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All Purpose Dragon Ball Thread

His Tree of Might Backstory is referenced a good few times. In Lord Slug’s Pamphlet’s, the Anime Character List in Return of Cooler’s, Son Goku Denetsu, and the Daizenshuu. The first three only alluded to it being ToM, generally just talking about the fire he’s saved from, but Daizenshuu 7 makes it quite clear.

“Hire Dragon:
History: Gohan saves him from a mountain fire in “Super Decisive Battle for Earth”. Though he’s not too fond of people, he likes Gohan.
Special Characteristics: He’s distinguished by his two horns, round eyes, and large wings.
Techniques: He can fly freely through the air, and give people rides. In “Super Saiyan Son Goku”, he performed by dancing along to Gohan’s whistling. It appeared not only in the movies, but in the TV show as well. In the middle of the Garlic Jr. arc, he noticed the Aqua Mist, and saved Gohan by pushing him into a cave. (Daizenshuu 5, p.38/Daizenshuu 6, p.60)”


So generally speaking, it’s safe to assume he’s the ToM Dragon. Of course, that leads to some narrative holes, but we already handled that in the Cooler thread. Plus, ToM is necessarily canon because it’s canon other things that we know are canon to the Toei Anime, like the Future Trunks Special, or Fusion Reborn, etc.
Thanks man..

Now I wonder. Why it took us a lot to find all of these scans??....

Like, we've been years trying to debate this skeptics denying over and over the movies's canonicity.
And we did it well, becouse back in 2023-2022, we had very little evidences but we managed to fight back this people that only knew how to to bring negativity to the table.....

This only shows me how Westerners are so obsessed with canonicity over everything else...

Like, how entitled people from western emisphire decide what's worth depending on it's canonicity, how the create their own delusions of "canonicity"....their own headcanons, believing they know more than the authors....


If you knew how incredibly insufferable is the Spanish and Brazilian fandom in regards this issue.....

Talking from experience.....
 
This only shows me how Westerners are so obsessed with canonicity over everything else...

Like, how entitled people from western emisphire decide what's worth depending on it's canonicity, how the create their own delusions of "canonicity"....their own headcanons, believing they know more than the authors....
akatsuki cloak
atm
wells fargo
 
Apparently,
  • Semi-Perfect Cell is ten-times as strong as Imperfect Cell.
  • Potential Unlock Gohan is ten-times as strong as Pre-Potential Unlock Gohan.
  • After three years of training, Goku, Vegeta, and Piccolo are equals. (Guessing it's referring to their full power.)
  • Super Saiyan Grade Two derives its strength from its muscles (duh), whereas Super Saiyan 2 maximizes the user's Ki (duh).
  • Spopovich is only ten-times as strong as normally under Babidi's control, which, hm-
  • The East Supreme Kai's strength is comparable to "that of Goku and his friends at the time of the Cell Game".
  • "[Super] Buu and [SSJ] Gotenks fight with unprecedented power".
All of that is fun.
You think the Le Manga de Légende multipliers could get accepted?
 
Whats the deal with some guys thinking Roshis fake UI can hang up with Gokus UI?

Roshis UI is like a small hard drive, filled with 300 years of experience and the amount of muscle memorys he has built, but limited to whats already stored.

Gokus UI is like a supercomputer plugged into the internet - constantly processing, adapting, and evolving in real time. While his body does all the work, he can still freely use his head and think of new strategies. You are basically fighting two martial artists at once.

Same principle but process and outcome are fundamentally different.

Guess which one is superior.
 
ehhhhh infinite universe I think
Very problematic and time-consuming, unless there's new evidence on the subject i won't even get into it, the last time i tried it once and there were 2 who disagreed and 2 who agreed, then TiltedFN made one, but was rejected

I don't think it's the best time for the infinite universe, maybe the next one to be rejected will create a rule about it, so the only way is to wait for another guide to cosmology to come out saying that the universe is infinite or for the manga itself to mention it.
 
Very problematic and time-consuming, unless there's new evidence on the subject i won't even get into it, the last time i tried it once and there were 2 who disagreed and 2 who agreed, then TiltedFN made one, but was rejected

I don't think it's the best time for the infinite universe, maybe the next one to be rejected will create a rule about it, so the only way is to wait for another guide to cosmology to come out saying that the universe is infinite or for the manga itself to mention it.
the Worldview CRT was accepted, wouldn't that help?
 
I also think DBE Piccolo might deserve two keys (one for his youth, where the visions occur, and one for when he battles in the present)

His youth (when his 6-B feat is performed) treats Oozaru on his level. Piccolo trades blows with and is stated to match Fully Synced Goku, who is superior to the Oozaru, which seems to imply present Piccolo is stronger than his past self. Piccolo is still ultimately defeated by Fully Synced Goku, but still
 
I think this one is a site error, because right before the Red Text is the properly linked citation to the stats used for that page.
I don't think so. I just checked it. It seems to be confusing the system because the same name is used with different text. Specifically, AP 1 and 2 are used with multiple movie names.

I need to get to sleep soon since I have to be up again soon, but if it's not fixed in a few days I can fix it by simply renaming them for their respective movies instead of 1 and 2.
 
Hey, some Dragon Ball pages are missing references. Would some supporters like to weigh in? The references sections are what's got issues, look for the red text in that section.
  • Android 16 (needs the chapter number where he resists his energy being drained)
The reference used is from Dragon Ball Super Chapter 56, but the page where Android 16 resisted Cell's absorption is from Dragon Ball Chapter 371 (DBZ 177).
 
If it's not listed in his profile, nothing is valid. Generally, a Layered EE CRT is needed for DB.

Zeno, Grand Priest, Gods, Vegeta, Goku, Granolah, Gas, Toppo

I think Zeno has 3-4 Layer
All right, I'll create a crt to give layers to Zen'oh and the rest... I think I'll do something about it in 5 hours' time.
 
So you think it's better not to do it for Zeno and just leave it to the gods of destruction?
Well it's a bit more complicated because of the whole metaphysical aspects can't have dimensionality and stuff but for now it would be better to leave zeno out of this

I am currently working on g.o.d hakai layers thread but got busy recently with assignments I am free now so I can make the thread in mean time
 
I was thinking here, the gods of destruction should also be given Nonexistence (Nature Type 1, Aspects Type 2 Concept ) they are able to destroy the macrocosm that contains the subspace that contains the room of time and this is between the dimensions of the Universe according to the verse page itself.
 
Well it's a bit more complicated because of the whole metaphysical aspects can't have dimensionality and stuff but for now it would be better to leave zeno out of this

I am currently working on g.o.d hakai layers thread but got busy recently with assignments I am free now so I can make the thread in mean time
All right, you can do that.
 
I thought "dimensionality" for abilities doesn't matter anymore. Or is EE an exception?
Well given how it is you can count ee layers for his soul based ee/history ee as those are non physical/fundamental aspects,as I said it is complicated because of this whole thing,his space time ee wouldn't be layered as he is erasing a 5d structure.
 
Well given how it is you can count ee layers for his soul based ee/history ee as those are non physical/fundamental aspects,as I said it is complicated because of this whole thing,his space time ee wouldn't be layered as he is erasing a 5d structure.
I'll warn you right away, Beerus can erase beings that can resist narrative destruction, like Dr. Mashirito, so it would be kind of complicated with the hakai stuff

 
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