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Granblue Fantasy Discussion thread 3

So I was writing a blog explanation of Providence, Natural Laws, and God's will in Granblu,e and I encountered this
Hm, the boundary between life and death must be very loose without Kamuzumi to handle things...
In any case, I couldn't be happier to learn that today is a free-for-all for pranks and candy raids!
But zombies are undead that move about with decayed bodies... They manifested when Kamuzumi was lost to the Sky Realm.
So Kamizumi/Nectar Wedge isn't really life and Death
but rather the Boundary between it

Doesn't this basically mean Nectar has Boundary manipulation like Touhou

I guess this also explains why dualities don't work as intended in granblue
 
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So layers is basically
Baseline ( everyone has innate resistance)
Veil/ immune ( functionally the same but veil is a one times why immune takes turn)
100. Debuff res.( Abilities that gets bypassed with veil/immune can still be resisted with debuff res up )
Godsight ( can nuke through any resistance)

Omnipotent/captain/ Phoenix will get 5 layers? Since Phoenix basically exists above concept of magic and at the same time resist abilities from star and sky God except the omnipotent and Captain (cope)

Blue will? 6 layer?

I know we discussed this before but I don't remember what page
 
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Omnipotent/captain/ Phoenix will get 5 layers? Since Phoenix basically exists above concept of magic and at the same time resist abilities from star and sky God except the omnipotent and Captain
This is possible because of captain vs antigonelos where captain with omnipotent power ( IT'S NOT) resisted all of his abilities
 
So layers is basically
Baseline ( everyone has innate resistance)
Veil/ immune ( functionally the same but veil is a one times why immune takes turn)
100. Debuff res.( Abilities that gets bypassed with veil/immune can still be resisted with debuff res up )
Godsight ( can nuke through any resistance)

Omnipotent/captain/ Phoenix will get 5 layers? Since Phoenix basically exists above concept of magic and at the same time resist abilities from star and sky God except the omnipotent and Captain (cope)

Blue will? 6 layer?

I know we discussed this before but I don't remember what page
baseline innate resistance
Veil/immune is 1 layer
100%-150% debuff resist 2nd layer
GodSight 3rd Layer

idk about Captain and Omnipotent/phoenix having layers. theirs seems to be just Hax potency, seeing they are all 1-A
Blue will, I created a profile which has metaphysical immunity for being undefined and transcending those that could define them
This is possible because of captain vs antigonelos where captain with omnipotent power ( IT'S NOT) resisted all of his abilities
Well, if we assume Sky-God reflecting improvement.
There's still nothing able to resist Godsight. maybe himself, which would be 4th
then Omnipotent being 5th for unsurpassable (but this seems more authoritative)
Antigonelos would just be 4th layer and getting neg by Omnipotent powers converging
 
Well, if we assume Sky-God reflecting improvement.
There's still nothing able to resist Godsight. maybe himself, which would be 4th
then Omnipotent being 5th for unsurpassable (but this seems more authoritative)
Antigonelos would just be 4th layer and getting neg by Omnipotent powers converging
Improvement just hax potency.
Should also grant, yes, even if it's authoritative since astralia powers can still get resisted
Antigonelos still 3rd with godsight since we know it's not only limited to sky God, it has different names but works the same.
Omnipotent, Phoenix and Captain 4 layers
Omnipotent/captain/ Phoenix will get 5 layers? Since Phoenix basically exists above concept of magic and at the same time resist abilities from star and sky God except the omnipotent and Captain (cope)

Blue will? 6 layer?
Typo, I meant 4 and 5 not 5 and 6, counted baseline
 
yeah i guess that's fine
but it would be for resistance to abilities that isn't a big deal

so concept hax plot info would have different layers since they don't necessarily exist within the buff and debuff systems

and afaik debuff and buff systems are effect based resistance rather than cause based
 
Plot baseline
Concept should still have the same layers because of how class skills works and it's actually different timelines version of MC or at least 3 layers since sky and star God can resist boundary powers to destroy concepts and also affect those < omnipotent who can resist their abilities not just only debuff because of how godsight works and divine power < captain with blue will 🥀

Willpower grants 3 layers but only those with stronger willpower, tho it doesn't include CM
 
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So i talked with some people
Type 1 Concept for primal beast is fine
since being a subcategory of a Type 1 concept is still Type 1 concept.
(subcategories in a sense that Concept in Granblue have a web of connections where the Concept of fire can have a subset like, Burning, Purging, Purifying, Erasing. sometimes even rebirth since it also covers myths like Apocalyptic fire which can rebirth)

Six Dragons and wedges are like the main categories for these while primal beast are specific categories they respectively govern
 
I mean weren't they already?
Thy are sub set but still independent from their concept like Raphael who can give his role to the wind even tho he's meant to govern wind
So yeah, it's just stronger or more like who has more control over the concept
 
I mean weren't they already?
Thy are sub set but still independent from their concept like Raphael who can give his role to the wind even tho he's meant to govern wind
So yeah, it's just stronger or more like who has more control over the concept
nah wasn't accepted yet it is only generally accepted as Type 2 concept

only for Primarch and higher have concept type 2-1 manip
 
Meh
Anyhow don't be a lazy bum and instead talk about wedges ( primarch MID) and their outdated page
they get included in the type 1 concept CRt because they are the main categories
meaning Wilnas being fire gains all abilities fire has
Like Shiva's Fire
Michael's Fire
Fire as life
Fire for purifying etc
 
Jedi, am I dedass rn 🥀💔
Second time mistakenly posting a CRT since it's being done from phone I have little space, it isn't even half complete since I still have other things to add like wedges extra abilities 😒

 
And I don't feel like deleting it since it would be more work again
Guess I will just leave it there and start bumping after tier CRT gets accepted
 
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