Saitama Power Nullification (Hax addition CRT)

[Bernkastelll]

Saitama can remove God's powers from its avatars, as stated by Blast in chapter 203

Agree: Damage3245 (purification, not powernull), Maverick_Zero, Phoenks, Nierre Justanormalperson01, Pluto321, Alexander, Eppicheev, Quangotjokes, Nanina92

Disagree:

 

[KaramcaS]

It might have been because void pushed himself too hard

I don't see any clear evidence that Saitama actually did anything like that. At least not in this panel.

 

[Bernkastelll]

It might have been because void pushed himself too hard

I don't see any clear evidence that Saitama actually did anything like that. At least not in this panel.

Check what Blast said.

"it doesn't matter how much I tried to supress void, i couldn't take god's power out of him", it has nothing to do with void pushing himself too hard, Blast himself asks afterwards "what the hell is his fist?".

It has nothing to do with Void nor with Garou (saitama took god's power from both), it is something that has to do with Saitama.

 

[Bernkastelll]

bump

 

[Bernkastelll]

bump

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

Yeah, this is pretty straightforward.

It also cannot be because Empty Void pushed himself too hard. As Blast stated, he couldn't take away God's powers of him no matter what he tried and, in the same panel, we see the flashback of when they fought in the past (which, unless the endless retcons of the ninja arc retconed that too, caused Empty Void to be so injuried he needed to rest and heal for several years). Meanwhile Saitama just punched him on the face and Empty Void regained the consciousness in a little amount of time.

 

[Kin201]

That could have just been a specific weakness to God's power. It's hard to argue this would work on abilities from other verses.

 

[Bernkastelll]

That could have just been a specific weakness to God's power. It's hard to argue this would work on abilities from other verses.

It can't be a weakness because Blast tried to remove God's power and nothing worked

 

[Pluto321]

Meanwhile Saitama just punched him on the face and Empty Void regained the consciousness in a little amount of time.

this seems fine but can share the scan this statement.

 

[Kin201]

It can't be a weakness because Blast tried to remove God's power and nothing worked

Think of it like Saitama has a Pokémon-type advantage against God. This makes sense in-universe since he's referred to as someone who turns his fist against God.

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

this seems fine but can share the scan this statement.

Chapter 201, Chapter 202

 

[Bernkastelll]

this seems fine but can share the scan this statement.

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

That could have just been a specific weakness to God's power.

Tbf, there is no proof of it being a specific weakness of God's power. This seem more of a stretch than anything else.

It's hard to argue this would work on abilities from other verses.

Basically, Saitama can take out abilities given by blessing/divine energy or that work similar to God's power by punching the user in the face, per SBA.

 

[Pluto321]

Chapter 201, Chapter 202

Ok, so i check the manga chapters and it's power nullification against God

 

[Bernkastelll]

Basically, Saitama can take out abilities given by blessing/divine energy or that work similar to God's power by punching the user in the face, per SBA.

This will be... interesting.

 

[Alexander]

Think of it like Saitama has a Pokémon-type advantage against God. This makes sense in-universe since he's referred to as someone who turns his fist against God.

then that will mean Saitama has that ability and only he has it, no one else has it

 

[Alexander]

Accepted, also it probably means that Saitama didn't lose the power of himself from the future, just the memories

 

[Epiccheev]

Post-Crisis Superman has a very similar feat where he can cut off empowerment from external forces using his laser vision.
It's listed as limited power null. I'd say Saitama's goes a bit further since it not only cuts the active empowerment part but reverts it's effects entirely, even achieving demonsterization.

 

[Alexander]

Post-Crisis Superman has a very similar feat where he can cut off empowerment from external forces using his laser vision.
It's listed as limited power null. I'd say Saitama's goes a bit further since it not only cuts the active empowerment part but reverts it's effects entirely, even achieving demonsterization.

then basically yes power nullification

 

[MrTayman616]

This is a power null ability. But it has more to it imo. (Like body/mind/soul purification etc)

Might be better to wait for the arc revision thread before talking about this feat.

 

[Quangotjokes]

I agree, pretty blatant.

 

[Yanina92]

Agree

 

[Bernkastelll]

bump

 

[Damage3245]

Looks fine for now, until it gets further clarification.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Looks fine for now, until it gets further clarification.

How many votes the thread requires?

 

[Bernkastelll]

bump

 

[Kachon123]

This can probably be added? It's a minor CRT and it has one admin agreement.

 

[Bernkastelll]

This can probably be added? It's a minor CRT and it has one admin agreement.

Alright, i'll add it then

 

[Bernkastelll]

wait i think we need 2 votes instead of 1

 

[MrTayman616]

wait i think we need 2 votes instead of 1

One vote is enough if the addition is simple and straightforward. (as far as i know)

 

[Bernkastelll]

One vote is enough if the addition is simple and straightforward. (as far as i know)

I see, i'll add it then, ty

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

OP seems reasonable to me.

 

[Alexander]

so is this accepted?

 

[DavidTPPM]

Well firstly, I really don't think this is even close to being straightforward enough for 1 vote. Power null like this can be an extremely big ability and OPM is one of the verses that needs 3 votes for regular CRTs to begin with.

Secondly, I don't think this is enough to suggest power null. Saitama punched Garou repeatedly without nullifying his power and in both cases the outer shell created by God around Void and Garou was very significantly damaged when the power seeped out of them. The context and anti-feats suggest more so that destroying the shell enough results in the power leaving the vessels and that Blast just failed to do sufficient damage to achieve that rather than yk, some haxy power null.

 

[MrTayman616]

Secondly, I don't think this is enough to suggest power null. Saitama punched Garou repeatedly without nullifying his power and in both cases the outer shell created by God around Void and Garou was very significantly damaged when the power seeped out of them. The context and anti-feats suggest more so that destroying the shell enough results in the power leaving the vessels and that Blast just failed to do sufficient damage to achieve that rather than yk, some haxy power null.

No. Blast states that no matter how he overpowered Void, it didn't happen. Blast damaged Empty Void to the point of making him look like this and that's while he's in a recovery capsule.

Also that's not all. Saitama broke parallel timeline Garou's shell as well which didn't do anything to his powers.

Blast makes it clear that Saitama is the odd one here.

 

[DavidTPPM]

No. Blast states that no matter how he overpowered Void, it didn't happen. Blast damaged Empty Void to the point of making him look like this and that's while he's in a recovery capsule.

Sure he damaged him, but his face shell is still seemingly completely intact which seems to be the part of the shell Saitama broke both of the times.

Like you can clearly see the teeth of the shell alongside the dark "skin" meaning the shell is still fully intact over his entire head, unlike after Saitamas punch which visibly removes it completely.

Also that's not all. Saitama broke parallel timeline Garou's shell as well which didn't do anything to his powers.

He just didn't break it enough. Obviously Saitama did less damage to parallel timeline Garou than to someone more than 18x less durable (actually according to the wiki there's like a 1000x+ difference in their durability but whatever)

We see that PT Garou still had the shell over most of his forehead and his entire hair while AGs shell was immediately broken all over his entire face +hair and was crumbling apart all over the rest of his head

Blast makes it clear that Saitama is the odd one here.

Yeah he's odd, because he has the power to do enough damage to the shell containing Gods power. Which Blast clearly failed to do as we can see in the healing pod.

 

[Alexander]

man you are doing a mental gymnastic and trying to say that enough power is able to nullify the powers of god (no proof for this)

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

We see that PT Garou still had the shell over most of his forehead and his entire hair while AGs shell was immediately broken all over his entire face +hair and was crumbling apart all over the rest of his head

This is false. Garou's face was the same as his parallel time self right after getting punched by Saitama, in every single panel until the A-Class heroes destroyed it by beating him up (you can literally see fragments of his monster shell coming up because of the punches of the A Class heroes). So, it being more broken is not the cause of Saitama's punch.

 

[DavidTPPM]

This is false. Garou's face was the same as his parallel time self right after getting punched by Saitama, in every single panel

You can blatantly see the shell is missing from his entire face up until like halfway through his hair in all of those panels and is slowly breaking apart even further

 

[MrTayman616]

Like you can clearly see the teeth of the shell alongside the dark "skin" meaning the shell is still fully intact over his entire head, unlike after Saitamas punch which visibly removes it completely.

While his body is in holes like it is biological. Even if we say "so only the face must be broken", it still doesn't make any sense at all.

Obviously Saitama did less damage to parallel timeline Garou than to someone more than 18x less durable (actually according to the wiki there's like a 1000x+ difference in their durability but whatever)

Because he's stronger than before? But then, Saitama broke parallel timeline Garou's shell with a serious punch while being extremely casual against the Garou here. Not only that but it doesn't seem different visually at all.

We see that PT Garou still had the shell over most of his forehead and his entire hair while AGs shell was immediately broken all over his entire face +hair and was crumbling apart all over the rest of his head

No, it was only his face. After he was beaten, other heroes hit him until some other parts of him were broken. Saitama only affected his face like the parallel version.

Even then, it's not his entire hair as well. You can see it in every other page that comes after it.

Yeah he's odd, because he has the power to do enough damage to the shell containing Gods power. Which Blast clearly failed to do as we can see in the healing pod.

Blast's statements doesn't imply anything like this but shows it to be special.

Garou&Void's case and Blast's statement about it clearly shows it to be the case.

This is a straightforward upgrade if you ask me. Though how it's explained in the profile matters since Saitama doesn't just do it to everyone with some type of ability.