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Satoru Gojo (The Honored One) Vs Makima (The Control Devil) (Jujutsu Kaisen Vs Chainsaw Man) [49-37-7]
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Just boti
Alright so why are people terrified of the contract
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When we look at the statistics, Gojo is a bit weak. Please tell me if I'm wrong, but I'll vote for Makima.
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No idea, it was never meant to be an offensive contract like that.
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Can I just unrestrict it. It makes no sense to be terrified of the contract while arguing that blue and red will be able to bypass her resurrection, implying that she’ll just die once.
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Makima also has Dura Neg which is a disadvantage for Gojo and also has an immo of 8 which makes it harder for Makima to die.
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Yeah, well really it doesn't matter regardless.
Catbowtie
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What dura neg?
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wait what
gojo is a jap citizen now
damage transferal cooks him
gojo is a jap citizen now
damage transferal cooks him
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Yeah I made gojo considered a Japanese citizen again. Votes shouldn’t be changed since there’s literally a 0.000000793% chance of him dying to the contract and that this would only be possible if she died MILLIONS of times. If any one voting gojo is worried about this while arguing that she gets deleted by Red/Blue in the first attack then the argument is cooked.
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wait what
gojo is a jap citizen now
damage transferal cooks him
A 0.000000793% chance bro
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bro
that is not real
that is not real
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If yall are implying that Makima is ever going to be put into a position where she dies millions of times to the point the contract actually affects gojo then this fight is a stomp. This would mean that it invalidates every single argument surrounding Red Blue and Purple decimating her in 1 attack
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He lasts a few seconds at best. Damaging & RCTing only his prefrontal cortex just 5 times is beyond his capabilities, and each time he did it he already had a chance of dying from it. Gojo is better at brain RCT than most sorcerers, but the brain is still a sorcerer's weak point, and damaging it will still cause disability and/or death.
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Already said that she getting pasted doesn't do anything when nothing in the Chainsaw man world could realistically kill Makima by force, Kishibe basically confirmed it already, I don't know how any of that would be headcanon. If anything, I believe Makima's mid-high end should be the right one to use here (man seriously, why haven't I made a CRT about this yet smh smh, maybe I'll tmr).
Yes it does, it means that whatever reason Gojo couldn't use his telepotation to negs Sukuna was because of those "certain conditions", people have talked about it a lot and the conclusion was "Gege simply wanted to nerf Gojo"
Ah yes, me when I spot a building 500km away, ignoring even earth's curvature itself. Like seriously, Gun Devil ain't THAT big.
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Uh... Dodge? Like cmon, don't act like Devils in csm ain't the same "I point at you and you ded", in fact Makima have fought one way stronger and faster than Gojo before, I don't even know why her not being able to see the attack even matters
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Can you help me out rq. In what scenario would Makima be put in where she dies millions of times to the point it would trigger the contract to kill Gojo while arguing Red and Blue would bypass her resurrection.
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Gojo just re-adjusts his point and pastes her away. Faster doesn’t mean anything. Speed is equalized bro. Makima not being able to see the attack means a whole lot. She gains no information from Precog, and her Enhanced Senses tell her nothing.
Say Makima decides to do exactly what you say, well now Gojo just manipulates Red to do a 180 and hit her from behind, or Blue crushes her, or he just does another Red. Or he just points at her again lol.
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Updated the OP to include Gojo’s chances of dying to the contract btw
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I believe that should be removed. Makima only ever let those attacks hit her because she already knew about her opponent and how they operated prior.
She didn't even bother to dodge a Prime Devil's attacks lol
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this is my subjective opinion stop being toxic you look ridiculous this haxs is on your profile so it can be addressedHaven’t we been over this yet?
Voting Gojo because of Razor’s reasonings.
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One more thing to the Makima CRT then. Man, her profile has more diabolical nerfs than Gege nerfing Gojo.
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HP, red and blue bypasses all of Makima's immortality. Her resurrection is not combat applicable, as she will technically be revived but as a different person (Nayuta). If thats what you're referring to, its not a factor here. Makima does have dura neg but nearly all of Gojo's attacks would paste her, which would lead to the same result.
Idk what you're talking about, mid-high regen end is being used here. Mid-high means she can regenerate from small parts of herself, if HP, Red, Max blue lands there won't be any pieces of her left.
So you admit its PiS at best? Or a plot convenience meaning it is not at all relevant here.
Yes, it is. And even if it's not "that" big. Gojo can literally discern figures from kilometers away, human sized figures. Pretty sure thats not that far off from Makima's feat. Plus it doesn't really matter, of course Makima would have a visual on Gojo at all times, via lower lifeforms.
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We don't even know what part of the body she attacks with the move, and to what extent. This was what I was talking about when I said the move was pretty vague as a wincon. Also to clarify, whenever Gojo needed to heal his brain, this was what he needed to heal;
He wasn't healing a few minor injuries to his brain, his brain was leaking. He did this multiple times and the fact he couldn't do for longer was because his output was lowered. I fail to see what other attack Makima has that would force Gojo to run RCT on his body for a prolonged period of time like Sukuna's MS, or would cause a strain on him like a failed domain expansion would. He last way longer than a few seconds. At the very least he lasts long enough to use red and kill Makima, even using a generous assumption of the ability.
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High-Mid is being used
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Makima can spot Pochita and shoot him with precision all the way to outer space (meaning freaking pitch black outer space, where Pochita isn't a shiny and huge piece of metal that is reflective enough to spot even at night, let alone bright daylight). I think this is enough to put Makima way above Gojo already.
Yes, it is. And even if it's not "that" big. Gojo can literally discern figures from kilometers away, human sized figures. Pretty sure thats not that far off from Makima's feat. Plus it doesn't really matter, of course Makima would have a visual on Gojo at all times, via lower lifeforms.
Anyways, the point here is Gojo has 0 way to chase Makima if she ever choose to just go and hide somewhere with her teleportation.
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I made one fatal mistake, I misrememberd Future's ability and thought that it only allow you to peek 1 second into the future (which is only the normal contract anyways) while it actually allow you to peek several seconds into the future. This is very important, because if this is the case, if Makima sees that in about several seconds she will no longer see daylight, she will more than likely try to teleport away, which only takes at most 1 second out of that several seconds.
Makima also gains an upper hand of knowing that Gojo is dangerous, so 7/10 times she'll likely just teleport away, or simply just dodges because speed is equalized, Makima has precog and Gojo's abilities leave quite visible collateral damage (and if it don't, then the attack will simply leave a Toji-style hole in Makima which she could easily regen from), I don't see how Makima wouldn't be able to dodge it even more now.
Makima also gains an upper hand of knowing that Gojo is dangerous, so 7/10 times she'll likely just teleport away, or simply just dodges because speed is equalized, Makima has precog and Gojo's abilities leave quite visible collateral damage (and if it don't, then the attack will simply leave a Toji-style hole in Makima which she could easily regen from), I don't see how Makima wouldn't be able to dodge it even more now.
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Makima didn't shoot Pochita when he was outside of the atmosphere. Makima shot at Pochita with bang which caused him to go out of the atmosphere. Though Makima was able to discern that he removed his heart from that distance, so that's actually a good catch.
He does, six eyes allows him to see from kilometers away and he can teleport. There's also nothing Makima can do from a distance, she can study Gojo all she wants but eventually her minions are going to run out and she's gonna have to face Gojo herself. All her minions get one shotted instantly.
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Nothing changes, Gunshy already brought up the precog and I already brought up my argument against it. Though if you still disagree thats up to you
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Several kilometers vs literally 100 kilometers at least, like no, and that literally won't help Gojo against Makima who could teleport 500 kilometers away from him, he ain't spotting her in time and even if he SOMEHOW did, she could easily do that again, again and again all she likes.
What minions are running out exactly? Like are Gojo gonna go blasting at random crows and stuff that literally has 0 CE in them? Like them crows looking at him funny or something?
Makima won't use her normal pawns to face Gojo for obvious reason, none of them is gonna work at all, 1 or 2 sacrifices are enough to confirm that. And after that, all it takes is a shrine ritual to kill Gojo, Makima could go twisting her hands for a whole day while Gojo can't really do anything about it.
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