High School DxD Downgrade: Tier 2

[Digital_Franz]

I'm back (to this verse). Well, for the same page, accepted in this thread (again).

Currently I am going against the 2-C rating of worlds which is accepted for the following reason:

Not an actual place (that would be the Dimensional Gap), term that describes a collection of myth realms. 21 Universes for ExE and FxF (Parallel worlds to DxD), 22 universes for DxD (has Isolation Barrier.)

So actually myth realms are Universes. Fair enough.

From the cosmology page:

In conclusion, the mythological dimensions are at least 4-A, possibly Low 2-C.

What the hell is going on? So actually the rating should be Low 2-C, possibly 2-C.

Why are they possibly Low 2-C though?

The Kanji used for "Human World" (⼈間界) is not the same as the one Ishibumi used for "Earth" (地球) which would imply that the Underworld and Human Realm are of equal size. And this would apply to the other myth realms as well.

Got it translated and nah it isn't that.

We have this:

Yes. We started off with the secret about Great Red-san swimming in the dimensional gap. The extinct civilisation. The technology of the lost continent of Mu and the continent of Atlantis. We also searched on parallel universes. We also went to look at the Yggdrasill from Norse mythology. Also the anecdote of legendary strong people and the search for the Heroes or creatures whose status, either dead or alive, is currently unknown. Sometimes we do terrorism.

This is doubtful because the concept of parallel worlds/dimensions/universes does not seem to apply to these worlds according to the author's conception. Got it translated too.

Also, it should be mentioned that hell has fake celestial bodies, and nah this doesn't indicate the size.

We have this:

The Universe that the main cast live in, it is spatially and temporally separate from every other location.

Extraordinary claim without proof. Why? Let's get to the thing.

In the verse, we have insane feats like:

• A shockwave that crosses the Heavens
• A dragon makes its fireball travel between the Heavens
• A dragon moves between the Heavens
• Traveling from Earth to Heaven with a bicycle

The standards:

It should be recognized that travel between universes is not feasible unless through the use of a portal or similar unusual mechanisms. This is because it should be impossible for two distinct universes to be connected by a path that only goes through regular 3 dimensional space. Universes must be separated by something other than 3 dimensional distance or physical barriers, otherwise they would be considered to both be part of one large universe for our tiering purposes.

In fiction there are cases where a wall or some non-physical analog separates two realms. However, while such a barrier might serve to separate the realms within the cosmology of said fiction, note that the spaces are not necessarily separate universes by our standards. That is because, while the wall may make it difficult in practice, one could in theory still move from one realm to the other with just regular three dimensional movement. That means that the realms are still part of one common three dimensional space, which by our standards constitutes only one universe.

So all in all, these realms are part of the same universe.

Now, since these dimensions are shown to be part of the same universe, the destruction of said universe would be 3-A without the feat of destroying space-time in its entirety.

The world destruction statements do not indicate the destruction of space-time/timeline, and this one seems very relevant to this fact.

That's all for this thread.

 

[Robo432343]

YESSSSSSSSSSSS

 

[Grabbing_dragon]

This debunk is heaven compared to others, like Tensura's planet level and Nasuverse's solar system level.

 

[Dragongod224]

Extraordinary claim without proof. Why? Let's get to the thing.

 

[Digital_Franz]

In fiction there are cases where a wall or some non-physical analog separates two realms. However, while such a barrier might serve to separate the realms within the cosmology of said fiction, note that the spaces are not necessarily separate universes by our standards. That is because, while the wall may make it difficult in practice, one could in theory still move from one realm to the other with just regular three dimensional movement. That means that the realms are still part of one common three dimensional space, which by our standards constitutes only one universe.

This alone is enough. This points something.

Firstly, it is significant to understand that a universe, including space-time continuums and timelines, encompasses all three-dimensional space that can be accessed through regular movement within the universe. This means that any location that can be theoretically reached through conventional means of travel, such as spaceflight, would be considered part of the same universe and timeline, regardless of how the fiction portrays it. Movement between universes should only be feasible through extraordinary modes of transportation, such as portals, higher-dimensional movement, or teleportation. By default, it is assumed that universes have separate three-dimensional spaces, but if a piece of fiction demonstrates otherwise, destruction of several connected timelines would be rated as Low 2-C (Universe level+).

The bicycle~

 

[Dragongod224]

The bicycle~

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Ep 2 10:50 to full ep

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Can someone remind me again what seasons are "non-canon"?

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

This alone is enough. This points something.

Not commenting on the thread itself, but the bicycle is specially made by Azazel so what’s the issue? Heaven is in another dimension, much like the other mythological worlds, so it’s not possible that a normal bicycle can enter another dimension. The bicycle itself was confiscated for a reason.

I’m not sure what the second scan is supposed to represent.

 

[BlackeJan]

I’m not knowledgeable regarding 3A and above but I’m grateful that it’s again said that Hell has fake celestial bodies. This also could say that in the rating games that we see, everything that was made to create it is also fake which I pointed out in CRTs last time

Good job Digital

 

[Dragongod224]

Can someone remind me again what seasons are "non-canon"?

You read the novel the same thing happened in novel to

I forget to tell that the season 3 currently accepted canon

Emgur is fu** image is not uploading every time try to upload failed

 

[Digital_Franz]

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Ep 2 10:30 to full ep

I don't see anything at all, unless you gave me the wrong timeframe. At the very least, this needs to be explained, and I don't think the anime does.

Not commenting on the thread itself, but the bicycle is specially made by Azazel so what’s the issue? Heaven is in another dimension, much like the other mythological worlds, so it’s not possible that a normal bicycle can enter another dimension. The bicycle itself was confiscated for a reason.

The bicycle is special in that it travels at high speed, but the point is that it still performs a 3D movement, unless you mean it performs a 4D movement. The bicycle went into space at high speed and arrived in heaven, using the same mode of movement.

I’m not sure what the second scan is supposed to represent.

Well, just that the Dimensional Gap is in the world, and also it's also the Dimensional Wall.

 

[Dragongod224]

I don't see anything at all, unless you gave me the wrong timeframe. At the very least, this needs to be explained, and I don't think the anime does.

Sorry 10:50 and after that

you can clearly see that train go through a portal, in the novel its describe as similar to black hole

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

The bicycle went into space at high speed and arrived in heaven

Heaven is not physically located in outer space, or is that what you’re saying? Azazel already made a UFO that can go into outer space.

Heaven is in another dimension, so it’s not possible to arrive there ‘physically’. Not to mention, each faction has defenses that are supposed to prevent unwarranted access. That’s why Azi Dahaka’s ability to teleport into each of the mythological dimensions was an issue for them. The bicycle is clearly special.

For the bicycle to arrive there, it must have the ability to enter into other dimensions and also ignore their defensive measures.

 

[Digital_Franz]

Sorry 10:50 and after that

you can clearly see that train go through a portal, in the novel its describe as similar to black hole

Oh for the train, yeah but it doesn't help really. Reason below.

Not commenting on the thread itself, but the bicycle is specially made by Azazel so what’s the issue? Heaven is in another dimension, much like the other mythological worlds, so it’s not possible that a normal bicycle can enter another dimension. The bicycle itself was confiscated for a reason.

They are different dimensions, I don't deny this point, but I say that they are not spatio-temporally separated. Here is what the standards tell us:

In fiction there are cases where a wall or some non-physical analog separates two realms. However, while such a barrier might serve to separate the realms within the cosmology of said fiction, note that the spaces are not necessarily separate universes by our standards. That is because, while the wall may make it difficult in practice, one could in theory still move from one realm to the other with just regular three dimensional movement. That means that the realms are still part of one common three dimensional space, which by our standards constitutes only one universe.

 

[Digital_Franz]

Heaven is not physically located in outer space, or is that what you’re saying? Azazel already made a UFO that can go into outer space.

Heaven is in another dimension, so it’s not possible to arrive there ‘physically’. Not to mention, each faction has defenses that are supposed to prevent unwarranted access. That’s why Azi Dahaka’s ability to teleport into each of the mythological dimensions was an issue for them. The bicycle is clearly special.

For the bicycle to arrive there, it must have the ability to enter into other dimensions and also ignore their defensive measures.

Not that it's physically located in outer space, but they are physically part of the same space.

In fiction there are cases where a wall or some non-physical analog separates two realms. However, while such a barrier might serve to separate the realms within the cosmology of said fiction, note that the spaces are not necessarily separate universes by our standards. That is because, while the wall may make it difficult in practice, one could in theory still move from one realm to the other with just regular three dimensional movement. That means that the realms are still part of one common three dimensional space, which by our standards constitutes only one universe.

Note that this criteria of separation is only an argument against two realms being separate universes, if a feat of travel between the realms by regular 3D means occurs or it is otherwise known for certain that they are not separated in the above sense. If the realms fulfill the requirements laid out in the prior section and no such travel occurs, then the realms can be considered proper separate universes even if the means by which they are separated is not explored.

The bicycle is special in the sense that even with its 3D physical movement it can reach these realms. Yeah, they have defense systems for what reason? Because it's possible to get there with 3D means and they would have to prevent intruders from entering. Now teleportation is a pain for them precisely because they can't detect the guy before he enters.

 

[Dragongod224]

Bro now you going to say that ExE and FxF are the physically part of the same universe because those are separated by dimensional gap even though those dimension has their own space and time even hell and Haven has their own space and time as well other timeline to because they are separated dimensional gap

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

They are different dimensions, I don't deny this point, but I say that they are not spatio-temporally separated.

OK, but what does spatio-temporally separated mean, in this context? We know the Underworld had its own time flow/axis before the start of canon.

Now teleportation is a pain for them precisely because they can't detect the guy before he enters.

Anybody can teleport. The issue was that Azi Dahaka had knowledge of forbidden techniques that allowed him to bypass their defensive techniques. The average joe can’t teleport there.

Bro now you going to say that ExE and FxF are the physically part of the same universe because those are separated by dimensional gap even though those dimension has their own space and time even hell and Haven has their own space and time

What if they are? We don’t really know where any of those worlds are.

No need to bring them in, for now.

 

[Dragongod224]

What if they are? We don’t really know where any of those worlds are.

No need to bring them in, for now.

No timeline also are separated by dimensional gap so heaven are part of the same universe than other timelines as well

 

[Digital_Franz]

Bro now you going to say that ExE and FxF are the physically part of the same universe because those are separated by dimensional gap

They are literally in the same timeline, you should read your cosmology page.

even though those dimension has their own space and time even hell and Haven has their own space and time

Well you have to prove that they have their own space-times.

OK, but what does spatio-temporally separated mean, in this context? We know the Underworld had its own time flow/axis before the start of canon.

Being completely isolated from each other or if you want, that they are separate space-time continuums. For the flow of time, this does not indicate a separation, since even in the universe there are such variations of time.

Anybody can teleport. The issue was that Azi Dahaka had knowledge of forbidden techniques that allowed him to bypass their defensive techniques. The average joe can’t teleport there.

Yeah sure a feat for him.

 

[Dragongod224]

Is there app side from emgur to upload image the Imgur it not working so

 

[Digital_Franz]

Is there app side from emgur to upload image the Imgur it not working so

Gyazo but you can't have more than one image in a post like with imgur.

 

[Dragongod224]

They are literally in the same timeline, you should read your cosmology page.

They are parallel world so yah

Well you have to prove that they have their own space-times.

Being completely isolated from each other or if you want, that they are separate space-time continuums. For the flow of time, this does not indicate a separation, since even in the universe there are such variations of time.

i don't since you accept that they have their own time i need to proof the dimension are infinite in size

These are notes that the worlds are indeed universes; while they don't need all of these, at least one of them should indicate this.

If the size of the realms described has having infinite sizes or other synonyms, that should strongly indicate them being universes

https://i.gyazo.com/311fef66fabd58c576acfe5cadb4ad16.png

https://i.gyazo.com/824f342cb25aa5e0051a178c0ff2f581.png

I think this much enough

 

[Digital_Franz]

i don't since you accept that they have their own time i need to proof the dimension are infinite in size

Uh no. I said sure they are separated dimensions but they are not spatio-temporally separated.

These are notes that the worlds are indeed universes; while they don't need all of these, at least one of them should indicate this.

If the size of the realms described has having infinite sizes or other synonyms, that should strongly indicate them being universes

Sure but you should read the next part, what I'm actually using:

In fiction there are cases where a wall or some non-physical analog separates two realms. However, while such a barrier might serve to separate the realms within the cosmology of said fiction, note that the spaces are not necessarily separate universes by our standards. That is because, while the wall may make it difficult in practice, one could in theory still move from one realm to the other with just regular three dimensional movement. That means that the realms are still part of one common three dimensional space, which by our standards constitutes only one universe.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Universe
Note that this criteria of separation is only an argument against two realms being separate universes, if a feat of travel between the realms by regular 3D means occurs or it is otherwise known for certain that they are not separated in the above sense. If the realms fulfill the requirements laid out in the prior section and no such travel occurs, then the realms can be considered proper separate universes even if the means by which they are separated is not explored.

https://i.gyazo.com/311fef66fabd58c576acfe5cadb4ad16.png

https://i.gyazo.com/824f342cb25aa5e0051a178c0ff2f581.png

I think this much enough

OK, you want to prove that these are just universes (which so far is not valid), but you don't prove that they are spatiotemporally separated. Why aren't they? Back to the OP.

In the verse, we have insane feats like:

• A shockwave that crosses the Heavens
• A dragon makes its fireball travel between the Heavens
• A dragon moves between the Heavens

A shock wave can't travel through a separated space-time, so this is already an anti-feat for separation. Also, it is possible to travel through these Heavens with a simple 3D movement.

 

[Dragongod224]

A shock wave can't travel through a separated space-time, so this is already an anti-feat for separation. Also, it is possible to travel through these Heavens with a simple 3D movement.

I don't need to read op you need to

From the cosmology page:
In conclusion, the mythological dimensions are at least 4-A, possibly Low 2-C.

Heaven is one space time continue

About bicycle in this case is

the bicycle is specially made by Azazel so what’s the issue? Heaven is in another dimension, much like the other mythological worlds, so it’s not possible that a normal bicycle can enter another dimension. The bicycle itself was confiscated for a reason.


You're entire thread base on this

What the hell is going on? So actually the rating should be Low 2-C, possibly 2-C.

This is your own creation not exist in previous accepted op

 

[Digital_Franz]

I don't need to read op you need to

I guess I should.

About bicycle in this case is

the bicycle is specially made by Azazel so what’s the issue? Heaven is in another dimension, much like the other mythological worlds, so it’s not possible that a normal bicycle can enter another dimension. The bicycle itself was confiscated for a reason.

Specially made by Azazel doesn't mean anything. The only thing special about it is that it can fly, and therefore it's a one-way ticket to heaven.

So their bicycles made it all the way to Heaven huh…. In other words, they managed to break into Heaven like that!? It was only supposed to be me and Asia today, so how did we end up with two bicycles arriving in Heaven!? It was just so ludicrous that Xenovia and Mil-tan had managed to arrive in Heaven on bicycles! The park had become a launching ground for those attempting to infiltrate Heaven!

“Bicycles are amazing, Ise-san! They’re such special vehicles that they can even reach Heaven!”

You're entire thread base on this

What the hell is going on? So actually the rating should be Low 2-C, possibly 2-C.

This is your own creation not exist in previous accepted op

Don't start this please.

 

[Dragongod224]

Specially made by Azazel doesn't mean anything. The only thing special about it is that it can fly, and therefore it's a one-way ticket to heaven.

Then anyone can fly to heaven and hell just by that that they doesn't need to cross the dimension gap that separate the dimension and it's clearly shown in the Anime that without portal and teleportation you can enter dimension gap author need to cut the space to enter dimensional gap

If you season 3 is not canon then episode zero of season 4 also shown that

bicycle in this case is special and not a normal bicycle

Don't start this please.

Yes I am since you first bring that and base on that you bring this
A shockwave that crosses the Heavens
A dragon makes its fireball travel between the Heavens
A dragon moves between the Heavens

 

[Digital_Franz]

Then anyone can fly to heaven and hell just by that that they doesn't need to cross the dimension gap that separate the dimension and it's clearly shown in the Anime that without portal and teleportation you can enter dimension gap author need to cut the space to enter dimensional gap

If you season 3 is not canon then episode zero of season 4 also shown that

bicycle in this case is special and not a normal bicycle

Just because everyone can fly doesn't mean they can; there's no logical implication with what I said. First of all, most characters who can fly aren't that fast and just fly on earth, not space.

Well, the thing is, even though the Dimensional Gap exists and is the wall separating dimensions, it makes travel between dimensions difficult, but not impossible. There are many reasons for using teleportation, some of which were mentioned by @Burning_Full_Fingers above (the security systems).

That is because, while the wall may make it difficult in practice, one could in theory still move from one realm to the other with just regular three dimensional movement. That means that the realms are still part of one common three dimensional space, which by our standards constitutes only one universe.

Also, there's this feat on Issei's profile that's pretty convincing that these aren't separate space-times.

Tore open a hole in space to enter into a dimension created by Dimension Lost

Yes I am since you first bring that and base on that you bring this
A shockwave that crosses the Heavens
A dragon makes its fireball travel between the Heavens
A dragon moves between the Heavens

OK, it's still fine.

 

[Dragongod224]

Just because everyone can fly doesn't mean they can; there's no logical implication with what I said. First of all, most characters who can fly aren't that fast and just fly on earth, not space.

Well, the thing is, even though the Dimensional Gap exists and is the wall separating dimensions, it makes travel between dimensions difficult, but not impossible. There are many reasons for using teleportation, some of which were mentioned by @Burning_Full_Fingers above (the security systems).

No is not what I asked before I asked how bicycle inter dimension gap which is completely separate dimension without crossing that you can inter heaven or hell and it's clear that without cutting space, destroying space, creating portal, our teleportation you can enter dimension gap so you can't cross the dimension gap without entering dimension gap until you teleport directly to those realm so it's not physically directly entering heaven or hell it entering by magical things

It should be recognized that travel between universes is not feasible unless through the use of a portal or similar unusual mechanisms. This is because it should be impossible for two distinct universes to be connected by a path that only goes through regular 3 dimensional space. Universes must be separated by something other than 3 dimensional distance or physical barriers, otherwise they would be considered to both be part of one large universe for our tiering purposes.

Also, there's this feat on Issei's profile that's pretty convincing that these aren't separate space-times.

Yah it's make hole in dimension to enter which is considered similar portal creation

Also this is not separate space time it just pocket reality created inside dimension gap not space time continue

so I don't think it's make any sense to bring here

All i think you first have knowledge of dxd before creating those threads you don't read the novel and watch the dxd anime

OK, it's still fine.

now only thing you have is bicycle which is special in this case

 

[Digital_Franz]

No is not what I asked before I asked how bicycle inter dimension gap which is completely separate dimension without crossing that you can inter heaven or hell and it's clear that without cutting space, destroying space, creating portal, our teleportation you can enter dimension gap so you can't cross the dimension gap without entering dimension gap until you teleport directly to those realm so it's not physically directly entering heaven or hell it entering by magical things

OK, can you provide a scan where it says it's only possible to enter by these means? Because characters using only these means doesn't mean they're the only possible ones. What's stopping her from going to the end of the universe and then crossing the dimensional gap that's supposed to be there? And as I said in my previous post, just cutting the space is not enough.

Yah it's make hole in dimension to enter which is considered similar portal creation

Ayo this isn't Portal Creation, hell no. Making a hole in space is different from creating a Portal. A portal allows to move between space-times, making a simple hole in space does not. I've already mentioned this here.

Also this is not separate space time it just pocket reality created inside dimension gap not space time continue

so I don't think it's make any sense to bring here

Well, you guys don't treat this as just a Pocket Dimension but as a separate space-time because it's called a dimension like the others.

All i think you first have knowledge of dxd before creating those threads you don't read the novel and watch the dxd anime

Also fine.

now only thing you have is bicycle which is special in this case

Special, the only thing you got, but we need to know how it's special.

 

[Dragongod224]

OK, can you provide a scan where it says it's only possible to enter by these means? Because characters using only these means doesn't mean they're the only possible ones. What's stopping her from going to the end of the universe and then crossing the dimensional gap that's supposed to be there? And as I said in my previous post, just cutting the space is not enough.

Heaven is not physically located in outer space, or is that what you’re saying? Azazel already made a UFO that can go into outer space.

Or proof where is stated that heaven and other realms exit in outer space

If heaven is exist outside in outer space than how can we the heaven has infinite size with his own time

Ayo this isn't Portal Creation, hell no. Making a hole in space is different from creating a Portal. A portal allows to move between space-times, making a simple hole in space does not. I've already mentioned this here.

https://i.gyazo.com/39839265ea152c3c8080e13309f66f60.png it used great Red power great Red use this method to enter other dimension there is few more if you want I give them here

Well, you guys don't treat this as just a Pocket Dimension but as a separate space-time because it's called a dimension like the others.

No, no one is doing that for dimension lost it's only happened in innovate clear which is clearly stated creative fake universe with user can control the fate and destiny of the fake universe and its do not affecting the real world in anyway

 

[Digital_Franz]

Heaven is not physically located in outer space, or is that what you’re saying?

Yeah, I never said Heaven is physically located in outer space.

https://i.gyazo.com/39839265ea152c3c8080e13309f66f60.png it used great Red power great Red use this method to enter other dimension there is few more if you want I give them here

Doesn't really help regarding the whole space-time stuff. If you have anything about a portal and not just a hole in space you can drop.

No, no one is doing that for dimension lost it's only happened in innovate clear which is clearly stated creative fake universe with user can control the fate and destiny of the fake universe and its do not affecting the real world in anyway

Not affecting the real world doesn't mean it's spatio-temporally separated. Even what happens in Dimensional Lost doesn't affect the outside world, but it isn't spatio-temporally separated.

 

[Dragongod224]

Yeah, I never said Heaven is physically located in outer space.

Than where heaven exist to physically travel there

 

[Digital_Franz]

Than where heaven exist to physically travel there

I said they are in the same physical universe, not that Heaven is in the Human World.

 

[BlackeJan]

We need staff here or this won’t be concluded

 

[Dragongod224]

I said they are in the same physical universe, not that Heaven is in the Human World.

Heaven and hell infinity in size with it own time


In essence, this details the fact that there’s a void without concepts of distance and direction, the laws of physics, space, and time. This infinite void world is beyond all dimensions in High School DxD existing detached, but between from every dimension. that indicate the separation of space and time from these other dimensions.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

I said they are in the same physical universe, not that Heaven is in the Human World.

Oh, okay. Well yeah, they should be in the ‘same place’, just in different dimensions with their own time.

 

[Digital_Franz]

Heaven and hell infinity in size with it own time

Cough, this~

In essence, this details the fact that there’s a void without concepts of distance and direction, the laws of physics, space, and time. This infinite void world is beyond all dimensions in High School DxD existing detached, but between from every dimension. that indicate the separation of space and time from these other dimensions.

OK so? It's still the Dimensional Wall, and it also doesn't indicate a spatio-temporal separation. Worse, it's a void. While we're at it, can you find the part in the novel that matches what's described in the anime as having no concept of distance? Because on Discord a friend told me that this is something added by the anime and the TL. So I'd like scans from the novel.

Oh, okay. Well yeah, they should be in the ‘same place’, just in different dimensions with their own time.

You roughly get it, but I don't agree with the "their own time".

 

[Dragongod224]

Cough, this~

OK so? It's still the Dimensional Wall, and it also doesn't indicate a spatio-temporal separation. Worse, it's a void. While we're at it, can you find the part in the novel that matches what's described in the anime as having no concept of distance? Because on Discord a friend told me that this is something added by the anime and the TL. So I'd like scans from the novel.

So you saying that anime is not canon to dxd

Or can you explain to me how space time separate then

You roughly get it, but I don't agree with the "their own time".

There is clear statement about having time whether you accept or not it's don't change anything because in the novel it's clearly stated and even anime

 

[Dragongod224]

Also should be noted that in dxd when come to pseudo space then they clearly stated that while it's come to mythological world's like heaven and hell it's never stated that they are pseudo space but dimension with their own time

Having own time

 

[Digital_Franz]

Or can you explain to me how space time separate then

Each dimension should have its own timeline.

There is clear statement about having time whether you accept or not it's don't change anything because in the novel it's clearly stated and even anime

Also should be noted that in dxd when come to pseudo space then they clearly stated that while it's come to mythological world's like heaven and hell it's never stated that they are pseudo space but dimension with their own time

Having own time

Having its own time flow does not mean that it has "its own time", because even in our universe different places can have their own time flow.

It should be noted that variations in the flow of time, such as faster or slower rates, do not necessarily indicate the existence of separate universes or space-time continuums. This phenomenon can occur within a single universe or pocket dimension, and therefore does not serve as sufficient evidence for the existence of multiple universes or space-time continuums.

We need staff here or this won’t be concluded

Yeah.