(MOD needed) Jinwoo major ability additions

[Dooyo]

After searching since yesterday,
there is zero neutral source besides that telegram link nor the Original Korean texts from Chugong, so called "translated".

What makes it more dubious is the fact that zero Korean outlets news is making wave about it as SL popularity is beyond huge in Korea.

You would think the author of SL making that statement (writing himself the sequel of SL) will be all over the news in Korea, but no lol.

 

[Dooyo]

Bump

 

[1smrizvi]

Bump

 

[Dooyo]

I was going to make a post later, but I was already beaten to it.

Ragnarok is a fan service spin-off. “like one of many possible scenarios” and “similar to Marvel’s parallel universes” makes it sound non-canon.



Source of Interview (Not in English): https://m.vk.com/wall-198303655_39892

It’s like very late at night but I’m gonna post this comment.

The source came from a Russian third-party book distributor, not the original publisher (Kakao), and that the so-called interview hasn’t even been published on their official website or press outlet. That alone should be enough to raise a red flag.

Treating that telegram post as gospel and running with the idea that it’s a “fanfic” spin-off, but again, he gives zero new evidence, just assumptions and repetition. None of them show an official Chugong quote, a direct scan, a press interview, or even a verified tweet. They’re just reacting to a second-hand translation and making judgment calls based on it.

Meanwhile, the facts are clear:

Solo Leveling: Ragnarok is officially published by KakaoPage, the same company behind the original SL.

It’s set after the events of the main story.

It follows Sung Suho, Jinwoo’s son.

Kakao themselves promoted it with the phrase “Leveling continues.”


So yes, it's a spin-off in authorship, but a canon continuation in timeline and publication. You can’t declare something non-canon based on whispers and telegram screenshots, especially when even the people repeating the rumor didn't sourced it properly.

Until someone can provide the full interview with Chugong’s direct words in korean, not a reworded translation from a telegram message backed by a Russian e-book site, the canon status of Ragnarok stands. Everything else is noise.

It's like ignoring how franchise canon works.

Ragnarok was:

Commissioned by Kakao, the IP holder

Serialized on KakaoPage, same platform as OG SL

Set after Solo Leveling’s ending, continuing the timeline

Following Jinwoo’s son, referencing past events and characters

That’s literally how a sequel works. Even if it's labeled a "spin-off" in tone or author, it's still canon in-universe unless the IP owner or Chugong clearly says otherwise.

 

[Sevil Natas]

can you guys stop derailing the thread? its makes the chance of a mod replying even slimmer. go discuss this some where else or when somebody makes the thread about that dubious interview.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Ignoring all the things I disagree with in this thread, yall got a better chance at making a new thread with fixed scans than all of this.

 

[Dooyo]

Bump

 

[Sevil Natas]

bump, that canonicity thread is probably not gonna get made, just throwing that out there.

 

[Vietthai96]

Anyway, looking back at NEP and HGR, I only see normal High-Godly Regen rather than something of a higher degree. I also only see NEP1 rather than NEP2

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

Anyway, looking back at NEP and HGR, I only see normal High-Godly Regen rather than something of a higher degree. I also only see NEP1 rather than NEP2

I am curious. Do you agree with conceptual manip?

Also the AE. I assume you agree since that is what high godly is based on.

If you do agree on that,then i don’t see how you could disagree on Nep 2.

Since at minimum, Suho would represent the concept of nothingness.(Nep1)

And jinwoos nothingness exists before and created that nothingness.

Which should fit Nep 2 by proceeding existence and nonexistence being niether. Being absolute nothingness where the concept of nonexistence cannot exist

 

[Dooyo]

Anyway, looking back at NEP and HGR, I only see normal High-Godly Regen rather than something of a higher degree. I also only see NEP1 rather than NEP2

Explain how it's NEP1 rather than NEP2 with all the context being presented here ? That doesn't make sense, the Abyss isn't simply nothingness, it's beyond nothingness

 

[Sevil Natas]

Anyway, looking back at NEP and HGR, I only see normal High-Godly Regen rather than something of a higher degree. I also only see NEP1 rather than NEP2

also just wanna support the NEP layering stuff. specifically the last layer.

This was a power of a completely different quality from what Itarim had shown. If Itarim's power had crushed and conquered opponents with 'creation' and 'law,' Sung Jinwoo's power was a pure 'abyss' itself, which swallowed everything. Here, sound, light, and even the flow of time were meaningless.

basically jinwoo's power is of completely different quality than the itarim's have shown (keep in mind suho fought & killed an itarim literally in the same chapter so he would know). the itarim's creations and laws are not even on the same framework as jinwoo's nothingness which would swallow it whole. the creation & laws in question would be all of the things in the SL cosomlogy, keep in mind the absolute being was also an itarim and he created the cosmology. that would include type 1 concepts & the rest of NEP realms discussed before in the page.
this should also be at minimum nature type 2 by itself as well, incase the earlier realms dont get accepted. if that they do, then it cements jinwoo's existence as superior to those realms.

i added this part here for clarification, this should be at minimum type 2, because the "absolute nothingness" here would be of a completely different framework as laws & creation of the itarim, which would include concepts & what not

 

[Vietthai96]

I am curious. Do you agree with conceptual manip?

Also the AE. I assume you agree since that is what high godly is based on.

They are fine i guess

Since at minimum, Suho would represent the concept of nothingness.(Nep1)

And jinwoos nothingness exists before and created that nothingness.

Which should fit Nep 2 by proceeding existence and nonexistence being niether. Being absolute nothingness where the concept of nonexistence cannot exist

Show me evidence about this, i guess, have too little time to see every comment, your blog also didn't argue this. And the part about concept is for aspect so it is mostly irrelevant

i added this part here for clarification, this should be at minimum type 2, because the "absolute nothingness" here would be of a completely different framework as laws & creation of the itarim, which would include concepts & what not

Tbh, this is pretty much not related to NEP2

 

[Sevil Natas]

Tbh, this is pretty much not related to NEP2

how? this is pretty much talking the difference of nature in power between the itarim & jinwoo, itarim being creation & concepts while Jinwoo's being absolute nothingness or the abyss, it is very related to NEP.

 

[Vietthai96]

how? this is pretty much talking the difference of nature in power between the itarim & jinwoo, itarim being creation & concepts while Jinwoo's being absolute nothingness or the abyss, it is very related to NEP.

How different of nature in power gonna related to nep?, NEP is a state of being, superior in power pretty much irrelevant

How creation & concept gonna related to NEP Nature? The concept part could related to Aspect

Jimwoo being absolute nothingness only made him NEP Nature Type 1

 

[Dooyo]

How different of nature in power gonna related to nep?, NEP is a state of being, superior in power pretty much irrelevant

How creation & concept gonna related to NEP Nature? The concept part could related to Aspect

Jimwoo being absolute nothingness only made him NEP Nature Type 1

The Shadow Monarch is one with the Darkness of the Abyss, the <World of Nothingness> where even one's <True Soul>, their Nonexistent Self is reduced to <Nothingness> along with the memories of them ever existing, lacking and transcending the concept of Death, which in turns dwarfs the World Tree, the Omnipresent Principle sustaining all existence across all dimensions

How you interpret this then ? It's not NEP 1 as True Soul who is already nonexistent aka NEP1 is further reduced into nothingness in the Abyss or world of nothingness which is Jinwoo true self.

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

How different of nature in power gonna related to nep?, NEP is a state of being, superior in power pretty much irrelevant

How creation & concept gonna related to NEP Nature? The concept part could related to Aspect

Jimwoo being absolute nothingness only made him NEP Nature Type 1

I sent an explanation in DMs.

If you agree with the conceptual stuff. Then that means you agree with the world tree. With the world tree shadow representing nothingness.
Meaning it is the very concept of nothingness the absolute being created.

Yet absolute nothingness existed before,and is what created said things.being of an entirely different quality that cannot be reached.

So it proceeded both the concept of existence and nonexistence. Being such that those things cannot even exist inside it.

As for example Suho who became one(fused) with the world tree. And therefore the concept of nothingness, can never reach Jinwoo regardless of what he tries

 

[Sevil Natas]

How different of nature in power gonna related to nep?, NEP is a state of being, superior in power pretty much irrelevant

because its stated to be different in quality, not just superior, there's a difference, if his NEP is of completely different quality then it is a completely different category/nature to the itarim's power, which would include, again, concepts and the Non existent realms we talked about earlier,

How creation & concept gonna related to NEP Nature? The concept part could related to Aspect

if your NEP is beyond concepts or rather the concept of nothingness then it is type 2. according to other staff i asked anyway.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

I told ya

 

[Vietthai96]

Yet absolute nothingness existed before,and is what created said things.being of an entirely different quality that cannot be reached.

So it proceeded both the concept of existence and nonexistence. Being such that those things cannot even exist inside it.

Scan for this?

The Shadow Monarch is one with the Darkness of the Abyss, the <World of Nothingness> where even one's <True Soul>, their Nonexistent Self is reduced to <Nothingness> along with the memories of them ever existing, lacking and transcending the concept of Death, which in turns dwarfs the World Tree, the Omnipresent Principle sustaining all existence across all dimensions

How you interpret this then ? It's not NEP 1 as True Soul who is already nonexistent aka NEP1 is further reduced into nothingness in the Abyss or world of nothingness which is Jinwoo true self.

From what i see, in the scan, it is just that a nonexistent was reduced or erased further, this isn't NEP2, just layered NEP1. Being NEP1 and getting erased further doesn't make you beyond normal nothingness to the point of NEP2

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

Scan for this?

I sent in DMs.idk if you are rushing or something,but….

From what i see, in the scan, it is just that a nonexistent was reduced or erased further, this isn't NEP2, just layered NEP1. Being NEP1 and getting erased further doesn't make you beyond normal nothingness to the point of NEP2

It does when it is the literal concept that is erased and the concept of nothingness is born from it, as well as it being of a qualitative nature above the concept of nothingness.scaling above SOA where the concept of nothingness literally cannot exist.

I am not trying to knock you or anything, but this is Blatant Nep2. So I will have to get someone more knowledgeable on the subject than you as per the rules

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[Vietthai96]

I sent in DMs.idk if you are rushing or something,but….

Bro i'm busy with many thing so i don't have time to check everything, you could just post them in this thread itself

It does when it is the literal concept that is erased and the concept of nothingness is born from it, as well as it being of a qualitative nature above the concept of nothingness.scaling above SOA where the concept of nothingness literally cannot exist.

Yeah no, concept is just aspect, get you concept of nothingness erased doesn't mean you went to a further state of nothingess that is even alien to normal nothing

Qualitative nature is not something you can argued here unless we are talking about 1-A or 11-C, because if you adgue that he get qualitatively erased the he became 11-C being

I am not trying to knock you or anything, but this is Blatant Nep2. So I will have to get someone more knowledgeable on the subject than you as per the rules

Oke, i'm fine, if other staff accept NEP2 then good for you, i'm not going to stonewalling or anything, just evaluated this thread based on my knowledge

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

Bro i'm busy with many thing so i don't have time to check everything, you could just post them in this thread itself

That’s what I was referring to when saying you are rushing.

Yeah no, concept is just aspect, get you concept of nothingness erased doesn't mean you went to a further state of nothingess that is even alien to normal nothing

That isn’t even the argument. It is the fact that it literally gives birth to said concepts.while also directly being stated to be of better quality,beyond,unreachable.and everything returns to. This makes it so that it exists before and above existence (1) and nonexistence (0) while also being beyond them. Which makes it impossible to be deeper nothingness since the concept itself Cannot exist there. If it doesn’t exist,then a deeper part isn’t possible.nonexistence beyond the concept of nonexistence along with all this context blatantly isn’t Nep 1.

In terms of binary, this would be something that is neither 1 nor 0, where 1 is existence and 0 is nonexistence.

Qualitative nature is not something you can argued here unless we are talking about 1-A or 11-C, because if you adgue that he get qualitatively erased the he became 11-C being

No one is arguing qualitative superiority. The argument is that since its nature is literally of an entirely different quality, it can not just be more of something (isn’t more/deeper nothingness (layered Nep1). No need to argue 1-A. This is simply a case where it is more fundamental than the concept of nothingness. Where nothingness is born from,returns to, and is subordinated to it.

I gave Suho as an example. He is the manifestation of the concept of nonexistentence. Yet regardless of how much he grows, he would never be able to reach absolute nothingness.

This argument is more than (erased the concept of nonexistence) which is just conceptual erasure.

Oke, i'm fine, if other staff accept NEP2 then good for you, i'm not going to stonewalling or anything, just evaluated this thread based on my knowledge

And that is fine. I am in disagreement with your view,so I am going to find someone more knowledgeable than both of us.

 

[Sevil Natas]

Yeah no, concept is just aspect, get you concept of nothingness erased doesn't mean you went to a further state of nothingess that is even alien to normal nothing

i think you misunderstand, concept is just an aspect but thats only referring to the concept of the character itself, rather than the concept nothingness, if someone is beyond the concept of nothingness, thats not an aspect anymore, that relates to nature, IE your nothingness operates beyond the concept of nothingness, so you're beyond the the binary of existence. thats how i understand it anyway, and why i think the statement i sent earlier is strong evidence for Nature type 2.

 

[Dooyo]

Bump, why there is still no mod coming here ?

 

[Dooyo]

Bump

 

[1smrizvi]

Bump

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Minor Bump.

 

[Dooyo]

Sigh, daily bump

 

[Dooyo]

Bump

 

[1smrizvi]

Bump

 

[GodzillavsRayquaza]

Season 3 is going to come out before this CRT finishes

 

[1smrizvi]

I know bro, i dont grt why its taking this long for mods to respond

 

[1smrizvi]

Anyway, looking back at NEP and HGR, I only see normal High-Godly Regen rather than something of a higher degree. I also only see NEP1 rather than NEP2

Excuse me vietthai but how do we get more mods to respond here considering we bumped this many times? I understand the mods are usually busy but its taking quite a while for some mods to come and respond

 

[AsterReal]

Excuse me vietthai but how do we get more mods to respond here considering we bumped this many times? I understand the mods are usually busy but its taking quite a while for some mods to come and respond

At this point, the thread should be closed and another one opened with the current content and the added content. Before it goes from 5 to 8 pages.

 

[Vietthai96]

Excuse me vietthai but how do we get more mods to respond here considering we bumped this many times? I understand the mods are usually busy but its taking quite a while for some mods to come and respond

Ask them on their wall and.....well, wait. Or i could ping some mods for you, though i can't promise they will evaluate

 

[1smrizvi]

I think ping should be fine, one of us message walled some mods and none came i think

 

[1smrizvi]

Thats if your okay with it of course

 

[Vietthai96]

I think ping should be fine, one of us message walled some mods and none came i think

Who do you want to ping?

 

[1smrizvi]

Anyone, doesnt matter who. I dont really know the mods here so well so i dont even have a specific preference