[Naruto] Juubito Update

[MinatoSparkle]

dude said in discord he'd take care of getting it evaluated and all he did was bump

Content Revision Promotion Thread

Priority: 3/2 ? (AP value upgrade / Possible tier 5 upgrade) Verse: Fire Emblem Description: Revision of Ashunera's AP and those who scale to her Bump x7, open for 9 months

vsbattles.com

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

this is NEVER getting approved using dat

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

this is NEVER getting approved using dat

Yeah, that thread is kind of garbage.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

I'll ask ppl later

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

This was a VSBW translator's opinion on the raws

"Something like that won't be able to withstand the combined* explosion of 4 Ten-Tails Bijuudamas.

*共鳴 is like resonance (the physics one, with waves and interference and stuff) and 爆破 is just explosion/blast
共鳴爆破 being "resonant explosion" sounds kinda silly so i can only imagine it's referring to their combined power."

I think this gives significantly more credence to the idea that it's 400 TT

I think this is a borderline enough case that it might be acceptable under current standards. We don't have access to the multiplier page as fandom seems down, but iirc, the rule is that it needs a "explicitly stated multiplier".

In this case, while it doesn't directly say "this attack is 4 times as strong as an individual one" (this would be the most explicit evidence acceptable under the standards), saying "the combined explosion" does point towards being more powerful, and since we are given directly a number of how many parts constitute the "combination", it's a very semantical way of saying the same thing imo.

So I would agree with treating this as a multiplier. Whether to apply upscaling to get 400 TT, that I will leave to others. I genuinely don't have an opinion there.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Thanks for the evaluation! I would like to note though that the upscaling discussion was in regards to getting 430 teratons (borderline High 6-B+), since at a baseline level, a 4x multiplier would already make the Quad Juubidamas 400 teratons.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Quickly caught up to this thread.
I definitely see the contention with this thread. I honestly flip flopped on my stance, like, 4 times while reading through this lol.
But in the end, I'm inclined to agree with Lephyr for the time being.
So I'm fine with 400TT Quad Jūbidamas and 6CRF, basically what Sparkle proposed.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

I definitely see the contention with this thread. I honestly flip flopped on my stance, like, 4 times while reading through this lol.

Absolutely understandable ayy

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

Tbh even generally in the series, the fusion of different energies(sm), natures or even attacks (MAS) results in a beyond linear multiplicative result so this has pretty fair grounds to be a multiplier within the context of Naruto

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Bump

 

[Damage3245]

If we want to say he is capable of a 393.4 Teraton attack by shooting off four Biju Bombs within his barrier set-up, then okay, I can go along with that. I do not believe that this warrants upscaling though, or that this can be scaled to any other jutsu or striking strength that Juubito has.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

If we want to see he is capable of a 393.4 Teraton attack by shooting off four Biju Bombs within his barrier set-up, then okay, I can go along with that. I do not believe that this warrants upscaling though, or that this can be scaled to any other jutsu or striking strength that Juubito has.

The base Bijuudamas are 100 teratons so it's 400 even without upscaling. What about the Six Crimson Rays Formation?

 

[Damage3245]

The base Bijuudamas are 100 teratons so it's 400 even without upscaling. What about the Six Crimson Rays Formation?

I thought the Biju Bombs are 98.35 Teratons?

As for the Six Crimson Rays Formation, it can contain a blast of four Biju Bombs within it but that's spread out across the entire surface area and a portion of the blast funnelled upwards. It might be better to just rate it as "far higher" than his own durability.

 

[KingTempest]

I thought the Biju Bombs are 98.35 Teratons?

They are for unstable Obito. Stable Obito is 100 TT due to upscaling to baseline prior to the combination of the bijuudamas

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

They are for unstable Obito. Stable Obito is 100 TT due to upscaling to baseline prior to the combination of the bijuudamas

Nah, it's more like
100 TT = 3rd Form charged Jūbidama > 3rd form Jūbidama > 2nd form Jūbidama = 98 TT

 

[MinatoSparkle]

I thought the Biju Bombs are 98.35 Teratons?

What Slayer said (although I thought 3rd form Juubidamas were 100 TT in general tbh, doesn't really matter ig)

As for the Six Crimson Rays Formation, it can contain a blast of four Biju Bombs within it but that's spread out across the entire surface area and a portion of the blast funnelled upwards. It might be better to just rate it as "far higher" than his own durability.

Over time yes, but when it initially explodes, the barrier is able to withstand the explosion around its base, before it later funnels upward

 

[Damage3245]

Nah, it's more like
100 TT = 3rd Form charged Jūbidama > 3rd form Jūbidama > 2nd form Jūbidama = 98 TT

Okay.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Okay.

So are you fine with SCRF scaling or...?

 

[Damage3245]

So are you fine with SCRF scaling or...?

Okay.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Then this can be applied then