Strongest 5-D Characters on the Wiki

[Deonment]

But seriously, why is VDH that high? Didn't they lose their plot hax

I mean they still have the rest of their BS, D still has the accepted (though unapplied) all aspects NEP 2 for his "soul" (with the Sacred Ancestor having that completely) and can come back from it, so DMC and GoW can't actually do anything to them in a way that matters, and both basically have fucken absurd potency and whatnot off the back of their bullshit RE and the fact that D and the SA are in a constant stalement with eachother, while having the entirety of the other's kit

DMC also just doesn't have info type 2 apparently, they get hit over the head with the records lol

 

[RM97]

VHD can be removed since its very outdated and I'm revising the whole thing top to bottom from tiers to haxes to layers.

 

[Planck69]

I mean they still have the rest of their BS, D still has the accepted (though unapplied) all aspects NEP 2 for his "soul" (with the Sacred Ancestor having that completely) and can come back from it, so DMC and GoW can't actually do anything to them in a way that matters, and both basically have fucken absurd potency and whatnot off the back of their bullshit RE and the fact that D and the SA are in a constant stalement with eachother, while having the entirety of the other's kit

DMC also just doesn't have info type 2 apparently, they get hit over the head with the records lol

Isn't that just incon then? If not for plot then there's pretty much nothing Kratos doesn't either resist or RE against.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

I mean they still have the rest of their BS, D still has the accepted (though unapplied) all aspects NEP 2 for his "soul" (with the Sacred Ancestor having that completely) and can come back from it, so DMC and GoW can't actually do anything to them in a way that matters, and both basically have fucken absurd potency and whatnot off the back of their bullshit RE and the fact that D and the SA are in a constant stalement with eachother, while having the entirety of the other's kit

That would just force either an incon or D gets BFR to a place not even 5D range can get you out

DMC also just doesn't have info type 2 apparently, they get hit over the head with the records lol

I explained last page that info 2 doesn't do much in this case lol

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

So one of the DMC guys have NEP now
does that change anything
also looks like honkai souls are getting a cm 1 downgrade too

Nope

DMC should be with GoW anyways

 

[Mbpoops]

So one of the DMC guys have NEP now
does that change anything
also looks like honkai souls are getting a cm 1 downgrade too

CM1 downgrade will definetrly lower us unless i argue CM1 kiana but icba rn

 

[Planck69]

Without CM 1, GoW/DMC goes above Honkai.

Edit: Well, DMC can sort out the info vs concept stuff with Honkai first.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Edit: Well, DMC can sort out the info vs concept stuff with Honkai first.

Ehhhh

I laid out the reasons why Info 2 is mostly irrelevant for the discussion so it would be just another incon

GoW, DMC and Honkai would share the spot in the end

 

[Mbpoops]

12D hde strikes again... heh...

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

12D hde strikes again... heh...

wait till GoW gets 13D range and DMC gets tier 0 hax

 

[Planck69]

Oh yeah, forgot about that dimension stuff. I guess all 3 can have a spot.

 

[RoninSlayer200]

Altair (Re:Creators)

Known originally to the heroes of Re:Creators only as Military Uniform Princess, Altair is the last creation of Setsuna Shimazaki before she took her own life. While originating from a singular music video, Altair was able to break free from the yoke of her story and become independent. Because...

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hmm

Put her against chinamen.

 

[Vietthai96]

Resistance Negation (Ad-infinitum Layers)

 

[Eseseso]

Seems like a wee bit of an NLF looking at the scan but that's just me

 

[Vietthai96]

He has Abstract Existence, and then scrolling down he has Conceptual Existence

Who made this profile?

Also the Resistance Neg stuff seems familiar, sound like i evaluated it before

 

[Vietthai96]

Tarouverse Layers & Minor Ability Addition

Ability Asuka Animal Manipulation: Made all cicadas turn silent Layers Another Cosmology Ad-Infinitum Layers Resistance Negation: There are no means to resist the effects of an Another Cosmology other than to not get hit by it in the first place. Brahmastra Spear, which is a type of Another...

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Well, shit, anyway, whatever

 

[Shar122]

Sakamaki Izayoi

Sakamaki Izayoi (逆廻 十六夜; Westernized as Izayoi Sakamaki) is the main protagonist of the series "Mondaiji tachi ga Isekai Kara Kuru So Desu Yo?". Since childhood Izayoi possessed high mental capabilities and an extraordinary physical prowess which progressed into never ending boredom due to being...

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I put Altair at 2nd spot if everyone is ok with that

He's stacked, but his PP sounds iffy.

 

[Mbpoops]

Why remove his pp

 

[Deonment]

I put Altair at 2nd spot if everyone is ok with that

She isn't getting past Yang Qi lol

 

[Planck69]

Should Yang Qi even still be here? Ain't his ass like, 1-A?

 

[Deonment]

Should Yang Qi even still be here? Ain't his ass like, 1-A?

Huh, his "Low 1-C" was apparently 6D from the start lol, yeah he should get kicked off the list then (even ignoring the whole was upgraded to 1-A stuff)

 

[Robo432343]

looks like ix is gonna lose his nep stuff
i dont think ix should be on the same place as the dmc/gow guys any longer

 

[Mbpoops]

looks like ix is gonna lose his nep stuff
i dont think ix should be on the same place as the dmc/gow guys any longer

i agree put kiana cause 12D hde :3

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Sakamaki Izayoi

Sakamaki Izayoi (逆廻 十六夜; Westernized as Izayoi Sakamaki) is the main protagonist of the series "Mondaiji tachi ga Isekai Kara Kuru So Desu Yo?". Since childhood Izayoi possessed high mental capabilities and an extraordinary physical prowess which progressed into never ending boredom due to being...

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I put Altair at 2nd spot if everyone is ok with that

Mondaiji

shit... since when is the verse allowed?

Also resistance negation to what exactly? Or just every ability?


edit: pretty sure Altair mogs like 95% of the list

 

[Vietthai96]

Also resistance negation to what exactly? Or just every ability?

Resistance negation to heat resistance i guess

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Resistance negation to heat resistance i guess

That's the weirdest resistance negg ever lol

 

[Deonment]

Also resistance negation to what exactly? Or just every ability?

Considering this

Brahmastra Spear, which is a type of Another Cosmology, for example,[56] will infinitely overcome any level of resistance towards it's skill that takes action once it pierces the enemy.

Brahmastra Replica: The Brahmastra Replica's Gift of Victory works similarly to[111] Pest's Gift of Death which could use the idea to reduce concepts of weaker authorities into nothingness.[112] Brahmastra Replica seals the fate of the stabbed opponent and will pierce and break until all is waiting is a certain death. Also overrides every concept and possible reality granting victory to its wielder.[113]

Considering this, it's some degree of bullshit, and not just heat

 

[Vietthai96]

somehow the scan mostly talking about heat

 

[Planck69]

Altair feels like a playground char lol

 

[Planck69]

Since IX NEP is getting downgraded, where should i place the honkai characters?

Does this follow the same rules as the Non-Smurf ones? They're kind of only hanging on cause they incon due to being unreachable range wise.

If not then they stay where they are and Kiana becomes the example char.

 

[Planck69]

At the very least, IX and Irontomb should be replaced for examples. Fear Zeus and Ascended Athena neg diff them now.

I mean if they're just incon merchants then shouldn't they be way way down the list
and yeah its the same rules as the non smurf

I think they still beat the lower spot in hax? At worst they move to No.6.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Poor Bayonetta, the weakest of the hack n slash games and also the top 3 weakest Low 1-C in the wiki

 

[Osemere]

Considering this



Considering this, it's some degree of bullshit, and not just heat

Infinite layers of [bullshit which doesn’t make sense]

Waow

 

[Vietthai96]

Since IX NEP is getting downgraded, where should i place the honkai characters?

IX still have NEP1 and HDE from being Aeon. Also dude have passives

 

[Mbpoops]

IX still have NEP1 and HDE from being Aeon. Also dude have passives

bro hasnt heard of NEPmog has he

aeons losing their 12D hde but only going down to 11D

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

I think Anos violate Izayoi Sakamaki ngl

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

I think Anos violate Izayoi Sakamaki ngl

infinite layers of everything apparently

Anos isn't making it out

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

infinite layers of everything apparently

Anos isn't making it out

Not everything, just for [Another Cosmology] and [Brahmastra Replica].

Anyway, he has no way of affecting Graham (nor Anos' source). He also gets haxed to death by Graham and passively erased by Abernyu.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Not everything, just for [Another Cosmology] and [Brahmastra Replica].

Anyway, he has no way of affecting Graham (nor Anos' source). He also gets haxed to death by Graham and passively erased by Abernyu.

I don't know about that since

Considering this

Brahmastra Spear, which is a type of Another Cosmology, for example,[56] will infinitely overcome any level of resistance towards it's skill that takes action once it pierces the enemy.

Brahmastra Replica: The Brahmastra Replica's Gift of Victory works similarly to[111] Pest's Gift of Death which could use the idea to reduce concepts of weaker authorities into nothingness.[112] Brahmastra Replica seals the fate of the stabbed opponent and will pierce and break until all is waiting is a certain death. Also overrides every concept and possible reality granting victory to its wielder.[113]

Considering this, it's some degree of bullshit, and not just heat

^that's a thing

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

I don't know about that since


^that's a thing

Like I said, it doesnt matter since it cant affect Graham and he would have no chance to use it against Abernyu before getting passively erased.

isn't another cosmology passive with 1-C cosmology nuke?

No mention of it being passive in the profile.