Satoru Gojo (The Honored One) Vs Makima (The Control Devil) (Jujutsu Kaisen Vs Chainsaw Man) [49-37-7]

[Jaynic1]

In real world neurosurgery, a spontaneous or trauma induced intracerebral hemorrhage actually is far deadlier than a knife track that simply pierces the brain.
When an artery ruptures inside the cranial vault it releases pressurized blood into soft neural tissue that has almost nowhere to go. The expanding clot raises intracranial pressure within minutes which squashes adjacent brain structures, shuts off capillary perfusion and can force the brainstem downward in a terminal herniation cascade. Even if the initial bleed is modest, biochemical toxicity from iron, thrombin and glutamate sets off hours to days of secondary edema and cell death throughout the surrounding parenchyma.

By contrast, a classic brain stab creates a narrow and mostly linear tract. If the blade misses the deep brainstem or major vessels and ventricles, the damage is confined to a pencil thin corridor. Especially for Toji, the size of Gojo's injury was very, very minimal if you take a look at the scan.

I see, this does make the toji knife regen feat useless. And looking at the blood amount even when taking the illustration gege drew into account it seems makima's attack draws more blood from the brain damage gojo suffered. Im still not fully convinced one attack of this would insta kill gojo but there's a good chance. I think the deciding factor will be if makima will use the future devil. If she uses the future devil and she sees herself get pasted from an attack she cant see she'll for sure use this move but I dont remember her ever actually using this ability, and then her profile states that she has the weakness of letting herself get hit so there's that too.

Edit: Also even if gojo survives his output would be very nerfed after this so that needs to be taken into account

 

[GunshyFever]

Too many glazers in 1 thread

Somewhat, I'm having some good back and fourths with razor.

 

[GunshyFever]

I see, this does make the toji knife regen feat useless. And looking at the blood amount even when taking the illustration gege drew into account it seems makima's attack draws more blood from the brain damage gojo suffered. Im still not fully convinced one attack of this would insta kill gojo but there's a good chance. I think the deciding factor will be if makima will use the future devil. If she uses the future devil and she sees herself get pasted from an attack she cant see she'll for sure use this move but I dont remember her ever actually using this ability, and then her profile states that she has the weakness of letting herself get hit so there's that too.

Edit: Also even if gojo survives his output would be very nerfed after this so that needs to be taken into account

The final decider is who can win a quick draw. Which is obviously Makima, with the 17x reaction speed advantage.

 

[Jaynic1]

The final decider is who can win a quick draw. Which is obviously Makima, with the 17x reaction speed advantage.

Thats only true if she makes the judgement that gojo needs the brain damage attack as her first move, which she only did against darkness devil and that other dude. And I think thats dependent on whether she uses future sight and sees herself die.

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

I see, this does make the toji knife regen feat useless. And looking at the blood amount even when taking the illustration gege drew into account it seems makima's attack draws more blood from the brain damage gojo suffered. Im still not fully convinced one attack of this would insta kill gojo but there's a good chance. I think the deciding factor will be if makima will use the future devil. If she uses the future devil and she sees herself get pasted from an attack she cant see she'll for sure use this move but I dont remember her ever actually using this ability, and then her profile states that she has the weakness of letting herself get hit so there's that too.

Edit: Also even if gojo survives his output would be very nerfed after this so that needs to be taken into account

Yes, YES! Like holy hell, people be like Gojo could just instantly heal the brain damage like it's nothing and continue on without any consequences! Of course he would, like this is uncontrolled brain damage after all.

Her weakness is letting herself gets hit, but Future devil lets her see several seconds into the future, so she might see that she doesn't get regenerated and dodge in time, though a 50/50.

Somewhat, I'm having some good back and fourths with razor.

I'm glad we could have debates like this instead of using 13918391802301 misinformation and stuff like most debates out there do (no one actually reads JJK bro)

 

[Jaynic1]

Her weakness is letting herself gets hit, but Future devil lets her see several seconds into the future, so she might see that she doesn't get regenerated and dodge in time, though a 50/50.

Thats the thing, I cannot remember her ever actually using the future devil.

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

Thats only true if she makes the judgement that gojo needs the brain damage attack as her first move, which she only did against darkness devil and that other dude. And I think thats dependent on whether she uses future sight and sees herself die.

I mean Makima never really goes for a brawl right at the start either (only did for Denji because she freaking hates him). Also doppelganger devil.

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

Thats the thing, I cannot remember her ever actually using the future devil.

ahem

 

[Robo432343]

with a 17x reaction speed advantage makima can do whatever she wants in that time wtf
even if shit doesn't work

 

[Jaynic1]

ahem

Changing my vote for makima then. I think knowing gojo's status as the strongest and since its in character for her to use future devil against a strong opponent and she'll have the initiative with her superior reaction speed. Even if gojo survives the initial brain attack his output will drop.

 

[GunshyFever]

Makima's Advanatges​

1) Reactions & Perception Advantage -
With speed equalization, the rules explicitly state:

Makima's combat speed is High Hypersonic+ (Mach 81.48), while her reaction speed scales massively above Massively Hypersonic+ (Mach 1390.67). Gojo's combat and reaction speed is listed at Mach 2.86.

This makes her reaction speeds alone 17x faster than Gojo's. So even under speed equalization, Makima's reaction speed is scaled down by the same multiplier as her combat speed.

Plus, Makima's Automatic Precognition, which allows her to see a few seconds into the future, grants her a tactical advantage. Not only can she predict Gojo’s next moves and react accordingly, but she can also perceive his actions before he even performs them, turning him into an open book.

2) Tactical Approach & Clairvoyance -
As stated on her profile:

In short, once Makima becomes aware of Gojo's status and realizes that controlling him directly isn’t viable, she will work from the shadows to analyze him and gauge the scope of his abilities. She’ll rely on her minions to observe strength and capabilities. Makima is an exceptionally quick and perceptive thinker whom is capable of formulating strategies and improvising with her powers in real time, as demonstrated during her fight with the Gun Devil.

And before anyone says anything: no, she did not prepare for that fight. There was no pre-battle planning for the initial takedown of the Gun Devil. What was actually prepared was the plan for Aki to become the vessel, having the Gun Devil’s corpse placed in his body and sent straight to Denji’s front door. That was orchestrated, not the battle itself.

So, once Makima has a solid understanding of Gojo’s mechanics, she will return to the battlefield and actively pursue him using her wide arsenal of options.

Also worth noting: Makima can read minds.
As stated on her profile:

She can eventually figure Gojo out, his abilities, how they work all through his own memories.

3) Enhanced Senses -
As stated on her profile:

With this, it’s clear that Makima effectively has all eyes on Gojo, constantly aware of his location and actions, whether through her own awareness or via her controlled minions. This constant surveillance allows her to anticipate and counter Gojo's strategies in real time.

Makima's Resistances​

1) Infinite Void -
As her profile states:

Prop's for resisting a stronger infinite void.

Conclusion​

Everything above outlines the various ways Makima can achieve victory. You're free to respond or debate these points using Gojo's abilities and showings, but based on the information provided, it's clear to me that Makima holds the tactical advantage, along with a versatile range of win cons and controlled abilities as well as a perception advantage.

For these reasons, I'm casting my vote for Makima.

Bumping this for those who didn't see

 

[Jaynic1]

with a 17x reaction speed advantage makima can do whatever she wants in that time wtf
even if shit doesn't work

"Reaction speed is defined as a single movement in a defined timeframe, which a character has been shown capable of. A series of movements in similar timeframes makes this combat speed, so this term should only be applied for a single, quick movement"


Makima's superior reaction speed would only make her do a single quick movement which unless its using future devil she would lose.

 

[Jaynic1]

@CastoriceTheFifth Im changing my vote to makima

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

I'm voting for my goat gojo but this looking like an very close inconclusive match off

 

[Razor]

It's actually used far more often than you give it credit for. Anyway, it's still the most likely ability Makima would use in this battle. Most of Makima's abilities don't have names and in general her attacks are very vague and hard to interpret. You could argue that it's unlikely she would use it, but there's always a scenario where she might, because out of all her moves, she actually uses this one as an opener, unlike "Bang" or virtually any other ability aside from Conquest. The time Makima got a clear visual on Pochita, she also sent him into space which is arguably more effective than destroying his internals, considering she knows he can regenerate. Not the strongest argument.

The point is, when Makima doesn't use Conquest, she's more inclined to lay waste to her opponent using that ability, just as she's done in the past, multiple times in quick succession to subjugate enemies.

She uses it thrice, two times against random fodder, its used as often as I give it credit for. Though I don't think I'll be able to convince anyone that she doesn't start with that, like you said its subjective. Objectively tho, she still has tons of other viable options, with only 1 that works.

i think we're glazing the 5 times healing too much
He damaged and healed his brain a few times strategically in the Sukuna fight not from trauma but to reset his domain expansion. He didn't suffer full cerebral trauma and he was in control of that damage
he cant survive full-brain hemorrhaging like what Makima inflicts. also RCT requires conscious effort and if Makima’s attack causes instant widespread brain death gojo wouldn't even be able to trigger it

He does, the visual literally shows his brain leaking. If the random goon makima used it on didn't just have his brain explode on the spot then there is no reason Gojo couldn't survive long enough to retaliate.

The final decider is who can win a quick draw. Which is obviously Makima, with the 17x reaction speed advantage.

It's not, even if Makima wins the quick draw there's still the issue of her actually choosing that ability.

Changing my vote for makima then. I think knowing gojo's status as the strongest and since its in character for her to use future devil against a strong opponent and she'll have the initiative with her superior reaction speed. Even if gojo survives the initial brain attack his output will drop.

Red will be used almost immediately after the bio hax is used so the output drop will apply after red has been shot. Furthermore, the future devil won't allow her to know what the circumstances of her death will be since CE attacks are invisible leaving what Makima does completely open.

 

[Razor]

I'm voting for my goat gojo but this looking like an very close inconclusive match off

Yeah I'm almost certain it would be incon anyways.

 

[Razor]

Yes, YES! Like holy hell, people be like Gojo could just instantly heal the brain damage like it's nothing and continue on without any consequences! Of course he would, like this is uncontrolled brain damage after all.

No one's saying that. The overall point is that Gojo has regenerated injuries on the same vein as what Makima does 5 times in quick succession while using RCT for other parts of his body, and using other techniques as well. Your output drastically lowers when your domain crumbles too which happened to Gojo 3 times, when this happening once is enough for any sorcerer to be on burnout.

I am not saying Gojo would shrug off makima's bio hax, cause that would mean this match is a stomp. I am saying that Gojo would survive for long enough that red or any of his other attacks could reach Makima and kill her.

Also The future devil's precog isn't infalliable. When Aki used it he was still overwhelmed by the barrage of attacks from the ghost devil. Simply seeing the future won't allow you to actually act on it, especially when what you see in that future is completely incomprehensible to you.

 

[Robo432343]

He does, the visual literally shows his brain leaking. If the random goon makima used it on didn't just have his brain explode on the spot then there is no reason Gojo couldn't survive long enough to retaliate

Gojo’s brain leaking isn’t the same as cerebral hemorrhage. Cerebral hemorrhage is an uncontrolled rupture of blood vessels in multiple brain regions which causes instant neurological collapse, not just leaking??? Gojo remained fully functional, conscious and in control while Makimas victims drop dead instantly as if their entire nervous system shut down. It is very different because he controls the damage then heals it instantly with RCT which would not be possible if the damage were uncontrolled or system-wide

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

No one's saying that. The overall point is that Gojo has regenerated injuries on the same vein as what Makima does 5 times in quick succession while using RCT for other parts of his body, and using other techniques as well. Your output drastically lowers when your domain crumbles too which happened to Gojo 3 times, when this happening once is enough for any sorcerer to be on burnout.

I am not saying Gojo would shrug off makima's bio hax, cause that would mean this match is a stomp. I am saying that Gojo would survive for long enough that red or any of his other attacks could reach Makima and kill her.

You mean in a quickdraw? Then yes, Makima would get obliterated if Gojo ever fired and the attack hits fully, but that's assuming Gojo could fire red quick and strong enough, when all Makima needs to do is literally points at Gojo.

Also The future devil's precog isn't infalliable. When Aki used it he was still overwhelmed by the barrage of attacks from the ghost devil. Simply seeing the future won't allow you to actually act on it, especially when what you see in that future is completely incomprehensible to you.

Wrong, your example about Aki doesn't help when he's just a normal human (Ghost even overwhelmed freaking Katana man), and a barrage of attacks would be really hard to deal against, not a single ball of destruction going in a straight line.

Edit: For example, Aki was able to act against an invisible force in time, invisible due to Quanxi moving too fast, faster than Katana's quick draw who blitzed Power and Aki completely

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

I somehow stopped getting notifications here?????

 

[Jaynic1]

I somehow stopped getting notifications here?????

Ignore my msg to change my vote to makima, change it to incon bec im really not sure who would win.

 

[Razor]

Gojo’s brain leaking isn’t the same as cerebral hemorrhage. Cerebral hemorrhage is an uncontrolled rupture of blood vessels in multiple brain regions which causes instant neurological collapse, not just leaking??? Gojo remained fully functional, conscious and in control while Makimas victims drop dead instantly as if their entire nervous system shut down. It is very different because he controls the damage then heals it instantly with RCT which would not be possible if the damage were uncontrolled or system-wide

What are you talking about? Any bleeding from the brain is intracranial hemorrhage, they are literally the same thing. The reason he remained functional is because he could heal his brain while the people Makima did it to cannot. I've already shown how Sukuna was able to live through a similar injury to what Makima causes and Gojo is at least as good as Sukuna when it comes to brain healing, if not better.

You mean in a quickdraw? Then yes, Makima would get obliterated if Gojo ever fired and the attack hits fully, but that's assuming Gojo could fire red quick and strong enough, when all Makima needs to do is literally points at Gojo.

Wrong, your example about Aki doesn't help when he's just a normal human (Ghost even overwhelmed freaking Katana man), and a barrage of attacks would be really hard to deal against, not a single ball of destruction going in a straight line.

Edit: For example, Aki was able to act against an invisible force in time, invisible due to Quanxi moving too fast, faster than Katana's quick draw who blitzed Power and Aki completely

Makima points at Gojo then the TK takes effect, Firing red takes no time at all for Gojo, or blue for that matter so it is a quickdraw, the difference is a few seconds at best.

What does him being a normal human have to do in this scenario, point is just because you could see the future doesn't mean you would be able to act accordingly. Especially when what you see in the future isn't even comprehensible to you. Aki saw the ghost devil attacking him so he dodges, simple as that. Makima just sees that she dies.

Also just realized that Makima's durability is only 550 tons, which means I was wrong. HP, Red and max blue aren't the only things that would kill makima. Even Gojo's base blue would be able to paste makima. 500 kilotons vs 550 tons

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

What does him being a normal human have to do in this scenario, point is just because you could see the future doesn't mean you would be able to act accordingly. Especially when what you see in the future isn't even comprehensible to you. Aki saw the ghost devil attacking him so he dodges, simple as that. Makima just sees that she dies.

I already said that a barrage of attacks coming at you and overwhelm you, that's all you need to deal with precog users. Even if you can see several seconds into the future, wouldn't help you at all if you keeps charging into a barrage of bullets and not retreats like Aki, because eventually there will be no gap for you to "dodge" anymore.

And dunno if you've read the edit, but I already mentioned that Aki could prepare to dodge Quanxi's attack, which is effectively invisible to him, and that's only thanks to his ability to see several seconds into the future. And don't you dare say Ghost is somehow faster than Quanxi, that does not make any sense.

Not being able to dodge a barrage of attacks doesn't mean you can't dodge 1 of them at a time.

Makima gains massive boosts thanks to having more reaction speed, if she sees that she can't regenerate, all she have to do is activate her ability quick enough (which she already show that she's capable to do) and all is good, even if you argue she might not be able to make it in time, her having precog and reaction speed difference should make it a 9/10 chance already, it's in makima's favor.

 

[Razor]

I already said that a barrage of attacks coming at you and overwhelm you, that's all you need to deal with precog users. Even if you can see several seconds into the future, wouldn't help you at all if you keeps charging into a barrage of bullets and not retreats like Aki, because eventually there will be no gap for you to "dodge" anymore.

And dunno if you've read the edit, but I already mentioned that Aki could prepare to dodge Quanxi's attack, which is effectively invisible to him, and that's only thanks to his ability to see several seconds into the future. And don't you dare say Ghost is somehow faster than Quanxi, that does not make any sense.

Not being able to dodge a barrage of attacks doesn't mean you can't dodge 1 of them at a time.

Makima gains massive boosts thanks to having more reaction speed, if she sees that she can't regenerate, all she have to do is activate her ability quick enough (which she already show that she's capable to do) and all is good, even if you argue she might not be able to make it in time, her having precog and reaction speed difference should make it a 9/10 chance already, it's in makima's favor.

Idk where you're getting the 9/10 chances from, just because she activates her ability fast enough doesn't stop Gojo from firing red. Even if her TK lands first, it won't immediately kill Gojo. Whereas red would

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

Idk where you're getting the 9/10 chances from, just because she activates her ability fast enough doesn't stop Gojo from firing red. Even if her TK lands first, it won't immediately kill Gojo. Whereas red would

Red would... If it hit. And this whole debate is whether Makima could dodge red with... You know... Her precog and freaking 70x reaction speed difference (which scales to her ability activation speed too).

 

[Catbowtie]

Red would... If it hit. And this whole debate is whether Makima could dodge red with... You know... Her precog and freaking 70x reaction speed difference (which scales to her ability activation speed too).

SHE CAN'T SEE THE RED TO KNOW HOW TO DODGE IT

 

[Apotheosis69]

First thing is, can Makima see Cursed Energy? Considering its pure Mental Energy, and its a different wavelength of light basically... so no smell/scent

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Honestly, Gojo turning Makima into clumps of flesh and blood.

And while Makima's aware of Gojo being the strongest Sorcerer of today. That doesn't mean she is aware of specifically how powerful he is, like terms of strength and durability. And even then, sometimes complete knowledge just makes you aware of the seemingly inevitable... Like your death

She'll likely use Bang, that won't do shit. Or use Contracted Devils like against the Gun Devil, to which, with the Six Eyes will help him reach and teleport out of the way. If she teleports way with like rats, or anything... Gojo will sense her and just teleport to her... so she can't really keep her distance

Gojo would know she's bad news and just punch her, or unleash pure Cursed Energy or Blue. And GG's

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

SHE CAN'T SEE THE RED TO KNOW HOW TO DODGE IT

So does Aki when he literally blocked Quanxi's attack. You doesn't see it coming doesn't mean you can't see that you're dead.

 

[Catbowtie]

You doesn't see it coming doesn't mean you can't see that you're dead

This sentence literally means nothing.

Makima just sees herself explode. What can she do with that information? I think I asked this question like a few pages back and no one gave me a straight answer.

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

She'll likely use Bang, that won't do shit. Or use Contracted Devils like against the Gun Devil, to which, with the Six Eyes will help him reach and teleport out of the way. If she teleports way with like rats, or anything... Gojo will sense her and just teleport to her... so she can't really keep her distance

Wrong. You're overrestimating Gojo's Six Eyes and teleportation, and severely underrestimate Makima's range. Makima could spot you 500km away with her bare eyes and activate her ability to teleport within that same range.

Makima does not have CE, so Gojo can't just "sense" her either, if she ever teleports away, it's GG.

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

This sentence literally means nothing.

Makima just sees herself explode. What can she do with that information? I think I asked this question like a few pages back and no one gave me a straight answer.

Uh... Dodge? Like here's the thing, I'll be the one to give you the answer, a straight one, how about that?

Future's ability allow you to see "several seconds into the future", this allowed Aki to even blocked Quanxi's attack, which should be higher than a blitz tier above him.

Now, normally if Makima sees herself dying, it'd be quite normal, but because the ability allows you to see SEVERAL SECONDS into the future, if Makima's regen doesn't kick in by then, then she normally wouldn't be able to see anything, and that's a signal that she should dodge the attack.

 

[Apotheosis69]

Wrong. You're overrestimating Gojo's Six Eyes and teleportation, and severely underrestimate Makima's range. Makima could spot you 500km away with her bare eyes and activate her ability to teleport within that same range.

Makima does not have CE, so Gojo can't just "sense" her either, if she ever teleports away, it's GG.

Through SBA. Max starting distance is 4 Kilometers AND has Verse Equalization, so Makima has Cursed Energy...

Starting distance: The characters start as far away from each other as the highest range of the fighters is, but a maximum of 4 kilometers. For example, if one character has a range of 10 meter and the other has a range of 20 meter they start 20 meter apart. However if the range of one character is 10 meter and the range of the other is 5 kilometer, they start only 4 kilometer apart.

Verse equalization: Similar supernatural aspects of verses get equalized in a reasonable fashion. So a supernatural energy that almost everyone in a Verse has, which is necessary to fight the characters of said Verse, will be assumed to be the equivalent energy that the opponents use in their techniques so that a proper fight can happen.

And Gojo knew EXACTLY where Kenjaku and Sukuna where hiding at... when the Prison Realm he was sealed at was 8 kilometers under the ocean in a Trench...


Yeah I'm easy votin for Gojo

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

Through SBA. Max starting distance is 4 Kilometers AND has Verse Equalization, so Makima has Cursed Energy...

Meaning she could see the attack coming, checkmate GG

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

And Gojo knew EXACTLY where Kenjaku and Sukuna where hiding at... when the Prison Realm he was sealed at was multiple kilometers under the ocean in a Trench...

Multiple Kilometers vs 500km. Sure dude...

 

[Arkansalter2]

Uh... Dodge? Like here's the thing, I'll be the one to give you the answer, a straight one, how about that?

Future's ability allow you to see "several seconds into the future", this allowed Aki to even blocked Quanxi's attack, which should be higher than a blitz tier above him.

Now, normally if Makima sees herself dying, it'd be quite normal, but because the ability allows you to see SEVERAL SECONDS into the future, if Makima's regen doesn't kick in by then, then she normally wouldn't be able to see anything, and that's a signal that she should dodge the attack.

That doesn't answer a damn. If she doesn't know what she got hit by, how would she know how to learn from it?
Her enhanced sight comes from enhanced vision.. not neutral vision. Her version of vision won't help her here.

 

[Catbowtie]

Uh... Dodge? Like here's the thing, I'll be the one to give you the answer, a straight one, how about that?

Future's ability allow you to see "several seconds into the future", this allowed Aki to even blocked Quanxi's attack, which should be higher than a blitz tier above him.

Now, normally if Makima sees herself dying, it'd be quite normal, but because the ability allows you to see SEVERAL SECONDS into the future, if Makima's regen doesn't kick in by then, then she normally wouldn't be able to see anything, and that's a signal that she should dodge the attack.

Are you copy and pasting your answers? You said the same exact thing and now I'm going to say the same exact thing as I did before. Looks like you're immensely overselling what Makima can do here. Why can't Gojo just aim at Makima again and burst her like a grape with red? What's seeing several seconds into the future going to do against an attack that's invisible?

...you DO realize what an attack being invisible implies right? It means Makima has no way of knowing when it's going to come or where it's going to come from. Seeing herself blow up seconds into the future isn't going to give her insight on how to dodge the attack, BECAUSE THE ATTACK IS INVISIBLE.

 

[Jaynic1]

Multiple Kilometers vs 500km. Sure dude...

Where do you get 500km from? The fight wont start with that distance

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

That doesn't answer a damn. If she doesn't know what she got hit by, how would she know how to learn from it?
Her enhanced sight comes from enhanced vision.. not neutral vision. Her version of vision won't help her here.

uh... She'll learn that she got obliterated? Like what? Does Aki also see Quanxi coming too? Like what are you talking about? I already answered this in the same comment.

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

Are you copy and pasting your answers? You said the same exact thing and now I'm going to say the same exact thing as I did before. Looks like you're immensely overselling what Makima can do here. Why can't Gojo just aim at Makima again and burst her like a grape with red? What's seeing several seconds into the future going to do against an attack that's invisible?

...you DO realize what an attack being invisible implies right? It means Makima has no way of knowing when it's going to come or where it's going to come from. Seeing herself blow up seconds into the future isn't going to give her insight on how to dodge the attack, BECAUSE THE ATTACK IS INVISIBLE.

Ah yes, and so does Aki, yet he blocked it.

 

[Acertainbcplayer]

Where do you get 500km from? The fight wont start with that distance

But she can teleport 500km away, that's the thing here. People argued "Gojo could tag Makima if she teleports away" and forgets that Makima could easily teleports 500km away, while Gojo has 0 feats putting him on that level.