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Makima vs Alastor (CSM vs HH)
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Awsomeboi19
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Voting Makima cuz screw Alastor
Ruby_R_Dracula
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need a actual reason buddy
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hate is an actual reason buddy
Ruby_R_Dracula
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eat pant
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So, what happened?
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I am aware of that.
DarkLock92
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DarkLock92
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Even though Makima lost her "Bang" advantage, considering she still has a faster BFR than herself and Cosmo Fiend, I would still lean towards her. Alastor's fighting style relies heavily on shadows, and considering how he fought Adam and Vox, I think Makima has a slight advantage because, as mentioned, Makima didn't actually fight from the start but let her subordinates fight for her and launched attacks from the shadows. (Okay, I don't remember where this fight went, but I'll leave my answer here.)
DarkLock92
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The_Renegade_Slugger
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Agree with this, voting Makima
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Alastor FRA
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I think the question isn't whether Makima has a faster BFR than Alastor, but whether her BFR is faster than Alastor's Teleport/Shadow Transformation.
Cosmo or Makima need to get within a few meters of Alastor for their ability to work, which is unlikely to happen since Alastor's summons are stronger than her, and Makima herself would be putting herself at great risk. It's also worth mentioning that Cosmo needs to pull the opponent's mind into his own for Hax to work, which might be countered by Alastor's resistance to mental manipulation. However, Vox's hypnosis focuses on mental control and invasion, not pulling the mind towards itself, so it's debatable whether Alastor's mental resistance would grant him the ability to resist having his mind pulled into another's.
I'm considering what's in the profiles; I haven't read Chainsaw Man.
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That's the case with Cosmo Fiend himself, but through Makima, she'll be the one directly using it, and her ability range is "Inter-D".
You should hope that Alastor has a high enough speed amp because Makima can teleport Pochita, someone much faster than her.
Ruby_R_Dracula
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again, look at le speed shit.
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This thing is faster than Makima itself, btw, it's kind of like a speed amp. You can't say we move faster than a bullet, right?
Ruby_R_Dracula
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look, Alastor has an ftl rating, you can't be arguing speed or else this match can't be added, unless you somehow could get Makima to Ftl but a faster value than Alastor's then don't.
(or atleast wait till Ftl gets removed from him, idk heard that it might happen somewhere from the HH GD idfk)
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Do you understand? Alastor's FTL is Combat/Reaction, which means Makima is similar. As for Hell Devil's BFR, it's clearly faster than Makima, and that's just an ability activated through a Contract. That's why I used the example of your own speed and a bullet.
Anonymous_Learner
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the faster fighter gets slowed to the slower fighter in equal speed
Anonymous_Learner
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and if makima wins cuz of a speed amp over a faster fighter, it can't be added
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Wait, wait, wait, Makima being able to use Control to control beings with an interdimensional range is one thing, expanding the range of a controlled ability is something entirely different.
DarkLock92
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So, what now? Alastor got some pretty substantial buffs
Ruby_R_Dracula
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nothing changes, pretty sure I accepted that the AW would tear through Makima finely when I first made this
ok one thing that changes is the fact, Alastor ain't the faster one without Speed equal
DarkLock92
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Alastor's forcefields are now tier 5, via blocking AWs
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Anonymous_Learner
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Son missed my best contribution to Alastor agenda, i'm crying
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Wait then Tier 5 stuff in my thread will be incredibly easy to pass lol
Ruby_R_Dracula
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Then, I should be able to restrict the Forcefield, considering the ability is a Seperate tier than his physicals
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His overall AP and likely dura will be upgraded soon anyways.
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