Bill Cipher vs Kiana

[Shar122]

Isn't this kind of what Type 3 Concept is?

Concept type 3 is a personal concept, which defines just only a specific entity or an object, being tied to it.. While Concept type 1 is based on essence that is more fundamental and governs a broader notion of "something" under it's area of influence on a universal accord or something.

 

[Shar122]

anyways, from what I've seen, this is probably an incon.

 

[Thanganimator]

14D vs 12D and it's a tie, absolute cinema

 

[StrymULTRA]

Why would she even agree to his deals or do anything, considering he's a dorito shaped monster who is most certainly dangerous and a threat?

Why is SI a thing on the Wiki to begin with if that's how it's treated lmfao.

SI was always a wincon, y'all be making up standards rn.

 

[Thanganimator]

Why is SI a thing on the Wiki to begin with if that's how it's treated lmfao.

SI was always a wincon, y'all be making up standards rn.

However, I don't think Kiana is so greedy for power and money that she will fooled by Bill.

 

[Vietthai96]

Kiana want to save the world. Power and money?, she never care about money, and as a Herrschers of Finality, she is one of strongest being in her verse

 

[StrymULTRA]

Kiana want to save the world. Power and money?, she never care about money, and as a Herrschers of Finality, she is one of strongest being in her verse

However, I don't think Kiana is so greedy for power and money that she will fooled by Bill.

I have absolutely no idea what are you both yapping about when the SI justification is this:

Tricked and terrorized great minds in history "since time began". Tricked Ford and is described as being highly charismatic, often aims to reach his personal goals through deals & deceptions, previously making others believe incorrect notions. Can make people cry from simply repeating "why". By faking remorse, Bill convinced the Axatotl to give him a second chance to live. Stated to have Tenth-Dimensional cunning and charisma. Created a cult known as "Ciphertology" while possessing a corpse, which ended up rapidly spreading across the inhabitants of USA, to the point that its followers have taken over multiple cities, even renaming Orchand Lake as "BillVile", with Bill also converting a reporter to his cult while being interviewed from him, or even convincing all the members of his cult to build the portal to the Nightmare Realm

Bill has never been able to trick only greedy people lol. He can manipulate anyone as long as they have desire to exploit (like with when Bill tricked Dipper in making a deal with him to solve the issue of the PC being locked, or literally the entire Ford thing).

 

[Thanganimator]

I have absolutely no idea what are you both yapping about when the SI justification is this:



Bill has never been able to trick only greedy people lol. He can manipulate anyone as long as they have desire to exploit (like with when Bill tricked Dipper in making a deal with him to solve the issue of the PC being locked, or literally the entire Ford thing).

So how will the battle play out when Bill uses SI on Kiana?

 

[CitRusReality64]

Incon FRA