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Little ''Hat'' Guy Versus The God-Killer

Conceptual destruction does not mean surpassing every concept. Conceptual destruction does not cover all conceptual levels. Not every concept has the same power, the same structure or the same existential level. The concepts that Aatrox interacts with are not at the same level as the essential form of Black Hat. Therefore, saying “5D can destroy conceptual entities” does not mean “it can surpass every conceptual structure”.
Can you reconcile this logic? If the concept is destroyed, the concept ceases to exist; it's that simple. BH demonstrates conceptual existence and can destroy conceptual existence in Aatrox, and what you say has no merit whatsoever. I would ask you to demonstrate that BH's existence has a scale beyond 4-D, because you are arguing that a 4-D concept could survive a nearly 5-D conceptual destruction. Seriously...

Yes, you're right, not all concepts are equally powerful. Celestials have a more powerful concept and existence, and based on this, I can't understand why Aatrox couldn't completely destroy BH. Nothing you said debunks my points.
 
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thanks for the tip and i will try to make better these profiles.
so which side u vote?
The one that deletes the multiverse by existing and thus murders it's opponent.

Your LoL thing has literally nothing to act while his body isn't there and can't regenerate well enough to actually fight back.
 
The one that deletes the multiverse by existing and thus murders it's opponent.
we have an immo 5 and e.e resistance for this assuming that their speeds are equal, Aatrox could wipe him out of existence in an instant, so I don't understand why Aatrox's body completely disappeared here.
[Darkin are incapable of dying as their concept no longer exists, and as a result they will survive even after the universe ends]
 
we have an immo 5 and e.e resistance for this assuming that their speeds are equal, Aatrox could wipe him out of existence in an instant, so I don't understand why Aatrox's body completely disappeared here.
Immortality type 5 is SURVIVING it, it does NOT mean said character can recover or act even when erased, it just means that unless you either apply the concept of death to a character or neg the immortality, you aren't ever killing them. AKA, Aatrox survives, but can't fight BH or recover to fight BH, thus being incapacitated

And Black Hat does NOT have passive EE, that's an active ability. It is AP with which he deletes the mutliverse by existing, there's a difference.
 
And Black Hat does NOT have passive EE, that's an active ability. It is AP with which he deletes the mutliverse by existing, there's a difference.
In this case, only ‘incon’ would remain, but such a situation would only be possible if it occurred in a Multiverse. On the other hand, even if that were the case, it would only be possible as long as it appeared, meaning that Aatrox could kill him from a distance using his Low 1-C range.
 
In this case, only ‘incon’ would remain, but such a situation would only be possible if it occurred in a Multiverse.
no, if Aatrox is incapacitated and cannot fight back, he is under a 24 hour timer to get to a point where he can fight back or he loses the match.
On the other hand, even if that were the case, it would only be possible as long as it appeared, meaning that Aatrox could kill him from a distance using his Low 1-C range.
Prove Aatrox can act while reduced to his constituent atoms to use this.
 
Victory Conditions: Death of the opponent, removing the opponent from the battlefield for at least one week (BFR), knocking the opponent out for at least one hour, or incapacitating the opponent by putting him in a state in which he can not harm the other fighter(s) for over a day, are to be assumed as victory conditions. ~ Standard Battle Assumptions
Put lightly, this either goes in Black Hat's favor or is inconclusive because he doesn't have the hax to kill Aatrox and Aatrox can't act to kill him.
 
Prove Aatrox can act while reduced to his constituent atoms to use this.
I don't need to prove it here, but if you say yes to destroying the Multiverse before Aatrox's attack, then you're right. That's why the only thing I've been asking you for all this time is how to destroy the Multiverse before Aatrox's attack. because, based on the key we’re using, it can only destroy its entire existence based on its appearance, and before that, Aatrox could attack it immediately. Additionally, Black Hat has no idea about Aatrox, so do you think his first attack will be to destroy the Multiverse? (I guess he’ll destroy the Multiverse without knowing anything about his inability to survive in space what a delightful man.)
 
Put lightly, this either goes in Black Hat's favor or is inconclusive because he doesn't have the hax to kill Aatrox and Aatrox can't act to kill him.
I am aware of what you are saying, but it is essential to understand the structure of VST and the variety of information about distance, knowledge, and characters. You are absolutely right about updating Aatrox's profile because even if I could prove these things now, they would not be valid since they are not in his profile.
 
I don't need to prove it here, but if you say yes to destroying the Multiverse before Aatrox's attack, then you're right. That's why the only thing I've been asking you for all this time is how to destroy the Multiverse before Aatrox's attack. because, based on the key we’re using, it can only destroy its entire existence based on its appearance, and before that, Aatrox could attack it immediately. Additionally, Black Hat has no idea about Aatrox, so do you think his first attack will be to destroy the Multiverse? (I guess he’ll destroy the Multiverse without knowing anything about his inability to survive in space what a delightful man.)
Multiverse level (His appearance in reality causes the end of all dimensions)

There's not much to argue with here, he passively deletes all dimensions on a 2-B scale. Aatrox doesn't have 2-B durability to not get mulched by that passive hit, even if it doesn't kill him.
 
There's not much to argue with here, he passively deletes all dimensions on a 2-B scale. Aatrox doesn't have 2-B durability to not get mulched by that passive hit, even if it doesn't kill him.
yesn't...
I'm still waiting for Aatrox's Low 1-C scaling, so I don't know, I'm going to bed for now, and I can think about closing this tomorrow.

And as I said, if you put a 2-A distance between them, it shouldn't be too difficult to tell who the winner is. (the main problem is distance ig)
 
yesn't...
I'm still waiting for Aatrox's Low 1-C scaling, so I don't know, I'm going to bed for now, and I can think about closing this tomorrow.

And as I said, if you put a 2-A distance between them, it shouldn't be too difficult to tell who the winner is. (the main problem is distance ig)
It'd also be a stomp at 2-A distance... or if incap is a viable wincon. Your best bet is incon, but... I must ask you to update all profiles that scale to the tier 1 crap in the same CRT that buffs them that way.
 
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