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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

Yeah, the LS value itself might (I don't actually know not a calcer) be valid, but I'm not sure how you would ever scale that to anything. Like, yes, that's the value required to lift X amount, but the only thing being lifted is his arms when he swings them to activate his devil fruit. This isn't even a TK LS feat, it's just a neat fact at this point lol.
 
KingTempest said:
Am I gonna say me sending someone flying with a headbutt is lifting strength?
No.
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🙈

that would be a neck launching feat... Ayo..?
 
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DaReaperMan said:
What's the most iffy part of current LS scaling would you say? Time to downgrade it
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Yall don't ever say "KT how are you doing? How's progress? What's the next thing you wanna tackle? What's some stuff you want us to do?"
It's always
"What don't you like about the shit you implemented"
 
KingTempest said:
Yall don't ever say "KT how are you doing? How's progress? What's the next thing you wanna tackle? What's some stuff you want us to do?"
It's always
"What don't you like about the shit you implemented"
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Listen the last time I tried to touch OP seriously I got yiked at and dunked on I can't exactly contribute much--
 
DaReaperMan said:
Listen the last time I tried to touch OP seriously I got yiked at and dunked on I can't exactly contribute much--
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Just because you get pushback on something doesn't mean you shouldn't keep trying.

Nobody agreed with my LS value for shaking the planet but that doesn't mean Im giving up on calcs.
 
MonkeyOfLife said:
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that would be a neck launching feat... Ayo..?
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Execute him quickly
DaReaperMan said:
Listen the last time I tried to touch OP seriously I got yiked at and dunked on I can't exactly contribute much--
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Everyone who helps gets yelled at man you just needa connect with the group so you know what needs to be done right or wrong

Shit people knock Damage half the time and that man drops a profile redux every other month that makes powers and abilities look spectacular.

Literally everyone is capable of being useful, that goes for everyone in here, just don't act like Superman
 
I mean, It's been a few months since I've created an account and I've already provided a solution for WB's worldwide quakes and the calc for them is in the process of being approved; potentially upgrading the verse.
 
KingTempest said:
Everyone who helps gets yelled at man you just needa connect with the group so you know what needs to be done right or wrong

Shit people knock Damage half the time and that man drops a profile redux every other month that makes powers and abilities look spectacular.
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And Damage isn't just the most inconsistent worker in the universe lmfao

Like, I have a Garp sitting in a sandbox for like two years because I couldn't be ****** to find all the chapters he appeared in and got distracted by Warcraft profile #50(If I recall it was Deathwing?), so he's just sat there marinating for eons. I have multiple Starcraft profiles that are 10%-90% done that I might get around to this month or next year, it depends on my motivation. I'm not exactly someone to rely on, and assuming otherwise is just going to disappoint you.

Also uh, I'm kinda useless with other languages. And considering for anyone I'd actually do like Garp they're like 60% Vivre Card I'd be shaking MoL for translations like a Bigfoot shakes a tree, so no clue what ya want me to do.

wait, was my comment actually taken seriously? It was a joke--
 
DaReaperMan said:
Also uh, I'm kinda useless with other languages. And considering for anyone I'd actually do like Garp they're like 60% Vivre Card I'd be shaking MoL for translations like a Bigfoot shakes a tree, so no clue what ya want me to do.
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bro no matter how many time I read this, I can't seem to understated what it says 🙉 maybe add some ,? 🙈
 
EtherealCrater said:
Just because you get pushback on something doesn't mean you shouldn't keep trying.

Nobody agreed with my LS value for shaking the planet but that doesn't mean Im giving up on calcs.
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It wasn't just a push back tho 😅🙈

Can't seem to find the op tier list thread, he is must have removed that despicable thread ✊😠
 
Kachon123 said:
Do you mean this
vsbattles.com

Top strongest One Piece characters 2 (spoilers)

The last thread was a catastrophic failure and an absolute disaster that brings shame unto me. I would like to apologize to everyone on the forum for that sorry excuse of a list. As for this new list, I will not include characters that have nothing known about them. This list ranks characters on...
vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
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yes but the one before 🙉, DaReaper is safe then

Like that thread made me not just confused on how to interpret his ranking, it made me lost in how to even comment on his thread, like I might've had a minor ptsd from it ngl because it was like all the bad rankings I've seen on the internet combined into 1 massive bad ranking, and I had to believe that it was a troll thread 😶‍🌫️
 
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MonkeyOfLife said:
Like that thread made me not just confused on how to interpret his ranking, it made me lost in how to even comment on his thread, like I might've had a minor ptsd from it ngl because it was like all the bad rankings I've seen on the internet combined into 1 massive bad ranking, and I had to believe that it was a troll thread 😶‍🌫️
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It was an April Fools joke lol, look at the date
 
You know, I really wish I made a serious tier list back in the day... Especially since It still holds up till now with what I used to believe ✋🐵🤚

Maybe I can find one I made from some place 🤔

at least I have my monkey tier list that hold up to today 🙈
my-image-2.png
 
EtherealCrater said:
If the Dressrosa Meteor thread goes through, will Stefano's meteor calc be implemented since it got accepted? If it does, can the LS value of the meteors be used? Like, can those values replace the LS values used from here?
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That depend if i get some other calc experts to evaluate my calc and conferm which end to use.

Fwflygon said:
Likely, but post time skip would have to be majorly restructured.
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Yeah, assuming my calc gets accepted, it would definitely affect the current Post Timeskip scaling, since I do think this feat would scale to all of Doflamingo’s strings in general and not just the Birdcage, at least in terms of durability.

It can be argued that the strings used to make the Birdcage are no different from the ones he uses for his other techniques, like Parasite and Spider Web, which would make them equally durable. The same should apply to his Awakening, which logically ought to have even higher stats overall. This is important because, in Dressrosa, the only character who ever managed to physically break those strings was Boundman Luffy just by transforming, a feat that no one else managed to achieve.

Someone might try to counter this by bringing up Black Knight, where even fodder like Abdullah and Jeet could damage the clone. However, I would argue that this technique is supposed to be like that, since it is meant to serve as a diversion and trick the opponent into believing they were fighting the real Doffy rather than a clone. This is also backed up by the fact that Doffy can alter the physical properties of his strings with techniques like Overheat, meaning it is more than possible that he can make the strings less durable when necessary.

After all, we see that Gear 2 Jet Gatling could shatter the entire thing, yet we know that Doffy himself is physically stronger than Gear 2 Luffy, let alone his strings, which, until Boundman, were shown to be impossible to shatter through brute force. And when Boundman did break those strings Doffy was clearly shocked by the event, despite the fact that he see his strings getting cut by Kyros, which further prove my point as it mean that the Black Knight its suppost to be less durable compare to stuff like Parasite and Spider Web.

Even in Marineford, we see that his strings were strong enough to physically halt Jozu and stop him from attacking Crocodile, and Jozu never actually managed to free himself, at least onscreen. So either Doffy released him later, or Jozu did eventually free himself, but only with much more effort. And this is not much of an outlier: the meteor feat in question was performed by an Admiral, and while Issho was holding back, it is still noteworthy, since being able to withstand non named attacks from Top Tiers is something only Top Commanders such as Marco, Ace, Vista, and Jozu ever managed to achieve at Marineford.

Basically to brief recap Boundman Luffy > Doflamingo's Strings Durability > Issho's Meteors as well as be >= Jozu >= Admirals and Mihawk's non named attacks = Issho's Meteors = At least 375 Petatons (the yield of the bigger meteor since its was a barrage of meteors rather than a single one).

Thought it would probably requid another CRT and see if we have enough people who agree with this take.
 
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Jropzone1 said:
He can't do that because he doesn't have as much power as Kid. His stamina should not be significantly different than Kid's, or everyone else on the rooftop. Characters like Usopp and Nami have far higher stamina, which makes no sense.
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The last statement is fair but there's still no reason to put his stamina on the level of Kidd's. He simply didn't fight for nearly as long as Kidd or anyone else on the rooftop did.
 
DaMonkeMan said:
The last statement is fair but there's still no reason to put his stamina on the level of Kidd's. He simply didn't fight for nearly as long as Kidd or anyone else on the rooftop did.
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I don't really think that's good enough of a disqualifier for Superhuman stamina considering pretty much everyone Killer fought alongside is WELL above the baseline requirements for Superhuman. Didn't Killer also have to fight on the way to the rooftop? The fight to the rooftop + rooftop fight + fight against Hawkins is most certainly Superhuman.
 
Recovery rate isn’t stamina. If it isn’t energy exertion or pain & injury tolerance, then it isn’t stamina. Usopp and Nami are that high because of their immense pain and injury tolerance, and Killer has no feats within that caliber, as far as i can recall.

Briefly fighting someone that’s superhuman doesn’t make you superhuman either, we’re not chainscaling this shit.

btw i’ve edited his stamina to Athletic since there’s nothing like Above Average stamina.
 
Killer having anything less than Peak Human is ridiculous, but he deserves Superhuman stamina.

Killer fights his way through Onigashima to the rooftop, fights against Big Mom and Napoleon, taking a Indra in the process, takes a Fulgora not too long after and gets sent flying a good distance, fights against Hawkins, taking several hits to the point he is coughing up blood, lands an attack on Hawkins, two named attacks on the Straw Man and continues to fight for his life and running around Onigashima until the end of the raid. Not to mention the Onigashima raid likely lasts several hours, something that an Athletic Human is simply incapable of doing. MMA fights last for less than an hour and the fighters are exhausted by the end.

No person less than Peak Human is capable of all this.
 
EtherealCrater said:
I don't really think that's good enough of a disqualifier for Superhuman stamina considering pretty much everyone Killer fought alongside is WELL above the baseline requirements for Superhuman. Didn't Killer also have to fight on the way to the rooftop? The fight to the rooftop + rooftop fight + fight against Hawkins is most certainly Superhuman.
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I'm just saying he doesn't have as much stamina as Kidd since I saw someone say that he did. That was all I cared about
 
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