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(MOD needed) Jinwoo major ability additions
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bump, again. can somebody tag some mods to this?
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I @ 19 mods
imma wait a few more days to see if Bambu comes
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ask klol to call the avengers and see what happens
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Bump
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so quick summary here for most significant abilities for the mods:
- AE type 1 was added for rulers and monarchs due to being stated to embody different laws, Destruction for monarchs (primordial darkness), Creation for rulers (the light), and death for jinwoo
- the resurrection was first revised down to be a higher degree of mid godly. then with the AE addition for rulers & monarchs it should be back to just regular high-godly(idk why its still a higher degree)
- NEP type 2 reasoning was also revised a bit, to include transcending the concept of non existence
thats all for now
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It is higher degree because even after conceptual erasure,and erasure of the true soul,it still wouldn’t be enough to kill a monarch.which means even if someone has high godly regen neg they still wouldn’t be able to neg this regen.
It wasn’t revised,this was here from the very beginning.
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not any monarch, only the shadow monarch.
also the conceptual erasure & true soul erasure dont really grant any higher regeneration, regening from the true soul is higher mid godly. add in the conceptual erasure then it becomes base high godly. they dont stack. one is base high godly, the other is higher degree mid godly, they're separate.
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It is any monarch.
During a vs battle they would lose due to bfr essentially.
If it was Suho vs a character then he could still summon them even vs someone with high godly regen neg.
This is just a misunderstanding on how this works on your part.
True soul exists deeper than their existential self.
So it would go like
Soul/mind->concept->true soul->whatever monarchs are after they die.
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Yes but standard high godly regeneration neg wouldn't work against it as you know, he even comes back from his true soul being erased, so it must be written once it's added
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also just wanna support the NEP layering stuff. specifically the last layer.
This was a power of a completely different quality from what Itarim had shown. If Itarim's power had crushed and conquered opponents with 'creation' and 'law,' Sung Jinwoo's power was a pure 'abyss' itself, which swallowed everything. Here, sound, light, and even the flow of time were meaningless.
basically jinwoo's power is of completely different quality than the itarim's have shown (keep in mind suho fought & killed an itarim literally in the same chapter so he would know). the itarim's creations and laws are not even on the same framework as jinwoo's nothingness which would swallow it whole. the creation & laws in question would be all of the things in the SL cosomlogy, keep in mind the absolute being was also an itarim and he created the cosmology. that would include type 1 concepts & the rest of NEP realms discussed before in the page.
this should also be at minimum nature type 2 by itself as well, incase the earlier realms dont get accepted. if that they do, then it cements jinwoo's existence as superior to those realms.
also just wanna support the NEP layering stuff. specifically the last layer.
This was a power of a completely different quality from what Itarim had shown. If Itarim's power had crushed and conquered opponents with 'creation' and 'law,' Sung Jinwoo's power was a pure 'abyss' itself, which swallowed everything. Here, sound, light, and even the flow of time were meaningless.
basically jinwoo's power is of completely different quality than the itarim's have shown (keep in mind suho fought & killed an itarim literally in the same chapter so he would know). the itarim's creations and laws are not even on the same framework as jinwoo's nothingness which would swallow it whole. the creation & laws in question would be all of the things in the SL cosomlogy, keep in mind the absolute being was also an itarim and he created the cosmology. that would include type 1 concepts & the rest of NEP realms discussed before in the page.
this should also be at minimum nature type 2 by itself as well, incase the earlier realms dont get accepted. if that they do, then it cements jinwoo's existence as superior to those realms.
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i won’t attack this,but i disagree with him being above his own absolute being. Aka the true god and strongest itarim.definitely way stronger than other itarims though
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Naw, he is above, it's portrayed that he has no equal in term of fighting capability, a power capable of returning everything that existed and created to nothingness.
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Yeah said power is originally the absolute beings.he just gave it to Ashborn.prime Ab has every power of monarchs and rulers.
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That is his strongest power manifested into one of his servant, he made him to surpass everything, himself included obviously, but yeah.
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Where do you currently have sjw based on the feats and everything provided? Whats your honest opinion vietthai?
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Is there anything new?, i forgot about this thread completely, swamped with evaluation requests
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Lol im sorry your swamped with requests xD. Must be exhausting. Even the dxd debunking thread is waiting for your opinion. I understand though, having irl work and doing this has to be somewhat time consuming.
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there is some interview from the author that came out from a social media post that was endorsed by a third party site book selling site in russia (under very suspicious circumstances tbh). if true it would mean ragnarok is an alternate timeline. it wouldnt change the statements & feats, would only change the continuity it would apply to
i dont think it could be used as evidence though considering how no official SL sources have even acknowledged it. its just a few social media posts from what looks to be a promotional affiliate of this Russian book selling site called litres (apparently its a large site). the posts were endorsed by them. though no press releases or an interview on their main site was posted.
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So essentially what does this mean then
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it means there's an interview that decanonizes ragnarok that was released in a social media post by what most likely is a promotional partner of a large russian book selling site, no official sources from the SL ip holders confirm this interview happened, thus i dont think it can be used here without that evidence.
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So it means essentially its still canon if no sl ip holder confirmed the decanonization
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Ah yes that DxD thread too
Hmm just skim through some recent comments, seem like there are canonicality issue then, probably should wait for that problem reach conclusion, otherwise we can't do anything at all
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not unless we trust the word of a social media poster that was endorsed by a Russian book selling site.
we can, even if by some miracle that interview turned out to be true. we'll just make separate profiles
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Depend, if Ragnarok is treated by the author as alternate timeline thing, then yeah you can make a separate profile, but if the author treat it as some kind of fanservice fanfiction or something similar then there will be no profile
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well the interview itself is in russian but mtl & translations online say smth like it's "part of the SL universe, just not the main plot, kind of like different marvel continuities" basically an alternate timeline.
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Sevil is right. It says here that it is a part of the solo leveling universe but is an alternate timeline instead. So unless its qualified as something else, its canon i think
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Ragnarok is already acknowledged by the Original author as official.
Though im not sure how canonicity works atm since the Manwha of Ragnarok seems to divert and have original contents compared to the Web novel of Ragnarok and which takes priority
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I was going to make a post later, but I was already beaten to it.
Ragnarok is a fan service spin-off. “like one of many possible scenarios” and “similar to Marvel’s parallel universes” makes it sound non-canon.
Source of Interview (Not in English): https://m.vk.com/wall-198303655_39892
It’s like very late at night but I’m gonna post this comment.
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can you tell what the person that posted this is? does he work at that company or is he just a promoter / affiliate ?
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You could never prove this btw.
We have multiple direct statements from his actual accounts that talk about the canonicity .
Some random interview from an unknown source that directly contradicts what he wrote on kakao & papyrus
Russia and Korea aren’t even on good terms. Why would he give out his phone number for some ebook service.
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Many sources (especially fan pages, news articles, and even KakaoPage’s own material) treat Ragnarok as a direct sequel to Solo Leveling, continuing the universe after the original’s ending.
The publishers or licensors are promoting and still treat it as part of the official continuity, so I highly doubt the authenticity of that third party interview.
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Chugong has made no statement on the manwha to my knowledge
