One Piece General Discussion: Elbaph

[Kaydee1648]

Actually comical lmao. Point above outlines most of what I wanted to say however you can't honestly sit here and say fighting for several hours during onigashima having multiple fights along the way and say athletic. and there's plenty of pain and injury tolerance in the examples given where he coughs up blood but still fights. Remove the recovery part from the profile if it's not stamina then.

Um so, lemme make this clearer: I’m not objecting to the notion, neither am I supporting the notion that he’s superhuman. I’m just replying to points like, “Oh look, Usopp and Nami are superhuman, so anyone stronger must be too,” “He fought a superhuman, so he must be superhuman too,” or “He healed faster, so he’s superhuman.”

I don’t remember much from Wano; it’s been dead long since I read it, and I don’t follow the anime. If Killer has better feats in the manga that would warrant a higher rating, cool, I’m not against that. If he fought for hours without rest, I can add that as Peak Human to the profile since it’s self evident, that is if someone links the scan of course.

and there's plenty of pain and injury tolerance in the examples given where he coughs up blood but still fights

this is not even-

 

[Jropzone1]

this is not even-

Stamina is the measure of a character's ability to remain active, exert themselves for long periods of time, and power through harsh circumstances.

Is that not powering through harsh circumstances?

 

[Jropzone1]

Anyways I'll try to get more scans when I have time if anyone else can that'd be great

 

[Jropzone1]

I'm just saying he doesn't have as much stamina as Kidd since I saw someone say that he did. That was all I cared about

Honestly you can think kidd can have higher stamina and still put Killer with superhuman stamina.

 

[EtherealCrater]

Weevil's profile hasnt been properly updated in over two years. Thats longer than Burgess' profile outdatedness.

We're definitely gonna need a large scale thread after the earthquake calcs are done to update everyone.

 

[KingTempest]

Because that lame bastard hasn't done anything in the series

 

[EtherealCrater]

Because that lame bastard hasn't done anything in the series

He may be a fraud and a bum but he's a fraud and a bum with scaling, damn it!

 

[Damage3245]

He may be a fraud and a bum but he's a fraud and a bum with scaling, damn it!

One line of scaling and one lost fight against anyone of importance.

 

[KingTempest]

One line of scaling to the strongest mf in the series

 

[Kaydee1648]

Petition to delete Weevil’s profile

 

[EtherealCrater]

One line of scaling to the strongest mf in the series

Chill it with the Imuphobic remarks.

#ImuTop1 #StrongestInTheWorld

 

[KingTempest]

Petition to delete Weevil’s profile

Sign in this thread by saying
"WeevilK"

 

[EtherealCrater]

Petition to delete Weevil’s profile

I don't think so. Maybe if the series was over then at this point his profile would be filled with too much speculation. If by EOS Weevil hasn't done shit, then yeah, delete it but he still has a chance to come back and get REAL scaling and feats.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Sign in this thread by saying
"WeevilK"

WeevilK

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Recovery rate isn’t stamina. If it isn’t energy exertion or pain & injury tolerance, then it isn’t stamina. Usopp and Nami are that high because of their immense pain and injury tolerance, and Killer has no feats within that caliber, as far as i can recall.

Briefly fighting someone that’s superhuman doesn’t make you superhuman either, we’re not chainscaling this shit.

btw i’ve edited his stamina to Athletic since there’s nothing like Above Average stamina.

If a person with superhuman stamina has his stamina disturbed from something, Killer keeping up with those same disturbances would make him relative

I don't know if such scans exist tho

 

[Stefano4444]

We're definitely gonna need a large scale thread after the earthquake calcs are done to update everyone.

Not only apply the calc but also re-determite who genuinely downscale/scale/upscale from it, as the current scaling need to be revisioned.

 

[EtherealCrater]

Not only apply the calc but also re-determite who genuinely downscale/scale/upscale from it, as the current scaling need to be revisioned.

I agree. Some characters might get downgraded, probably Chopper. Some might get upgraded, I personally think Prime Roger/Garp should be scaled higher than they currently are.

 

[DaReaperMan]

I think that we should nerf the god-tiers back to 7-A. No reason at all.

I miss having actual verses in 7-A beyond WoW

 

[Stefano4444]

I agree. Some characters might get downgraded, probably Chopper.

Definitely Chopper.

Some might get upgraded, I personally think Prime Roger/Garp should be scaled higher than they currently are.

That may depend on how many of us are willing to be generous rather than conservative when it comes to upscaling.

Personally, to make things easier, we should establish four different categories and then place each character in the one that fits them best.

• Those who definitely scale to Whitebeard’s world-shaking | Small Planet level (>5.307 Zettatons)

Examples: Old Whitebeard.

• Those who definitely downscale from Whitebeard’s world-shaking power | Small Planet level (>433 Exatons to ~5.307 Zettatons)

Examples: Base Kaido.

• Those who definitely upscale above Whitebeard’s world-shaking power | At least Small Planet level (>>5.307 Zettatons)

Examples: Imu.

• Those who possibly downscale from Whitebeard’s world-shaking power | # (whatever alternative tier as baseline), possibly Small Planet level (~433 Exatons)

Examples: Ace.

 

[EtherealCrater]

I think I might've fixed an old calc here. Thoughts?

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

I think I might've fixed an old calc here. Thoughts?

Here's a good image that you can use, shows more of the panel

 

[KingTempest]

I think I might've fixed an old calc here. Thoughts?

calc ap

 

[EtherealCrater]

calc ap

Alright, I updated it.

 

[EtherealCrater]

Here's a good image that you can use, shows more of the panel

Does it? It doesn't seem to show more but I got mine from TCB.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Does it? It doesn't seem to show more but I got mine from TCB.

Never use tcb, though can you show me that scan? Every other “official” scan doesn’t show much besides the one I just shared

 

[EtherealCrater]

Never use tcb, though can you show me that scan? Every other “official” scan doesn’t show much besides the one I just shared

Heres the chapter. I just tested the new scan and it gives a slightly higher number but that could also just be slight differences due to human error.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Heres the chapter.

Oh… well that’s basically the same one I just shared

I just tested the new scan and it gives a slightly higher number but that could also just be slight differences due to human error.

I believe some panels are like cut out and stuff, which is why there could be differences, otherwise it could be a pixel scaling errors as you said

 

[EtherealCrater]

Oh… well that’s basically the same one I just shared

I believe some panels are like cut out and stuff, which is why there could be differences, otherwise it could be a pixel scaling errors as you said

That sucks. I didn't know that, I'll try to make sure the panels are consistent across multiple sources at the very least since I dont have a VIZ subscription.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

That sucks. I didn't know that, I'll try to make sure the panels are consistent across multiple sources at the very least since I dont have a VIZ subscription.

You can access them for free (on the website where weebs would go to centrally idk)

But even viz volumes also don’t show the full panels so sometimes the raw colored manga shows more for vertical page while viz shows either more horizontally or vertically… With Chinese versions showing the most horizontally

But the official Thailand version shows the most in all directions it seems (which I have limited access to) (discounting the RAW RAW pages/panels)

 

[KingTempest]

You can access them for free (on the website where weebs would go to centrally idk)

But even viz volumes also don’t show the full panels so sometimes the raw colored manga shows more for vertical page while viz shows either more horizontally or vertically… With Chinese versions showing the most horizontally

But the official Thailand version shows the most in all directions it seems (which I have limited access to) (discounting the RAW RAW pages/panels)

check discord i sent u sum

 

[Hasty12345]

You don't send me stuff on discord

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

check discord i sent u sum

Me every time KT calls for me

 

[KingTempest]

You don't send me stuff on discord

I don't even have your discord

 

[Hasty12345]

I don't even have your discord

Makes sense then

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Makes sense then

Ggs

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Because that lame bastard hasn't done anything in the series

He pushed Aramaki to extreme diff and cracked his black blade. Put some respect on his name

 

[EtherealCrater]

Why is Rooftop Gear 3rd Luffy not Moon level? We saw what FEotS Gear 4 did to Kaido which was basically nothing. Rooftop Gear 3rd actually had Kaido admitting to himself he was damaged after he coughed up blood.

 

[KingTempest]

Why is Rooftop Gear 3rd Luffy not Moon level? We saw what FEotS Gear 4 did to Kaido which was basically nothing. Rooftop Gear 3rd actually had Kaido admitting to himself he was damaged after he coughed up blood.

durability negation + it's was g2nd + g3rd + durability negation + yeah + durability negation

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Why is Rooftop Gear 3rd Luffy not Moon level? We saw what FEotS Gear 4 did to Kaido which was basically nothing. Rooftop Gear 3rd actually had Kaido admitting to himself he was damaged after he coughed up blood.

Why is your name EtherealCrater when Ethereal stuff wouldn’t leave a crater?

 

[EtherealCrater]

Why is your name EtherealCrater when Ethereal stuff wouldn’t leave a crater?

It used to be EtherealVoid long ago but I lost the account and when I made a new one I just used what came to mind, and from then on I just use Crater.