Meteo interview on the Foreigner Class. Apparently the class was made for aliens and higher dimensional beings from the jump(most likely for ORT in LB7 hence Grand Foreigner) but Nasu didn’t know how to make it flow perfectly so Meteo recommended mixing it with the Lovecraftian Mythos.
It's hilarious how people are already talking about the Meteo specific statement as to how they don't operate in the framework of universal/multiversal scale, while throwing shade at VSBW and other Type Moon power scalers over fundamentally not comprehending what Meteo is trying to mean in there itself.
Unfortunately, I lost my previous Twitter account but anyways one of my friends showed me multiple responses of this interview quote.
The problem here is that if their inclusion to the FGO world was faithful to their source material, that would make them literal entities on a universal scale, too far above the standards we work with. My solution to that was having a layer of separation between us and them: a format where they can only watch us from outer space and attempt to interact by manipulating characters from our history.
Such as
Now, just in case anyone is curious about this. We literally get materials from Nasu's conception of them and you have statements akin to "Beyond this universe, higher dimensional beings are so super powerful! (BBthotep) and they out of their way to tell you that "Hey, they should descend into our plane" and to descend into our plane, they have to be beyond to begin with. And that they're from outer universes/universes beyond ours.
The actual things would have universal range (this is what universal in the quote above means by the by). And so, instead of that, it goes
"existing in another layer, separate from ours and only interacting with it from the outside to manipulate characters inside of our history" (Next statement)
And this becomes a debunk? Damn.
We do know that nobody can be universal, no matter how strong a lifeform, it has to obey the rules of the Human Order... right? Or I suppose people simply ignore all this in favor of the notion of "debunking" something while ignoring everything established beforehand. They can't descend because the Human Order blocks them. And Demeter outright tells us Machine God vessels are far too powerful for the surface texture, mind you.
It reacts to Aoko's time travel, and you think these beings can just walk free like Mr Bean in our universe with universal range, with the Human Order doing absolutely nothing save for having popcorns on a good day. Excellent debunk.
Human Order blocks the reality of the Root by filtering it under ego, and only what counts as actual True Magic of the five Magicians can bypass it. And damn, people actually think Outer Gods are gonna do something about this?
Wallahi, forgive me Nasu, for Type Moon fans choose to not engage with the verse and rely on the same old rhetorical dependency while taking things out of context as always. Mind I remind you of the Sefar example.
I think if someone sees that statement and goes "not in the scale of universal and multiversal! Type Moon entities are so dogass in power scaling haha" unironically, they're the ones having a terminal power scaling syndrome and obsession.
It's simply an act to feel better by putting down other people for being "obsessed with power scaling" or whatever fancies their boat in an act of presenting it as "insight" while it merely being their instincts usually says more about the person saying it than whatever or whomever they think they're correcting.
It isn't hard to read it as "He seeks not to directly introduce them in the world as universal entities, thus, proposes to keep their cosmic scale without that by separating them in layers/planes, only allowing them to watch us and not interact with us as they wish to" (Again, this is what it literally states after the universe statement, but as usual, people choose to ignore it
shrugs)
That is what people would usually interpret, who're well known off in Type Moon spaces, rather than "HAHAAAA, NON-UNIVERSAL" and then, in an act of self-contradiction, blame other people for engaging in Type Moon purely through a power scaling perspective lol.
Anyway, that's all my thoughts on this.
I'll drop the True Magic stuff later today or tomorrow.
