• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.

Record Of Ragnarok Discussion Thread #1



well.... speed of the bullet id nothing to loki and even summons clones and a sgield while the bullet is in close ranges
 
86553807_1453_2100_593224.webp
 
Okay i finally have the time to get back on this but thank god they established that Gods in general can easily react to bullets after the Simo stuff lmao
 
super fast punch that also does time stop is the most general way to describe it
May I ask for your opinion on this?

"No it does not, TFTST is not a Rasengan which you can hold on to, run up to your opponent and smash their face in with it.
You took a punch with infinite speed and is currently trying to convince us that it is some kind of battering ram that runs at infinite speed and can strike someone from 4 kilometers away at any time for goodness sake. ('- 'll)" ~Greatsage13th

"That is literally what Zeus did, just in a similar distance. He used the TFTST move to charge to Adam WHILE holding on to the fist. He kept his infinite speed during his time traveling the distance between him and Adam, the only difference is the range is wider here but considering Adam literally has infinite speed that means nothing, literally nothing as infinite speed would cover the same distance without any difference on the time." ~Razor
 
May I ask for your opinion on this?

"No it does not, TFTST is not a Rasengan which you can hold on to, run up to your opponent and smash their face in with it.
You took a punch with infinite speed and is currently trying to convince us that it is some kind of battering ram that runs at infinite speed and can strike someone from 4 kilometers away at any time for goodness sake. ('- 'll)" ~Greatsage13th

"That is literally what Zeus did, just in a similar distance. He used the TFTST move to charge to Adam WHILE holding on to the fist. He kept his infinite speed during his time traveling the distance between him and Adam, the only difference is the range is wider here but considering Adam literally has infinite speed that means nothing, literally nothing as infinite speed would cover the same distance without any difference on the time." ~Razor
not sure what the argument is, but if it's Zeus can use the punch from 4km away, it depends if he can see or sense people that far away. If he can he could just TFTST and hit them, assuming they aren't able to dodge or react in anyway since its infinite speed.

If Zeus can't sense or see people that far away then he wouldn't be able to hit them (Unless he's smart and pops it off and he'll have all the time in the world to look for that person. Considering Zeus can spam it with little to no charge if he wants he could just do that
 
not sure what the argument is, but if it's Zeus can use the punch from 4km away, it depends if he can see or sense people that far away. If he can he could just TFTST and hit them, assuming they aren't able to dodge or react in anyway since its infinite speed.

If Zeus can't sense or see people that far away then he wouldn't be able to hit them (Unless he's smart and pops it off and he'll have all the time in the world to look for that person. Considering Zeus can spam it with little to no charge if he wants he could just do that
Essentially, Razor (in a vs thread) is trying to say that Adam with TFTST can run up 4 entire kilometers with infinite speed and punch someone at that same speed. Is this something that TFTST can do? Because this seems HIGHLY blown out of proportions.
 
Essentially, Razor (in a vs thread) is trying to say that Adam with TFTST can run up 4 entire kilometers with infinite speed and punch someone at that same speed. Is this something that TFTST can do? Because this seems HIGHLY blown out of proportions.
Assuming he has the stamina and general care in the world to actually try which he technically could. Adam is more just wait back kinda guy so even if CAN do it, is it something he is WILLING or WILL do, since his whole thing is to wait for the opponent to make the first move.
 
Assuming he has the stamina and general care in the world to actually try which he technically could. Adam is more just wait back kinda guy so even if CAN do it, is it something he is WILLING or WILL do, since his whole thing is to wait for the opponent to make the first move.
Wait, so TFTST can actually allow anyone to run up to someone that far away and punch them before they could blink?
 
Wait, so TFTST can actually allow anyone to run up to someone that far away and punch them before they could blink?
We've never seen it used at such a distance since all RoR fights happen in enclosed spaces, but there is no restriction to it not being used that way. Just depends if the person is smart enough to use it that way or even cares to use it that way and if the person can see or sense them that far away.

In the case of Adam no, he cannot since he isn't able to see or sense someone that far, plus he doesn't fight like that
 
We've never seen it used at such a distance since all RoR fights happen in enclosed spaces, but there is no restriction to it not being used that way. Just depends if the person is smart enough to use it that way or even cares to use it that way and if the person can see or sense them that far away.

In the case of Adam no, he cannot since he isn't able to see or sense someone that far, plus he doesn't fight like that
Alrighty, thanks for the clarification. Now, I would have to convince Razor that such a move is so very out-of-character for Adam.
 
Alrighty, thanks for the clarification. Now, I would have to convince Razor that such a move is so very out-of-character for Adam.
I saw you mentioning cooldown. Doesn't that happen? After the FTST, Ares gives his vision of what happened. And for him, the moment Zeus forgot his fist, the blow had already been struck. Those "seconds" are time for drama and not that it was literally like that.
 
I saw you mentioning cooldown. Doesn't that happen? After the FTST, Ares gives his vision of what happened. And for him, the moment Zeus forgot his fist, the blow had already been struck. Those "seconds" are time for drama and not that it was literally like that.
The vision from Ares is after Ragnarok ends completely, post tournament interview if you will
 
I saw you mentioning cooldown. Doesn't that happen? After the FTST, Ares gives his vision of what happened. And for him, the moment Zeus forgot his fist, the blow had already been struck. Those "seconds" are time for drama and not that it was literally like that.
Yeah, my bad.
 
It does not surprise me in the slightest that Qin won that poll.
Kintoki coming in third place doesn't?


Loki's backstory starts off similar to Beelzebub, in which people believe he's a cursed god due to his mixed heritage and his mighty strength. Because of this, he's an edgy loner and dresses up like a punk. One day, he encounters the valkyries who are playing...By throwing fruit. Brünnhilde ends up accidentally throwing an entire watermelon at Loki, who catches it with his mouth and eat whole. Brünnhilde finds this act, or maybe its whatever Loki says after, to be funny causing her to laugh. Because Loki is unloved, he instantly falls in love with Brünnhilde since she was the first person to smile at him. Afterward, Loki decides to change who he is as a person and becomes a playful god who plays pranks, such as drawing on Forseti's face or stealing Mjölnir. Loki does all this to make Brünnhilde laugh because he loves that smile. When Loki is about to confess his love for Brünnhilde, he finds out that she's in love with Sigurd. So, of course, Loki does the reasonable thing after seeing this happy, engaged couple and decides to frame Sigurd of crimes. Disguising himself as Sigurd, Loki kills Fáfnir in front of some of Odin's servants. This causes Sigurd, who is with Brünnhilde and going directly to Odin to ask for his blessing in their marriage, to now be in trouble. Sigurd is now sent to prison for killing Odin's pet (Which he now claims that its actually because of his unique body type, according to previous chapters). Loki reveals himself to have been the one to report about Sigurd killing Fáfnir directly to Odin and is more than happy to see Sigurd in trouble. Later on, Loki is shocked to see that Brünnhilde kind of hates him and has no desire to smile at him. When Brünnhilde announces that she intends on challenging the gods to Ragnarok, Loki is shocked and is later seen stalking Brünnhilde during the Incubus scene. He's about to intervene before Thor shows up and killing Incubus before he does. Back in present times, "Loki's" corpse hits the ground, much to the shock of the audience, but in actuality that isn't him. Instead, Loki is a rabbit hiding behind a tree that is right behind Simo. Loki removes his disguise before announcing that he's found Simo.
this-chapter-have-50-60-pages-v0-12nhjp67113f1.jpeg


s2nlk4hdd13f1.jpeg

found-you-v0-e6doe35x223f1.png

The Assassin gods try jumping Indra, it doesn't work out. Indra explains that its because he comes from a bad neighborhood and is used to people trying to jump/ambush him. His fighting style is actually designed specifically for fighting multiple opponents at once because of this. His fighting style is called Vajra and he easily beats the three beasts. Indra has no intention of killing the three, but Xanwu and the others are determined to stop Indra from entering the arena, with Xanwu wrapping a whip around Indra's torso to stop his movements. Back over in the arena, Zhuque is actually about to win on technicality, but decides to go against his plan for some reason and tells the announcer to stop. Indra beats off the three gods once more before sensing Zhuque's presence. Zhuque, who brought a camera with him, announces that he'll take Indra on right here in a 1v1 fight.
 

Not mine but is there anything in these RoR speed calcs someone else has done outside the site? It calcs Leonidas' instinct feat
 
In this chapter it's revealed that Loki had a strategy going into this fight since the beginning, all thanks to the fact that his ability, Heimskringla, has three hidden abilities. Along with being able to copy anything he touches, Loki can create exact clones of himself (which he did when he created that large army, masking himself in the smoke. The clone has the exact same level of strength he does). He also can share a consciousness with the copies he makes, allowing him to see and experience what any of his army is seeing. His third secret ability is to swap places with any of his summons. His plan from the beginning was to have Simo be distracted with the army his clone created and land a sneak attack while his guard was down. But Loki had greatly miscalculated (which is in the title of the chapter, Miscalculation and Resolve) just how strong Simo was going to be. Now Loki finds himself in a bind; the clone he made had Andvaranaut, meaning that he's stuck with just five summons. He needs to find a way to approach Simo without alerting him in order to land the killing blow. But Loki finds himself unable to think of a way to approach Simo (and the clock is ticking since his copy's body will disappear soon, alerting Simo to the fact that Loki is alive). Loki eventually figures something out and is prepared to show Brünnhilde his resolve. What is seemingly a Heracles clone rushes toward Simo, who, in half a second, turns around, reloads, and fires a bullet at the Heracles duplicate (using his spleen this time). The bullet lands a fatal wound on the Heracles clone, piercing through its heart. Then, from behind Simo, Loki and a Thor copy burst out of the snow. With Simo's attention now on those two, he's unaware of the fact that Heracles copy was in fact the real Loki in disguise, who lies on the ground injured, stating that he'll be the one to land the killing blow.
 
so since its out, we know that Indra is so far likely the strongest of the apoc gods, although Wukong has only gone 15% so far and there are others that have yet to fight
 
I dont think Indra is the strongest tbh. Maybe the fastest (since he could also react to Cu Chulainn's Gae Bulg) and the best H2H but deff not the strongest
 
It takes Simo half a second to load, aim and fire his bullets... THE DOWNGRADES ARE INEVITABLE
 
It takes Simo half a second to load, aim and fire his bullets... THE DOWNGRADES ARE INEVITABLE

Probably as fast as Simo in real life, if account about him are anything to go off of.

The bullet itself was said to move at "godspeed" but that doesn't mean much since Loki is basically unable to react to it, unlike the bullets that had a velocity of twice the speed of sound
 
The bullet itself was said to move at "godspeed" but that doesn't mean much since Loki is basically unable to react to it, unlike the bullets that had a velocity of twice the speed of sound
All of his bullets have the same speed, Loki probably just didn't try to dodge it while in the Heracles disguise to surprise Simo later.

Also I'm gonna try and calc him reacting to the bullet in 102.
 
It takes Simo half a second to load, aim and fire his bullets... THE DOWNGRADES ARE INEVITABLE

Literally just an antifeat. And its not measure of speed this time, as opposed to a timeframe.

Makes NO sense for Simo to be 'that slow', or for Loki to be that slow when hes hyped up as being shoulder to shoulder with Thor and Loki
 
All of his bullets have the same speed, Loki probably just didn't try to dodge it while in the Heracles disguise to surprise Simo later.

Also I'm gonna try and calc him reacting to the bullet in 102.

c82vU52.png

NNhxeLC.jpeg


Each of Simo's bullets have different effects such as Ilmatar being a spread shot or Lemminkäinen being a piercing attack. They noted the bullets speed here, so I'm guessing this bullet it faster compared to the others he fired (Which would make sense, since he's fighting an opponent at such a close range)
 
Literally just an antifeat. And its not measure of speed this time, as opposed to a timeframe.
Antifeat #236
Makes NO sense for Simo to be 'that slow', or for Loki to be that slow when hes hyped up as being shoulder to shoulder with Thor and Loki
I know bruh I'm trolling, I ain't gonna put Simo at average human lvl. They'll probably end up at around hypersonic depending on Loki reacting to the bullet
 
8d5ad314-3bf3-4f49-bbda-7c866c36e2aa.png

Screen20Shot202025-06-2920at209.png


Each of Simo's bullets have different effects such as Ilmatar being a spread shot or Lemminkäinen being a piercing attack. They noted the bullets speed here, so I'm guessing this bullet it faster compared to the others he fired (Which would make sense, since he's fighting an opponent at such a close range)
That link is broken.
 
Back
Top