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NEVERNESS TO EVERNESS DISCUSSION THREAD

Mbpoops said:
Lmao??
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Okay people definitely have room to disagree with me but I am certain that design was a reference to the king in yellow

In other regards I'd honestly perfer if anomaly relams weren't treated as creation = destruction feats. Because anomalies aren't supposed to follow standard logic- and creating an anomalies relam seems to be a standard power for any anomaly that gains enough anomalie energy, the only real argument besides that I have against doing so is not doing so is more conservative and it's not completely clear currently ehat an anomlious realm is, spacial warping is so common it could be they are warping and stretching real space to make this relam and not outright creating it. And- the moonlight pawnshop would easily get the cast to solar system level with no other feats if we use it like that and I'd really rather not have every feat on the profile be anomaly relams when there actual combat never shows signs of power like that.
 
The citzen id quest confirms tageto (butchered his name..) has been in the city for several years, and elaborate on his and other like anomalys status as citizens. I've taken screen shots of the text incase it ever becomes relevant it may not but you never know
 
Anyone another interesting bit agent.luck a worker at thrle anomaly beruo became an anomaly and dosen't need to sleep anymore. From context he was a normal dog before he was an anomaly
 
The last cutscene in that quest implies mr Adler the body guard the owner and the girl with the horn were a group first found TV head, and later the blue boy and gang leader girl joined, and of course then appraiser. Interesting
 
Hey uaa anyone know how to get to the "The Never Ending Arachne" anomaly pilgrimage? Just cleared the auction quest and can't seem to figure out how to get to either the auction way point or the boss refight, anyone know what's up with that?
 
Darkmon_cns said:
Hey uaa anyone know how to get to the "The Never Ending Arachne" anomaly pilgrimage? Just cleared the auction quest and can't seem to figure out how to get to either the auction way point or the boss refight, anyone know what's up with that?
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Are you sure there isn't still some dialogs left? You need to clear the entirety of chapter 3 to unlock it
 
Darkmon_cns said:
In other regards I'd honestly perfer if anomaly relams weren't treated as creation = destruction feats.
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I mean it's not like we can just completely ignore them and moonlight pawnshop won't be solar level because we would still need to prove that the celestial bodies in his realm are real planets and not just some decoration.
 
Monosc said:
I mean it's not like we can just completely ignore them and moonlight pawnshop won't be solar level because we would still need to prove that the celestial bodies in his realm are real planets and not just some decoration.
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Also wasn't there just one single planet depicted in the sky in his realm? So it would be planetary at best if we can prove it to be real
 
Monosc said:
I mean it's not like we can just completely ignore them and moonlight pawnshop won't be solar level because we would still need to prove that the celestial bodies in his realm are real planets and not just some decoration.
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*looks at king boo and Mario painting scaling * do we?
 
Monosc said:
Also wasn't there just one single planet depicted in the sky in his realm? So it would be planetary at best if we can prove it to be real
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I am fairly sure there were star dots but i could be wrong didn't spend alot of time looking at the sky box snd don't think i can go back there. Also... judging by the cutscene, I think it's possible we don't actually fight the boss? The cutscene where the fight starts and the dogs owner comes back to calm him down seem to slip into eachother? At the very least we don't actually beat this boss in combat. But in retrospect thus may just be bad cope

anyway I don't think it's hard to make a case that an Anomley energy that consistently has far lower destructive feats then it's creation ones should be treated as a unique function of that energy which whole identity is that it defies logic, even a little bug most people can swap away with a fly swatter is able to create what I think is a pretty easy to say a small building sized place without ever becoming more physically intimidating then a small bug.
 
Darkmon_cns said:
I am fairly sure there were star dots but i could be wrong didn't spend alot of time looking at the sky box snd don't think i can go back there.
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Even if there were star dots we still need to prove that they are stars because they may very well be just some lights and not stars. We need certainty not just some guess.
Darkmon_cns said:
anyway I don't think it's hard to make a case that an Anomley energy that consistently has far lower destructive feats then it's creation ones should be treated as a unique function of that energy which whole identity is that it defies logic, even a little bug most people can swap away with a fly swatter is able to create what I think is a pretty easy to say a small building sized place without ever becoming more physically intimidating then a small bug.
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That applies to most characters that scale to creation feats.
 
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Monosc said:
That applies to literally almost every single character that scales to creation feats.
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Well--- ~~there's a reason I don't like how the wiki handles creation feats~~

But I think in this case, there maybe a case to make that the creation ablity is totally separate from there physical stats. Especially sense an anomaly's "true form" were the warping comes from isn't what the characters fight, they fight the manifestion of thr anomaly in real space- they can't actually harm the anomaly in what ever weird place there leaking into this world form, that's why you can encounter and nullify different instances of the same anomaly in the over world via the commissions system, so maybe the anomalies themselves would scale to those levels but there avatars the characters fight in real space would scale to physical feats?

There is definitely a separation between an anomaly itself and it's manafestions in the world but where exactly that line is I'm not too sure
 
Memetic anomalies are an interesting case sense physical force can't get rid of them as long as the rumor or idea they latched onto is around.
 
Darkmon_cns said:
There is definitely a separation between an anomaly itself and it's manafestions in the world but where exactly that line is I'm not too sure
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Probably. Something that also supports that is the fact that anomalies can`t be detroyed only contained or nullified but even nullification doesn`t completely annihilate it it only erases it from the human world temporarily and the anomalies can still manifest again after it
 
Darkmon_cns said:
But I think in this case, there maybe a case to make that the creation ablity is totally separate from there physical stats. Especially sense an anomaly's "true form" were the warping comes from isn't what the characters fight, they fight the manifestion of thr anomaly in real space- they can't actually harm the anomaly in what ever weird place there leaking into this world form, that's why you can encounter and nullify different instances of the same anomaly in the over world via the commissions system, so maybe the anomalies themselves would scale to those levels but there avatars the characters fight in real space would scale to physical feats?
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Yeah ig the best sollution is to just seperate the real and projected form into keys.
 
Monosc said:
Anyway does someone know if it`s recommended to pull for Hotori
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Unfortunately I don't know that stuff I'd be asking for help on it too

Now with the separation there is one point of possible contention. The dog( also called morph something) ia said to have made the rules for his space and it's also called his den. This brings up the question of ehat exactly the dog is. Was he a mundane dog this anomaly latched onto? Granting him essentially super powers and control of it's power? If this is the case what about the anomaly itself? There are several examples that implie anomalys possess some form of intelligence; tho it's hard to say if this dosen't only belong to there worldly manifestations- dose the dog ask the anomaly to change the rules how he likes? Or is he so connected to it he can direct the true form in the other world as he pleases? I feel like these statments could cast doubt on my interpretation but we also don't really know enough about the dog to say anything for sure

Just thought I'd bring that point up and my thoughts on it
 
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