Saitama Power Nullification (Hax addition CRT)

[JustANormalPerson01]

Oh, and btw, I forgot to mention it, but Empty Void's skull wasn't broken immediatly right after the punch. We got Saitama arriving the scene, Blast getting there, ninjas getting there, the conversation about Empty Void happening, Saitama's New stalkers (ninjas) attacking Saitama, Saitama one shotting his stalkers, God beasts appearing and shooting the crowd, Blast protecting said crowd and explaining what God Beasts are, Saitama moving to punch the beasts and then Empty Void expulses God's power, kills the beasts and after they are sent back to their original dimension then the mask breaks.

It is not something as simple as "Saitama broke their monster vessel due to pure AP and so they lost their God's power". But rather a much more complex situation than that, since the mask wasn't broken the instant Saitama punched then, but, instead, time later after a lot of events.

This is clearly not a situation about AP, specially when Blast, who, trying to suppress Void did everything he could to the point of leaving him in a comatose state over 15 years, with his body being so bad that you can see almost no flesh where his chest is, and his organs under it, meaning his attacks did indeed bypass the monster vessel.

Blast identifies Saitama's fist as an anomaly, rather than his strength or his capability of breaking monster vessels. And we see that, in Empty Void's case, the vessel was broke  after God's power was taken out and  after Empty Void was back to normal, meaning that the destruction of the vessel is more of a simbology of the then-monster leaving it and becoming back to a human than the damage Saitama did. I also wanted to mention that Blast was looking for a method to bring monsters back to humans, which involved them having the will to go back, something he wouldn't do if all it took was beat the shit out of the monster. But I think that was retconned out?

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

You can blatantly see the shell is missing from his entire face up until like halfway through his hair in all of those panels and is slowly breaking apart even further

Which goes against your point of Present Garou receiving more damage than Future Garou and, due to that, losing God's Power. Even more when you claimed that it passed "immediately", clearly leaving out the context of the scene.

I could agree that the shell was breaking more because the monsterification was worn out as a consequence of God power leaving Garou. But that, again, goes against your argument of more damage to the monster vessel being the cause of Garou losing God's power.

 

[DavidTPPM]

While his body is in holes like it is biological. Even if we say "so only the face must be broken", it still doesn't make any sense at all.

Why not?
We see that when the face was broken to a significant enough extent the vessel lost it's power twice, meanwhile no other monster has ever been power nulled by Saitamas punches.
The most consistent logical conclusion here is that that's just how the God power up works

Because he's stronger than before? But then, Saitama broke parallel timeline Garou's shell with a serious punch while being extremely casual against the Garou here.

Sure but being somewhat casual while 1000+x stronger is still superior to being basically relative.

Not only that but it doesn't seem different visually at all.

There's is a pretty visible difference. When Garous powers remain his hair and a part of his forehead are still covered while when Garou and Void lose their power their entire face and most of (eventually all of) their hair is uncovered.

And even Garou himself seems to mostly connect the power loss to the strength of the "mysterious punch" rather than some PN hax.

No, it was only his face. After he was beaten, other heroes hit him until some other parts of him were broken. Saitama only affected his face like the parallel version.

No lol. You can very clearly see his hair is mostly uncovered and that his shell keeps falling apart in essentially every single panel he's in, meaning even the parts still attached to him are already broken

Yk, unlike parallel timeline Garou who's shell isn't doing that at all.

Even then, it's not his entire hair as well. You can see it in every other page that comes after it.

It's not his entire hair yet because it's actively falling apart more and more with each panel we see. Meaning not only is more of his face revealed but seemingly the entire shell on his face is broken and just in the process of falling off.

Again completely unlike PT Garou who's shell isn't breaking apart any further.

The fact that AGs shell was more destroyed is clearly an undeniable fact, idk why are we still going over this. It showed visibly more immediate destruction and was still quickly falling apart with each passing moment.

Blast's statements doesn't imply anything like this but shows it to be special.

Blasts statement can be interpreted either way. Except we see Saitama punch countless monsters including Garou without power nulling them making that interpretation far less likely.

This is a straightforward upgrade if you ask me. Though how it's explained in the profile matters since Saitama doesn't just do it to everyone with some type of ability.

This is anything but a straightforward upgrade. A character who has been shown punching enemies countless times without power nulling them having punch based power null is the least straightforward upgrade you can possibly propose

 

[DavidTPPM]

Which goes against your point of Present Garou receiving more damage than Future Garou

No? It literally supports it?
Future Garou = just face and not even the full forehead
Present Garou = the entire face + most of the hair + is further falling apart

This isn't even me making an argument, I'm literally just noting an objective fact. A less durable being got hit by the same person and suffered visibly more damage.

I could agree that the shell was breaking more because the monsterification was worn out as a consequence of God power leaving Garou.

Why would you assume it was because of the monsterification being worn out rather than the objective truth of present Garou being incredibly less durable than future Garou?

But that, again, goes against your argument of more damage to the monster vessel being the cause of Garou losing God's power.

Yeah if you made an assumption that purposely contradicts my argument it would indeed contradict my argument.

But like I said, present Garou being immensely less durable than future Garou (in the thousands of times ranges at the very least) and taking visibly more damage to the shell on his face are objective facts, so it doesn't matter.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

One vote is enough if the addition is simple and straightforward. (as far as i know)

OPM is on the list that needs 3 votes.

 

[MrTayman616]

Why not?
We see that when the face was broken to a significant enough extent the vessel lost it's power twice, meanwhile no other monster has ever been power nulled by Saitamas punches.
The most consistent logical conclusion here is that that's just how the God power up works

That would be the case if Blast hadn't made the statement. Which he literally says it doesn't matter how much he overpowered Void.

No lol. You can very clearly see his hair is mostly uncovered and that his shell keeps falling apart in essentially every single panel he's in, meaning even the parts still attached to him are already broken

Yk, unlike parallel timeline Garou who's shell isn't doing that at all.

It's not his entire hair yet because it's actively falling apart more and more with each panel we see. Meaning not only is more of his face revealed but seemingly the entire shell on his face is broken and just in the process of falling off.

Again completely unlike PT Garou who's shell isn't breaking apart any further.

The fact that AGs shell was more destroyed is clearly an undeniable fact, idk why are we still going over this. It showed visibly more immediate destruction and was still quickly falling apart with each passing moment.

It's because God's power is gone. Not because Saitama is so strong that it continues to crack even minutes after the hit.

The shell lost it's power.

Blasts statement can be interpreted either way. Except we see Saitama punch countless monsters including Garou without power nulling them making that interpretation far less likely.

This is anything but a straightforward upgrade. A character who has been shown punching enemies countless times without power nulling them having punch based power null is the least straightforward upgrade you can possibly propose

No, since he gives his example about Void, he literally says it's not a matter of strength but something else.

You're seeing it as overall rather than specific. Why would it apply to literally everything at all? Like i said

Though how it's explained in the profile matters since Saitama doesn't just do it to everyone with some type of ability.

Blast doesn't say "I couldn't do it to every monster i faced" or anything. This is related to God avatars, who has borrowed divine power.

Which is why it would need to be specified in the profile like "Saitama can take out the divine power" or " Saitama can punch out borrowed power" etc.
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[Phsccarvalho]

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Touch-based powernull isn't a minor power.

Besides:

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This does not apply to popular verses.

 

[MrTayman616]

Touch-based powernull isn't a minor power.

Besides:


This does not apply to popular verses.

Oh i didn't see that, nvm then.

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

No? It literally supports it?
Future Garou = just face and not even the full forehead
Present Garou = the entire face + most of the hair + is further falling apart

Future Garou = Just the face, not even the full forehead
Present Garou = Just the face, not even the full forehead. His monster face is getting shattered over time.

Don't change the facts to fit your interpretation, please.

Why would you assume it was because of the monsterification being worn out rather than the objective truth of present Garou being incredibly less durable than future Garou?

Because Garou already lost God's power at that point of the fight. So, further damage to his vessel —which is the whole basis of your argument— is meaningless at that point.

But like I said, present Garou being immensely less durable than future Garou (in the thousands of times ranges at the very least) and taking visibly more damage to the shell on his face are objective facts, so it doesn't matter.

His monster shell broke more after God power left him. Your whole argument resides in that destroying the shell is what causes God power leaving him:

Secondly, I don't think this is enough to suggest power null. Saitama punched Garou repeatedly without nullifying his power and in both cases the outer shell created by God around Void and Garou was very significantly damaged when the power seeped out of them. The context and anti-feats suggest more so that destroying the shell enough results in the power leaving the vessels and that Blast just failed to do sufficient damage to achieve that rather than yk, some haxy power null.

Which:
1. Against Present Garou, isn't true at all. Further destruction of the outer shell was caused after the power left him
2. Against Empty Void, isn't true at all. We saw that the monster shell broke after the God's power left him. And it broke even less than Future Garou's.

Not to mention you're bringing immediacy to things that weren't immediate at all, but a process that happened after God's power already left. Such as the destruction of both shells.

Edit: Correction: Future Garou's shell was indeed falling too, though it is more minor. Let's see: Here, Garou's Monster Shell was covering his chin. Better seen here, where we also see some fragments falling. Right after that, said fragment of his chin wasn't there. Also, right before being turned into a salt statue, his forehead was indeed visible, only his hair wasn't.

 

[Phoenks]

This is pretty blatant yea. Though it should be "Limited" to only people who are similarly blessed by beings of divine power.

Something I could see it working on would be things like God of Highschool's "Borrowed Power."

 

[Epiccheev]

Something I could see it working on would be things like God of Highschool's "Borrowed Power."

Saitama punches Reinhard and everyone in a 50 mile radius gets showered with random blessings.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Limited Power Nullification looks fine.

 

[Phoenks]

@Qawsedf234 can you check this out real quick

i wonder if my ping powers still work or if i have been nerfed

 

[Bernkastelll]

How come I stopped receiving notifications of my own thread? There's some serious glitched stuff in this site

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

You stop receiving notificacions if you enter the thread you have as "Watched" and don't go to the last page. At least that has happened several times to me

 

[Nierre]

op looks good to me

 

[DavidTPPM]

That would be the case if Blast hadn't made the statement. Which he literally says it doesn't matter how much he overpowered Void.

No, he says no he couldn't do so no matter how much he tried. When we see damaged void after the fight his head shell is fully intact.

It's because God's power is gone. Not because Saitama is so strong that it continues to crack even minutes after the hit.

Completely baseless assumption.

No, since he gives his example about Void, he literally says it's not a matter of strength but something else.

No, he doesn't say it's not a matter of strength he says no matter what HE tried he couldn't take it away.

You're seeing it as overall rather than specific. Why would it apply to literally everything at all? Like i said

Okay then it's a weakness of God's power exactly how I said, since all he can do is remove the powers of q specific character by damaging their shell enough.

Which is why it would need to be specified in the profile like "Saitama can take out the divine power" or " Saitama can punch out borrowed power" etc.
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No, he has only SPECIFICALLY punched out the OPM Gods power when he did enough damage to the target. Like the fact that both times Saitama completely broke the shell on their head is pretty blatant.

This would get into weird NLF areas where people can try to apply it to abilities completely utterly different from Gods power-up under the false umbrella of "borrowed" or "divine" power. Like for example Sasuke's rinnegan could vaguely fall under a "borrowed divine power" umbrella because he got it from a being that people considered "a god", same with RoR characters and Volundr, but those work in such a different way that it'd be completely unreasonable to do so. Or, like Phoenks already did,

Something I could see it working on would be things like God of Highschool's "Borrowed Power."

BPs also fall under "divine borrowed power" umbrella pretty easily but their mechanism is so utterly different from Gods power up that they're completely different.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Okay then it's a weakness of God's power exactly how I said, since all he can do is remove the powers of q specific character by damaging their shell enough.

Blast disagrees

 

[Phoenks]

No, he says no he couldn't do so no matter how much he tried. When we see damaged void after the fight his head shell is fully intact.

What is your issue? The clear indication of this statement is that no amount of power/damage to Empty Void would have done this.

Completely baseless assumption.

It's literally not baseless. We see his power escaping from his body.

No, he doesn't say it's not a matter of strength he says no matter what HE tried he couldn't take it away.

That's the indication of the dialogue. Why are you being disingenuous?

Okay then it's a weakness of God's power exactly how I said, since all he can do is remove the powers of q specific character by damaging their shell enough.

God Weaknesses: Saitama.

As funny as that would be, that is clearly not what it is lol. Saitama just has some weird power to remove God's influence over things. I am almost certain we will see this brought up again and I am also almost certain that the more information that comes out, the more it will support the view that it is Saitama's power rather than an inherent weakness of God.

No, he has only SPECIFICALLY punched out the OPM Gods power when he did enough damage to the target. Like the fact that both times Saitama completely broke the shell on their head is pretty blatant.

This would get into weird NLF areas where people can try to apply it to abilities completely utterly different from Gods power-up under the false umbrella of "borrowed" or "divine" power. Like for example Sasuke's rinnegan could vaguely fall under a "borrowed divine power" umbrella because he got it from a being that people considered "a god", same with RoR characters and Volundr, but those work in such a different way that it'd be completely unreasonable to do so. Or, like Phoenks already did,

Idk what to tell you, that's how verse-equalization works man!



Overall, I don't really think you bring a good argument to the table. You are basically asking the series to spell out what would already be obvious to any passing viewer, and refusing to accept an interpretation of the material unless it is absolutely confirmed as such. I don't even think this is a particularly VSBW-ish claim. I watched a couple of reaction channels and even those guys have caught onto this being some unique ability of his that allows him to dispel the power of God.

 

[HammerStrikes219]

op looks good to me

Limited Power Nullification looks fine.

Looks fine for now, until it gets further clarification.

We got the three staff votes so we are technically good to go.

 

[DavidTPPM]

Blast disagrees

No he doesn't. Your headcanon interpretation of a vague scene disagrees but never did Blast say anything about him breaking the shell on Voids head and it not removing the power.
Hell Blast doesn't even have any known power null and we didn't see him try to use any on Garou so we have no reason to believe he wasn't just trying to break the shell himself, since yk, all he did against Garou was punches and portals.

What is your issue? The clear indication of this statement is that no amount of power/damage to Empty Void would have done this.

No? My issue is that this ISN'T a clear indication at all. He just says he couldn't achieve what someone thousands of times stronger did.

It's literally not baseless. We see his power escaping from his body.

Yes after the shell on his head took significant amounts of damage, just like we only see Garous power leave his body when the shell around his head suffered enough damage.

That's the indication of the dialogue. Why are you being disingenuous?

I'm not being disingenuous there's literally just nothing about the dialog hinting at power nullification.
A strong dude punches someone harder than a weak dude, damaging the shell covering his body and the power escapes out of the damaged/missing part of the shell. Then weak dude goes "wtf is up with that guy".

No power null, blatant "strong man breaks something weaker man couldn't"

God Weaknesses: Saitama.

Unironically possible given Saitama broke the limiters placed on him by God but that's not really what I'm saying.

More like "if you break the thing that contains gods power, that power will leave"

As funny as that would be, that is clearly not what it is lol. Saitama just has some weird power to remove God's influence over things.

Why didn't that mystical supee-power kick in the first 500 punches that he laid on Garou and only kicked in when he punched Garou who's thousands of times weaker?

It's almost like out of the 501 times Saitama punched an avatar of God they only lost gods power the 2 times that the shell around their head was almost if not completely destroyed.

Idk what to tell you, that's how verse-equalization works man!

For real man. Kids used to call me GOD because I was a
Goofy
Old
Baby
and now I borrowed my friend a multiversal+ glock. That makes it a "divine borrowed power" granting Saitama the ability to neg diff this multi+ fodder

Overall, I don't really think you bring a good argument to the table. You are basically asking the series to spell out what would already be obvious to any passing viewer, and refusing to accept an interpretation of the material unless it is absolutely confirmed as such. I don't even think this is a particularly VSBW-ish claim. I watched a couple of reaction channels and even those guys have caught onto this being some unique ability of his that allows him to dispel the power of God.

No, I'm asking the fans to not goon hax that don't exist by looking at 1/1000 of the manga, but to actually read the whole thing.

Because anyone who actually genuinely looks at the full context will notice Saitama punched Garou - an avatar of God, like 500 times on screen without him losing any power. And then the only 2 times the avatar did lose power is when their durability was thousands of times weaker than Saitamas AP and the shell on their head took the most damage.

You're calling me disingenuous but you're ignoring hundreds of contradictory examples to focus on 2 out of context examples. And I my opinion THAT is disingenuous.

 

[Phoenks]

Because anyone who actually genuinely looks at the full context will notice Saitama punched Garou - an avatar of God, like 500 times on screen without him losing any power. And then the only 2 times the avatar did lose power is when their durability was thousands of times weaker than Saitamas AP and the shell on their head took the most damage.

He also broke Garou's entire facemask without Garou losing any power btw.

Explicitly so, because God had to directly take them away from him afterwards.

So your whole argument of it being a power/strength issue doesn't hold any weight, nor is it about Garou having his armor on him. This was clearly something different from that.

 

[HammerStrikes219]

Also later on, we see Garou losing his cosmic power in Chapter 168 by Parallel Timeline Saitama’s Punch,

He (Cosmic Garou being literally feared by almost all heroes) was literally punched by Parallel Timeline Saitama after the time travel shenanigans done by Parallel Timeline Cosmic Garou and Parallel Timeline Saitama

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[DavidTPPM]

He also broke Garou's entire facemask without Garou losing any power btw.

I went over this already. The mask is noticeably more broken and keeps falling apart more and more when he punched present Garou, all it'd mean is that he needs to damage it to a certain extent. Which makes sense given present Garou is immensely less durable than future Garou.

But the funny thing is that while this scene does show Saitama slightly damaging his mask without PNing him, it also blatantly shows him punching Garou without any PN in general. So it contradicts both interpretations except mine can be reasonably explained.

So your whole argument of it being a power/strength issue doesn't hold any weight, nor is it about Garou having his armor on him. This was clearly something different from that.

Of course it was different. The difference was that Saitama damaged the shell fat more as his target was now far less durable.

That does explain why future Garou didn't get PNd without any issues but there's nothing even remotely close to explaining why Garou didn't get PNd despite all the countless punches from Saitama. Your own counter evidence contracts your claim way more than it contradicts mine

 

[HammerStrikes219]

If we gonna been fair about this, we know that Future Cosmic Garou was literally copying Future Saitama from the start of the Fight to the end of the fight with him being defeated.

As near the end of Chapter 166, we see Future Cosmic Garou literally copying Future Saitama from the get go while the Cosmic Garou getting the time travel punch was losing his power from Future Saitama’s time travel punch in one hit before the confrontation between Future Garou and Future Saitama in Parallel Timeline.

Heck, it is how Future Saitama and Future Cosmic Garou got all the busted haxes and AP to say the least

 

[Phoenks]

I went over this already. The mask is noticeably more broken and keeps falling apart more and more when he punched present Garou, all it'd mean is that he needs to damage it to a certain extent. Which makes sense given present Garou is immensely less durable than future Garou.

This is a terrible argument. What about the mask being 'more' broken changes anything? If it really was because of it being broken, then the energy would bee seeping out still. And like... it looks the same amount of broken to the viewer?! To the point that it can more reasonably be chopped up to a slight difference in the art. I am genuinely baffled you would even try to pull this... it was disingenuous before... but now, ???? Are you being serious?

This difference is completely negligable.

I'm going to actually go insane if I argue against this, because it's so silly I genuinely just can't... but it's already been accepted anyway so thankfully I do not have to...

 

[DavidTPPM]

This is a terrible argument. What about the mask being 'more' broken changes anything?

If you have a big container full of gas and you make a hole in it, will the gas escape? How about when you make the hole much bigger?

If it really was because of it being broken, then the energy would bee seeping out still. And like... it looks the same amount of broken to the viewer?!

It doesn't. Future Garous mask is not falling apart at all and isn't even fully broken on his forehead, present Garous mask is actively falling apart and is missing parts all the way to his hair.

To the point that it can more reasonably be chopped up to a slight difference in the art. I am genuinely baffled you would even try to pull this... it was disingenuous before... but now, ???? Are you being serious?

I'm disingenuous because I'm pointing out a blatant detail while you're super honest while ignoring like 500 contradictory punches, of course.

This difference is completely negligable.

That is YOUR headcanon, not a fact.
What ISN'T a headcanon is that out of the hundreds of attacks only 2 resulted in this level of damage to the shell and only those 2 resulted in the avatar losing the gods power, something that was SPECIFICALLY shown to be leaving through the hole in the shell as well.

I'm going to actually go insane if I argue against this, because it's so silly I genuinely just can't...

It's not silly to pay attention to details in the manga with probably THE most detailed art out of all ongoing mainstream mangas.
What is silly is to ignore all of THIS…

… not power nulling Garou

but it's already been accepted anyway so thankfully I do not have to...

Sure bro. I'm the suuuuuper disingenuous one but you're just causally going to ignore hundreds of contradictory attacks and dismiss the one detail the only 2 supportive attacks share. Peak argumention ngl

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

Notice how he (purposedly?) ignored the fact that, for Empty Void, his monster vessel was broken  after the God power left him, as I have previously shown. Meaning his argument of a vessel containing some gas that leaves when broken is false.

Not to mention Empty Void's vessel was less damaged than Future Garou's when the power left. If damaged at all.

And, well, your "500, thousands of punches" that are being "ignored" are just… 10? 20? Which are the punches that happened in the future fight between Saitama and Cosmic Garou and connected to the latter's face. Exaggerating numbers does not help your argument.

The reason why Future Garou's powers were not nullified is unknown. Maybe Saitama developed the ability later, as a consequence of using a God ability and he bestowed it to his present self by fusing. Maybe he gained it due to his wish to prevent the abominable future. Or maybe it is something else. For now, the cause is unknown, as God's arc has not even begun.

It could also be a retcon. Previous to this redraw of Ninja arc, Void was supposed to be the one taking Garou's power out of him to absorb it. Remember than between Future Garou fight and this episode ~2 years have passed.

But you trying to exaggerate what supports your point and minimize or directly ignore what goes against it is a dishonest way to argue, if you ask me.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Since that we have enough agreements, how exactly should I word it on the profile?

 

[MrTayman616]

Limited Power Nullification (Can remove divine power out of God's avatars)

or something like that imo.

Anything should be fine as long as it explains it being limited to divine power

 

[Epiccheev]

Maybe something to note it also reverts physical states like monsterization.

 

[MrTayman616]

Maybe something to note it also reverts physical states like monsterization.

It would be purification.

which make sense as he also severed the connection between him and God, who was controlling his mind.

Type 1 and 2 purification i guess.

 

[Bernkastelll]

uh i cant update the profile, when I try to add the whole thing gets messed up

 

[Vietthai96]

so uhhh, how the suppose "power nullification" work??

1. Saitama punched and removed/erased/destroyed his opponent power

2. Saitama punched and his opponent's power leak out??, in the Garou scan @Phoenks posted it seem the power was leaked out

 

[Bernkastelll]

2. Saitama punched and his opponent's power leak out??, in the Garou scan @Phoenks posted it seem the power was leaked out

Nah, Blast did the same and couldnt take God's power out of Empty Void, that's a power that Saitama has

 

[Phoenks]

so uhhh, how the suppose "power nullification" work??

1. Saitama punched and removed/erased/destroyed his opponent power

2. Saitama punched and his opponent's power leak out??, in the Garou scan @Phoenks posted it seem the power was leaked out

Saitama punches God avatars and their powers start leaking out of them, basically nullifying the powers they were bestowed by God and purifying them.

It's just the visual effect of it happening.

Saitama punched void and his powers came out (Same thing happened to Garou). We also see here that it actually happens BEFORE the mask broke lol.

 

[Vietthai96]

Alright, i just asked to see what kind of abilities could fit for this

Anyway, look like Saitama punch and his opponent power was leaked out, more like God power in those guys

Well i'm leaninh toward Purification Type 2 since God Power wasn't exactly....you know......erased/destroyed or sealed away and make Saitama enemies unable to use power, the power is still there, but leaked out.

Well, but if mods settle on Limited Power Nullification, i'm fine with it too

 

[Damage3245]

Maybe just Purification would this better than Power Nullification.

 

[DavidTPPM]

Notice how he (purposedly?)

Lol. Lmao even.

ignored the fact that, for Empty Void, his monster vessel was broken  after the God power left him,

No? It fell off his face afterwards sure, but that doesn't mean it wasn't broken already.
I mean he also lost power loooong after Saitamas punch so if anything it slowly coming apart due to how much Saitama damaged it is consistent with it took him a long time to lose power.

Not to mention Empty Void's vessel was less damaged than Future Garou's when the power left. If damaged at all.

I'd love to see that proved because as far as I can see we didn't get a solid shot of Voids head until after it completely shattered off of it.
We did get 2 shots of Void and in neither could we see his face properly. I mean we literally don't even see the teeth or ****** up eyes that were clearly still in the mask in them so they're not exactly reliable evidence

And, well, your "500, thousands of punches" that are being "ignored" are just… 10? 20?

It's about 25-27 when counting the ones we see blatantly land but like 500 more happen during the Io feat.
We see that with each jump Saitama hits Garou in the face

And our FTL+ Saitama calc confirms Saitama made at least 719 individual jumps on screen and equal amount off screen

One-Punch Man - Saitama and Garou Jump Around Io

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So even if we were to for some reason assume Saitama jumped 2/3 for absolutely no reason without punching Garou that'd still mean he punched him about 500x without power nulling him. Hell if you assume he did 90% of the jumps completely pointlessly without hitting Garou that's still about 150+ punches that landed on Garou with no power nullification.

Which are the punches that happened in the future fight between Saitama and Cosmic Garou and connected to the latter's face. Exaggerating numbers does not help your argument.

I don’t need to exaggerate anything because a single punch not PNing him would already be a defeating contradiction.

Although I do find it funny that you watched Saitama jump 1400+ times around Io while attacking Garou and concluded this entire scene + everything before and after only comes out at about 10-20 punches landed but you're accusing me of exaggerating.

The reason why Future Garou's powers were not nullified is unknown. Maybe Saitama developed the ability later, as a consequence of using a God ability and he bestowed it to his present self by fusing. Maybe he gained it due to his wish to prevent the abominable future. Or maybe it is something else. For now, the cause is unknown, as God's arc has not even begun.

That argument completely relies on the presumption that Saitama undeniably has power nullification. In other words you're proving Saitama has power null by saying Saitama has power null which circular reasoning at its best.

What is not confirmed is the reason why Garou and Void lost power. What isn't unconfirmed is that Saitama punched an avatar of God dozens if not hundreds of times without power nulling him.

It could also be a retcon. Previous to this redraw of Ninja arc, Void was supposed to be the one taking Garou's power out of him to absorb it. Remember than between Future Garou fight and this episode ~2 years have passed.

Garou vs Saitama wasn't redrawn and if you argue it was you also decanonize the SP² feat, Garou scaling to Saitama, and Saitamas martial arts as well as his accelerated development.

So are you saying that we should go off of your headcanon about the whole Garou vs Saitama fight being retconned and downgrade Saitama back to high 6-A and FTL?

But you trying to exaggerate what supports your point and minimize or directly ignore what goes against it is a dishonest way to argue, if you ask me.

It's so dishonest to not ignore countless examples of Saitama punching an avatar of God without any power nullification instead of focusing on 2 punches after which the avatars lost power due to unknown reasons.

Maybe you're right and Saitama didn't punch Garou a single time during this entire feat

Maybe it is "just" TWENTY CONTRADICTIONS.
After all what is 20+ contradictions in the face of a fan interpretation of 2 vague unexplained scenes?

I mean that's just how it is right? The moment anything even remotely supports an upgrade it's "blatant evidence" no matter how vague it is, but when it doesn't it's "just 20 contradiction" we can just make up more headcanons to ignore them.

 

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It's just common sense at this point. Though it’s probably not always active just like his other fist that allows him to travel in time, so it should be clarified