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Before we start here's a quick refresher just so we're in the same page:
So Avalon scaling is out and so is parallel world scaling, so now what? Well there is actually 1 thing that hasn't been accounted for yet and that's the Imaginary Number Space(AKA Void Space).

What is the Imaginary Number Space?
The Imaginary Number Space is an alternate space within the Reverse Side of the World that has also been referred to as the "Sea of Time". Since this is a higher-dimensional plane that's cut off from Human Texture's space and time it is naturally unaffected by the Quantum Time-Lock phenomenon that governs parallel worlds.. With that said, unlike the Throne of Heroes and Avalon the Void Space can actually be accessed by the Human Texture(3D) so I think it's safe to say that this dimension is a solid 4D.

So where in the tier 2 scale would this be?
Well first of all this dimension has all the qualities of a universe as it has:

So it would at minimum be a solid Low 2-C
Also due to being unobservable this space is a pool of chaos much like the primordial chaos wherein all possibilities exist in it. This is also supported by the fact that all possibilities exist in the Inner Sea of the Planet. So overall I'd say this is enough for a "Likely 2-A" rating.

So in conclusion the Imaginary Number Space would be "At least Low 2-C, likely 2-A".

Scaling

For this section I'm gonna split this into 3 sections: hax only, full scaling, and uncertain.

Hax only:
The following characters have powers/abilities that scale to the Imaginary Number Space, but don't scale to it physically.
  • Dark Sakura (she has Hollow(aka the Imaginary Element of Imaginary Numbers) as her Origin and Elemental Affinity and utilizes it via her Cursed Boundary Layer spell.)
  • Tamamo-no-Mae(Base) (sealed the Tamamo Nine in the Imaginary Number Space and can also use the Cursed Boundary Layer)
  • Passionlip(Her Breast Valley is an Imaginary Number Space pocket)
  • Katsushika Hokusai(her Noble Phantasm can alter the Imaginary Number Space)
  • Trisha Fellows(uses Imaginary Number Magecraft.)
Full Scaling
The following will fully scale to the Imaginary Number Space:
  • Moon Cell(The Far Side of the Moon is a Imaginary Number Space)
  • BB{Moon Cancer}(Merged with the Moon Cell thus she scales to it.)
  • Kiara Sessyoin(Absorbed BB{Moon Cancer} so naturally she scales to her, while her Beast III/R key scales to her Fate/Extra counterpart)
  • Servants with their Mythological Mystic Code released(They are stated to have "the same fundamental truth" as BB{Moon Cancer})
  • Amaterasu (Upscales from Tamamo-no-Mae{Mythological Mystic Code released})
  • Sefar (scales to Amaterasu)
  • Zeus{Merged Form}(Was able to fight Sefar to a draw)
Uncertain Scaling
I'm not sure if these one's would fully scale or not:
  • Tiamat (Even if the Sea of Life is destroyed it will reemerge from her body, which makes me think that she might physically scale to it.)
  • BB{Base}(Has Authority over the Far Side of the Moon, but I'm not sure if this would physically scale to her)
  • Van Gogh (15% of her Spirit Origin is a "Black box" of Imaginary Numbers, and she can use Imaginary Number Arts)
  • Vulthoom (an Outer God known as the Evil God of Flowers. I honestly have no clue about this one)
  • Storm Border has at least six Virtual Triton Engines which can draw power from Imaginary Number Space to power certain armaments(this one probably scales to it's AP, though I'm not sure if it would scale to any other of it's stats)
That's all for now.
 
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Trisha's elemental affinity was for Imaginary Numbers, she remembered. Imaginary


Numbers space, where "nothingness" existed as an actual thing, was something like a


dimensional pocket, a place where objects would be freed from interaction with the


flow of space and time.

"Ah, yes, yes. Trisha's head was not yet dead when Olga Marie took it out of the pocket of


the void. After all, time stands still within the Imaginary Numbers space. Yes, with not


enough time to even write a single word, I can say that she opted for the perfect dying


message. With her final breath left in her throat, what do you think was her final word?"
 
I understand that you need to advance your agenda... However, to say something about your own clumsy articles. Which no one has accepted yet... That's another level.
The thread I linked got 3 staff votes, what do you mean?

Combat the points used instead of worthlessly crying out about “agenda”. Is any dissenting point “agenda” to you? Do you lack any sort of self awareness? Be more like the OP of this thread. At least they’re bringing up something of value.
 
Clearly, having 3-4 staff agreement is not enough for it to pass, even without opposition; she should have waited till she had at least 1 Head bureaucrat, 3 bureaucrats, 3 super mods, 22 admins, 18 thread mods supporting the thread.

Honestly, though, does this bring any new scans or should this be closed due to the 3-month rule?
 
Clearly, having 3-4 staff agreement is not enough for it to pass, even without opposition; she should have waited till she had at least 1 Head bureaucrat, 3 bureaucrats, 3 super mods, 22 admins, 18 thread mods supporting the thread.

Honestly, though, does this bring any new scans or should this be closed due to the 3-month rule?
The arguments presented here are somewhat novel, so this can stay open. (Though I’m pretty sure I’ve addressed bits and pieces of OP’s arguments made by other people at a time in other threads.)
 
As accepted here, https://vsbattles.com/threads/the-death-of-mystery-infinity-in-type-moon.181433/page-5

Infinity doesn’t physically exist. And the INS has no time, meaning that it isn’t even a space-time continuum, but a 4D space. (Which iirc, doesn’t qualify for tier 2.)
Yes I'm aware, but the thing is the evidence you used in your CRT only refer to the Human Texture and Parallel Worlds, so all this does is prove that infinity is impossible in the base reality due to it's enforcement of the laws of physics. With that said, I don't think you can use this to disprove infinity existing in the Imaginary Number Space.

The Paper Moon, this dialogue, and the fact that this dimension was reffered to as the "Sea of Time" all seem to support time existing in this realm, it's just that it's unobservable much like the space itself.
Trisha's elemental affinity was for Imaginary Numbers, she remembered. Imaginary


Numbers space, where "nothingness" existed as an actual thing, was something like a


dimensional pocket, a place where objects would be freed from interaction with the


flow of space and time.
Click to expand...
"Ah, yes, yes. Trisha's head was not yet dead when Olga Marie took it out of the pocket of


the void. After all, time stands still within the Imaginary Numbers space. Yes, with not


enough time to even write a single word, I can say that she opted for the perfect dying


message. With her final breath left in her throat, what do you think was her final word?"
Click to expand...
The thing is this doesn't really disprove the existence of time in this dimension, as all this would mean is that time in this dimension doesn't abide by the Human Texture's Concept of Time(i.e. "Time Within Conscious Recognition") which is supported by the fact that the Imaginary Number Space is stated to have it's own laws.
 
Where is the scans for the scaling parts? There's no references to It.
Reference? I didn't think I needed to put any since the only thing that section is for is listing who scales and who doesn't. Plus several of the one's I listed don't even have profiles.
 
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Reference? I didn't think I needed to put any since the only thing that section is for is listing who scales and who doesn't. Plus most of the one's I listed don't even have profiles.
It would be helpfull tho, Nasuverse is very big verse, so is important to fact check if the characters you listed actually scale or not.
 
By the way, does anyone have any thoughts on where the ones under "Uncertain Scaling" should be placed?
 
The thread I linked got 3 staff votes, what do you mean?

Combat the points used instead of worthlessly crying out about “agenda”. Is any dissenting point “agenda” to you? Do you lack any sort of self awareness? Be more like the OP of this thread. At least they’re bringing up something of value.
3 votes is now the topic accepted?
 
What? U Literally don't have a single staff vote? Contrary to that, u have one staff's vote(wankbreaker) against the thread right now lol.
Wank is not a staff he is a translation helper but he was asking for wank thread not for his
 
Wank is not a staff he is a translation helper but he was asking for wank thread not for his
She literally has "vs battles" tag right below her name. U can also check the staff members in "members" and find her at the end of the list.
 
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...I don't even know how to perceive this?
Kinda simple actually, u need staff's vote to get a thread accepted and apply it. "Staff" in question being administrators, bureaucrats, mods, super mods, etc. What you have right now is 3 votes from regular users, these votes can't be used to get a thread accepted.
 
Kinda simple actually, u need staff's vote to get a thread accepted and apply it. "Staff" in question being administrators, bureaucrats, mods, super mods, etc. What you have right now is 3 votes from regular users, these votes can't be used to get a thread accepted.
Okay. Useful information if I ever create a topic.
 
I'll refrain from evaluation until the raw Japanese scans are linked.
The arguments presented here are somewhat novel, so this can stay open. (Though I’m pretty sure I’ve addressed bits and pieces of OP’s arguments made by other people at a time in other threads.)
I don't suppose you have some of them on hand?
 
I'll refrain from evaluation until the raw Japanese scans are linked.
Raw Japanese scans? The links I'm using come from this wiki's Nasuverse character profiles and the Servant Physiology page(i.e. Evidence already accepted as true) so I didn't think any of that was still needed.
 
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