The main thing is you need to fight at least a few other Nightlords before facing them, and as expeditions continue the nightfarers do canonically grow stronger with the aid of things like relics and remembrance artifacts.
The 7 lesser Nightlords would probably scale to higher than the demigods, so somewhere in or above 7-A, though they could get some additional calcs with their skybox change during their fight and some of them causing map-wide storms passively, heck Caligo makes a blizzard that shoots ice meteors that engulfs all of limveld while SLEEPING
I see, as for Heolstor, is he going to have any other abilities added?
I believe most of his abilities are already on there, but Scarlet Rot should probably be added after the recent update which allows him to use it.
Shouldn't we remove type 5 immortality from their profiles then?
Do you have the text, please?
Shouldn't the Elden Beast also be High 3-A to Low 2-C then?
I think someone talked about this in a vs matchup, but having Type 5 immortality doesn't stop you from being incapacitated, even though you can't be killed. The Demigods are basically not bound by traditional death, but can still be defeated and basically be put out of commission.
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Not exactly. The Elden Beast is weird because not only is its high end AP possibly just ED, it is also hindered by the fact it has been shattered. I was working on a scaling blog, but to be honest it lowkey has a couple of keys based on this alone.
Yes I know but if I remember correctly there are statements that prove that some demigods are killed, notably Radahn since the goal of the festival is precisely to give him a honorable death.
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Death does still exist in Elden Ring. However, it isn't true death like how we would describe it. Death, especially in regards to those who retain the values of the Golden Order (like Radahn), is based on returning to the Erdtree, likely to be resurrected. Things still "die", but there is no permanent death in the Lands Between without the Rune of Death.
Same sort of thing. Malenia did wish to kill Radahn for Miquella, but if he were to die in a true form, his soul would not be accessible. Godwyn is a good example of a case where retrieving a person's soul is impossible, since his was permanently killed by a fraction of the rune of Death's power during the night of the black knives.
Yeah, so I think we should remove type 1 and 5 immortality from demigods.
most people I talk to about ER scaling don’t use the star stuff, it’s really just there as a possibility, not as the main scaling option. I Remember the first time I read the profiles they were “possibly High 4-C”, guess they were changed at some point
I'm just talking about the calculation itself, not the scaling.
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Godwyn was reborn through the Cursemark of death into a Greater Rune. So for true reincarnation you require death in both body and soul.
Sorry, I've literally been without power for several days now, but no they all definitely still need deserve both types of immortality. Not only are they not threatened by old age, but they are ultimately removed from the concept of dying truly. Death under the Golden Order is a convoluted process of resurrection, and thus despite its length it can not truly die. Granted, Type 4 does go along with it, but to deny that the demigods don't follow standard death and are immortal in a way is just wrong.
I have a calc for this that simply hasn't been published. It assumes a count of stars similar to how we calculate making a starry sky, although it is still only High 4-C.
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Probably. Most of Consort Radahn's abilities are just enhanced versions of powers Miquella already had, such as light manip. So it's basically certain anything consort Radahn can do, Miquella can do as well.
So the matches with PCR is literally 2v1 kekw
So they die without really dying? What is the evidence for that?
We should definitely use this instead.
Well, like we know, the Rune of Death governs all true death in the Lands Between, and according to Miyazaki its removal stopped the fated deaths of the demigods. We know from the Dung Eater as well that souls under the Golden Order resurrect. This is why he defiled corpses with the seedbed curse, and eventually sought to implement the Fell Curse into the Elden Ring, because those who have died would then resurrect as omen. The process by which souls are resurrected in facilitated in a variety of ways, but is likely both facilitated by processes like Erdtree Burial, and also likely transport to the Realm of Shadow, but ultimately the mechanism is a bit up in the air. The primary point still stands, that all souls in the lands between are unbound from the laws of death and instead are resurrected.
I know all that, but I didn't understand the argument that they couldn't truly die despite being killed, but the mere fact that the Rune of Death was removed should be enough for that (even though it's contradictory). Also, Miyazaki only mentioned demigods in the interview, not everyone in general, which is strange because altering a Rune of the Elden Ring should affect the entire world at least, not just Marika and her family (perhaps it's a mistake by Miyazaki).
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Yeah, death shit is a bit up in the air cause there are a dozen different rites for it, ways to subvert it, ways to kill shit, etc.
Make sure you do two keys for both. He might even need three since he is made stronger/given more abilities in the age of the duskborn. I think it might also be good to note how Fortissax is the strongest of the ancient dragons, say for Placi likely.I've decided to make a page for my golden boy, what do you think (I'll add the references and statistics values later):
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****** damn it man I really want to fight them but my game is all types of messed up (keep getting the epic server error) and I tried everything to fix it. Welp gotta wait till I can mod the game I guess.
I've been meaning to do a size calc on this, but it's hard to import the textured skyboxes into blender
I have zero experience at calc like this so I don't know what to say honestly. Though it would surely be pretty nice to have that calced cause damn!
Best thing we could do is calculate the size of the eye itself, then scale up Caligo's main body to be proportionally as large. I can measure her model fairly easily, it's just the skybox which is the issue since the texture is night impossible to measure without rendering the skybox in blender proportionally with it.
Also, I don't want to bring this all up again, but I lowkey hope the Tarnished pack brings a boss refighting mode that uses the removal of death as a justification. I doubt it, but I have my hopes.
Thinking about it, maybe only the soul in ER is immortal (Type 5)?
Elden Ring is cannon to Nightreign, and Nightreign is GENERALLY cannon to ER but it has no impact because of the "closed time loop" nature of Nightreign.
