively? Idk, I don't really have too much stake in this.

@ShionAH Hey

 

[Randomuser3412]

Now that we know that sans' durability negation is going to be targeted next, maybe some form of defense for it should be worked on preemptively? Idk, I don't really have too much stake in this.

 

[Moon_Crasher]

If sans' dura negation does stay, maybe a blog or note explaining how it works and is applied in vs threads can be made one day? Since it's kinda confusing to newbies such as myself.

 

[Echidnacodefan2512]

 

[AyOgUyS]

If sans' dura negation does stay, maybe a blog or note explaining how it works and is applied in vs threads can be made one day? Since it's kinda confusing to newbies such as myself.

A note could be added onto his profile methinks

 

[AyOgUyS]

Just you look closely in the item animation.

that is just a generic glowy sparkle. unless there r reliable statements that it is made of photons, I doubt it is actual light

 

[Kellex]

Yeah, it just looks really cool. Same thing with darkners too.

 

[AyOgUyS]

scout where r u...

 

[Randomuser3412]

Uh oh

 

[Echidnacodefan2512]

that is just a generic glowy sparkle. unless there r reliable statements that it is made of photons, I doubt it is actual light

the fact this star does not appear in the normal sprite of use of the item implied that is use of a item and it effects is instant
(At least from what i know)


Soo it probally light

 

[Echidnacodefan2512]

Yeah, it just looks really cool. Same thing with darkners too.

I mean probally even more true ? Darkners literally have some level of light generation like how Roulxs kard do

But it think Roulxs is more Holy element if anything.

 

[AyOgUyS]

the fact this star does not appear in the normal sprite of use of the item implied that is use of a item and it effects is instant
(At least from what i know)


Soo it probally light

using this logic every single generic sparkle created through the use of an item in fiction is light. that's not our standards, we need actual statements or feats of the sparkle being actual light, not just "ooh it looks like light"

 

[Echidnacodefan2512]

using this logic every single generic sparkle created through the use of an item in fiction is light. that's not our standards, we need actual statements or feats of the sparkle being actual light, not just "ooh it looks like light"

We have ? They literally become energy for the lightners body to heal
They literally shine the same way whem we are using spells that use the soul
The whole mechanic of the soul is to produce light

Even some darkners do this too

It Sound like a normal thing in-universe too since we literally have the quote "Light of the mind" inside a dark world and whem applied to this verse would be the Soul power.

Do i have more ? Yes ! The fact they arent real food in any shape but just energy that can be literally appear inside a game.

 

[AyOgUyS]

We have ? They literally become energy for the lightners body to heal

energy=/=light

They literally shine the same way whem we are using spells that use the soul

glowing=/=light

It Sound like a normal thing in-universe too since we literally have the quote "Light of the mind" inside a dark world and whem applied to this verse would be the Soul power.

y would this refer to actual light rather than like willpower

 

[Randomuser3412]

Me when I catch a shiny key so I'm FTL

 

[Echidnacodefan2512]

energy=/=light

Yet you guys literally dont even look that system itself use Energy = light due eletrons

glowing=/=light

It not even the glow what i talking about The ******* trail left by the light object

y would this refer to actual light rather than like willpower

And what if equalize will power with natural light ? It not even impossible if we actually honest here due the element system itself where the increase synergy bettewen the element work like a wave

 

[Edutyn]

if we assume item=light, then Gerson's feat gets around 400c

 

[IDK3465]

Do you guys think that if Toby saw our profiles, he would actually, y'know, agree with them at all, or would he just call them total bs?

 

[Randomuser3412]

Undertale, yeah, probably. Deltarune... probably not

 

[Edutyn]

Do you guys think that if Toby saw our profiles, he would actually, y'know, agree with them at all, or would he just call them total bs?

On his main account? I don't think he'd say anything; from my point of view, Toby prefers to maintain a professional tone and not talk about the community at all.

On his UT/DT Lover 1225 account, however, I'd say he'd agree that UT/DT are stronger than IRL humans—to what extent, I don't know.

 

[Randomuser3412]

Toby prefers to maintain a professional tone