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One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph
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DaMonkeMan
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I can only see this happening if he joins Cross Guild, although that's pretty likely imo. He has to be somewhat important since his fruit is way too good for Blackbeard to just keep him alive for no reason. Wonder if he knows how to read poneglyphs or has info on Pluton (since he lived in Wano for years).Didn't Moria escape from Blackbeard's prison some time ago? It think there will be some focus on him and his backstory later at an appropriate time.
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the appropriate time should've been in the arc where he was raised when his backstory revolves around wano.Didn't Moria escape from Blackbeard's prison some time ago? It think there will be some focus on him and his backstory later at an appropriate time.
this is like talking about wapol in the final war. it makes no sense
Yes.
DaMonkeMan
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Ant does have a point, you can't really do it in Thriller Bark as you don't want to reveal too much about Kaido or Wano before the arc actually happens, and you can't do it in Wano as Moria wasn't even on Wano at that time and had no real effect on the events taking place there so a backstory for him happening in the actual arc would be a big non sequitur.
It's weird, but we kind of have to wait this long for Moria to get his flashback. Not that he absolutely needs it since he's already a pretty great villain without it.
It's weird, but we kind of have to wait this long for Moria to get his flashback. Not that he absolutely needs it since he's already a pretty great villain without it.
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That's dumb
Also @MonkeyOfLife do you have a site or a collection of renders for One Piece characters? I'm about to make a shit ton of profiles and you're usually the best guy for the job
Also @MonkeyOfLife do you have a site or a collection of renders for One Piece characters? I'm about to make a shit ton of profiles and you're usually the best guy for the job
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I have both
with both manga and anime, even some from games 
I'm assuming you mean mostly manga ones tho
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Yes please (fye)I have both
I'm assuming you mean mostly manga ones tho
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I agree with KT on this. It's worse with more context, when I was looking into the timeline Oden died 20 years before Wano. But he danced for five years after returning. Moria's fight with Kaido that got his crew killed occurred 23 years before Wano. While it would've been awesome to see Oden interact with Moria, it wouldn't derail anything to include a few lines of dialogue about Moria's fight with Kaido. It's not like no one in Wano knew Moria fought Kaido, since they gave him a shrine.
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Fair.
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We need the Wapol backstory in the final war
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#RespectWapol
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Don krieg vs The Engineer | [2-0-0]
Speed is Equalized Both start 10 meters away from each other The engineer is 8-A SBA for the rest East Blue's strongest Merchant: Fwflygon, Kachon123 Superman's Flyswatter: Incon:
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Pretty sure yeah. Also say my GOAT’s name correctly next time.
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Chad vs Chopper | [0-1-0]
Speed equalized TYBW chad is used Egghead chopper is used Chopper starts with monster point Chad has Prior knowledge Both start 30 meters away from each other Fight takes place in the human world A Bum: Luffy's last resort for food: Kachon123 Incon:
IbukiDoujisGiantTail
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Update, have everything sourced and linked here, just need to pretty it up a bit. I'm open to suggestions!
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:IbukiDoujisGiantTail/Devil_Fruits_(Sandbox)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:IbukiDoujisGiantTail/Devil_Fruits_(Sandbox)
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About this
Devil fruit users feeling the affects of the water is not the same as them being powerless, so you should change it to a more accurate explanation of the weakness
half and above is where they start becoming powerless, as stated in the sbs as well
Haki solidifies the elemental body, to where it affects their true body ("forcing their true bodies to solidify" doesn't make much sense and makes it confusing)
Could also use this as a reference here
Also here, you should expand on the fact that they can train their devil fruit to "level up" their abilities. you can read more about devil fruits here
Good job tho
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Stefano4444
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Unsure about the Devil Fruit Available Abilities of every devil fruits since the specific powers will be mention in the profile, Logia and Zoan Physiologies its fine thought since those users do actually share a standard set of abilities.
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IbukiDoujisGiantTail
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Thanks! Alright I redid the wording a bit more to make it clearer in these areas, and I also added the provided sourcesAbout this
Devil fruit users feeling the affects of the water is not the same as them being powerless, so you should change it to a more accurate explanation of the weakness
half and above is where they start becoming powerless, as stated in the sbs as well
Haki solidifies the elemental body, to where it affects their true body ("forcing their true bodies to solidify" doesn't make much sense and makes it confusing)
Could also use this as a reference here
Also here, you should expand on the fact that they can train their devil fruit to "level up" their abilities. you can read more about devil fruits here
Good job tho
For the Devil Fruits page I though it'd be valid to index the abilities Devil Fruits have been shown to grant, I also included the list of individual Devil Fruits that say what those specifically do and link them to the individual characters.
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Yee ngl, the Devil Fruit available abilities would be way too hard to understand, add, or revise
For example the Warp Warp Fruit's teleportation is not the same as the teleportation from Law, making it hard to understand and a little meaningless since it's already explained in their profile. It also makes the page quite cluttered
The list of devil fruits and their users seems fine tho, preferably adding a scroll like here would make it look better and more organized
I hate how ungrammerly I type but at the same time if I type it more grammer correctly, I lose the me and that's worse
For example the Warp Warp Fruit's teleportation is not the same as the teleportation from Law, making it hard to understand and a little meaningless since it's already explained in their profile. It also makes the page quite cluttered
The list of devil fruits and their users seems fine tho, preferably adding a scroll like here would make it look better and more organized
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I'd put the fruits and their users first then the full haxlist in another tabber or section of the page.Yee ngl, the Devil Fruit available abilities would be way too hard to understand, add, or revise
For example the Warp Warp Fruit's teleportation is not the same as the teleportation from Law, making it hard to understand and a little meaningless since it's already explained in their profile. It also makes the page quite cluttered
The list of devil fruits and their users seems fine tho, preferably adding a scroll like here would make it look better and more organized
I hate how ungrammerly I type but at the same time if I type it more grammer correctly, I lose the me and that's worse
IbukiDoujisGiantTail
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The thing is that's precisely why I did the general list of hax abilities and then the list of users as opposed to just listing out the abilities on its own, because there's a good chunk of Devil Fruits with overlap, and I think it'd look messy to have "fruit 1: hax 1, 2 , 3, etc" "fruit 2: hax, 1, 2, 4, etc" "fruit 3, hax 2, 4, 5, etc" which'd lead to listing out the same ability a bunch of times with slight variations or just have an overall redundant page of trying to fit a bunch of character profiles-lite into a single page (esp when there's a good chunk of fruits and abilities that I found don't have profiles on here at all), so I figured it'd make more sense to have:Yee ngl, the Devil Fruit available abilities would be way too hard to understand, add, or revise
For example the Warp Warp Fruit's teleportation is not the same as the teleportation from Law, making it hard to understand and a little meaningless since it's already explained in their profile. It also makes the page quite cluttered
The list of devil fruits and their users seems fine tho, preferably adding a scroll like here would make it look better and more organized
I hate how ungrammerly I type but at the same time if I type it more grammer correctly, I lose the me and that's worse
1: Here's a general list of abilities that Devil Fruits have been shown to grant in some way
2: Here's the list of individual Devil Fruits, their function, and a link to the user page for more individual detail
~~well you see I'm new to html editing so pls wait warmly for me to pretty up the page a bit~~
Well I did do that lol, just "available abilities" first and then the list of users right next to it. I have them separate by fruit type so it's not all mixed up together since the fruits function differently by type. I figure having the hax abilities front and center first is what people would generally look for when entering the Devil Fruits page to know what kinds of abilities Devil Fruits have been shown to give
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The problem of having to regularly evaluate, revise and more still exists... It'll just cause unnecessary work for very little gain, especially when their user's profile page is linked already and explains the actual abilities
The list of devil fruits already gives you that, without the unneeded clutter and is also way easier to understand or read. You could add ability links for the DF list but a spam of abilities just looks way to unprofessional, cluttered and unneeded
Those get added whenever the characters themselves are added, otherwise their in general function of their ability can be added in the meantime on the list
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sanji every daycurrently voted for Luffy, Zoro, Kuma and Boa
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sanji every day
but I'll stay strong against his annoying fanbase 
(not saying you annoying tho, most sanji fans are unfairly biased and take things too far) it's 
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Sanji is a genuinely decent, heroic, and chivalrous person, but his cartoonishly extreme simping for women is getting annoying. The Netflix version turned a lot more likeable due to that his overly submissive overaffection for women was greatly toned down.
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No he dislikes him for different reasons, he's just emphasizing it because of the poll
Edit: Looked at the wrong message, i thought u were responding to Ant not MOL. Fair nuff
Edit: Looked at the wrong message, i thought u were responding to Ant not MOL. Fair nuff
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I mean i just disagree on it being unneeded clutter. I can clean it up/put them on bullet points to be more readable but I figure having a general overview of abilities Devil Fruits can grant would be useful here. Instead of having to link on each individual fruit user the various abilities one can grant or having to relink something like "Organic Manipulation" on like 10 different descriptions, it could just be on the shorthand list of hax abilities and then the specification is in the next list of the individual fruits/users
Again, that's why I want to have them on here, especially when there's certain characters that I don't foresee someone making a page for at any point be it an older or newer character
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Yeah, I was responding to MOL. I see from a lot of people too, not even just One Piece. For some reason they don't want to say they dislike something so they say things like "nah I just don't like the fans." It's very weird.
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nothing to do with someone voting him in the character poll, you didn't read what I said carefully. That's all. The same reason there's annoying luffy fans, there is for sanji... Sanjis fanbase however has started to be way moreYou dislike Sanji because a Sanji fan votes him in the... favorite character poll...? We've reached an all-time low as a societystop making excuses and just say you don't like the character. Pinning this on his fans is a new type of pathetic.
It's the same reason why I'm so unmotivated to watch my hero as well.
The thing is with me is that I actually do like Sanji, not the person that his fans are making him out to be...
Like the whole toei thing is so annoying and overdone, they'll nitpick the smallest thing and want it to become something that's entirely focused on Sanji while legit not caring about anything else and the overall product... I'm talking about those people
Wait... You believe I, the person who speaks truth would dare to not say the truth!!
, I legit like everything about Sanji tho... Even his simping (not the added uncharacteristics behaviors in filler however). Sanji fans themselves even complain about those pervy behaviors of him. There's a difference with the character and their fans, and for me their constant spam is affecting my view of Sanji (probably also because I haven't watch op in a very long time)
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I mean you can disagree... But I wouldn't be surprised if people forgot about it, didn't correctly revise it, and then became outdated again for years, as the current DF page already is, it seems unwise to have a spam of abilities that will continue changing, but that's what I believe
Like I can see it being all organized and even explained well and everything... sure, but I cannot see the overall benefit or people continuously revising that section
And then about the non profile ones, just having a general description of their devil fruit's ability until an in depth explanation of their abilities is provided through characters whenever they're on the wiki. Like for example, let's say Luffy reality warps and its byproduct makes light manipulation... Is that the ability of the devil fruit or the ability of the character? And what if it's also a different light manipulation from Kizaru's light manipulation... That is why I view it as unnecessary, the devil fruit ability itself and the abilities that the character is able to utilize/do based on their DF are different. But you do you however, it's your work, just giving advice
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Sorry, I don't mean to make it sound like im trying to argue, I really do appreciate the feedback in trying to make the page as clear as possible
It's just that I don't think it's going to be a continuously revised section? Like if the next chapter introduces 5 new Devil Fruit users and fully explained their abilities, they could just easily be added to the list and that'll be that, nothing prior will need to be changed since the legwork will already be done there. Abilities that aren't fully explained in canon (like Vasco Shot's Glug-Glug Fruit) are already things i haven't included.
I also get what you mean by ability overlaps or abilities not being the same between fruits despite falling under the same hax ability, but I think the general list of hax abilities is still useful because it's meant to just be abilities at a glance, which is why they're right next to the actual users list for more specifics on individual fruits. The page is meant to be about Devil Fruits specifically so I think the page should at least have a section about the powers that Devil Fruits give as opposed to solely just being the list of users.
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Shouldn't Final Saga Base Luffy be up to ~3 Zettatons? His ACoC value is 1.5 Zettatons but that seems to only be with a single limb and Bazooka doubles that value. Even the scan linked shows Luffy using a single punch.
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no need to say sorry, if you disagree, it's fine
Well, for example the book book fruit from Mont d'or has illusion creation even tho his ability is actually more perception manipulation, and then WB didn't used to have spatial manipulation.. Things like that, but otherwise it'll be a somewhat continuous revised section, with more info we get and understand about devil fruit abilities.
Yee I mean I'm fine with that and think that's good, the only problem being people revising or fully understanding it... But I guess we can try it if you think it's necessary
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I’m going to vote on the character poll later, I think it’s interesting hearing from other fans about their least/most favorite characters.
I get the frustration about certain Straw Hats, because while there isn’t anyone in the main cast I actively dislike, I feel like some of them haven’t gotten enough shine since Post Timeskip.
On the current crew, I think Usopp is my least favorite. Not enough to say I don’t like the character anymore, but he has been more disappointing than I hope for a while now.
I wouldn’t expect the non Luffy, Zoro, Sanji, & Jimbei crew to do as much of the fighting, but they still have a lot of moments to shine. Like Nami refusing to accept Luffy's defeat from Kaido, was a great moment even though she obviously stood no chance. Usopp has had his moments, but it feels like he’s been pushed into the background.
I get the frustration about certain Straw Hats, because while there isn’t anyone in the main cast I actively dislike, I feel like some of them haven’t gotten enough shine since Post Timeskip.
On the current crew, I think Usopp is my least favorite. Not enough to say I don’t like the character anymore, but he has been more disappointing than I hope for a while now.
I wouldn’t expect the non Luffy, Zoro, Sanji, & Jimbei crew to do as much of the fighting, but they still have a lot of moments to shine. Like Nami refusing to accept Luffy's defeat from Kaido, was a great moment even though she obviously stood no chance. Usopp has had his moments, but it feels like he’s been pushed into the background.
