EL_xWatcher1234x
He/Him- 3,576
- 1,538
Could you list those hax ?
More details on DRV
They can interact with pretty much anything except NEP.
Resist all except chaos and I'm pretty sure it's not a wincon.
-
This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.
For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here. -
We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.
Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.
Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page. -
Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
Top 15 Strongest Characters for Every Tier
- Thread starter Setsuna_tenma
- Start date
They can interact with pretty much anything except NEP.
Rakih_Elyan
He/Him- 5,314
- 3,743
The world is already changed old man
- 5,366
- 2,829
Isn't his powernull busted as hell? Like, powernull depends on the feats instead of the dimensionality lmao since dimensionality is either the potency/range of that powernull. Without with what it was shown, it's just NLF
- 5,957
- 3,051
Mind, Madness type 3, Fear, Morality, Perception, all of which are passive, and the former two already scale above the Well's own stuff
It is literally just a phenomenon in of itself, which manifests as a pure vacuum that travels around, that can't be seen, and which suffocates (and TKs, but that's resisted) those within it.
Nope, BLACK has/is resistance negation that I see neither hide nor hair of him resisting, and even if he did have it, it likely would cover BLACK resistance negation, which is scuffed in that trying to resist it with usual means is like trying to resist fire manip by resisting water manip, it's an entirely separate thing, so he just gets BLACK'd if he doesn't die to the passives
Rakih_Elyan
He/Him- 5,314
- 3,743
What is Izayoi best power null feat even
- 1
- 0
Bump
- 1,001
- 1,271
Eh. That’s his main gimmick. Has a lot of these. Probably being able to see Demon King of Confusion while he was trying to hide his existence, aka unaffected by Time Stop imo.
Last edited:
EL_xWatcher1234x
He/Him- 3,576
- 1,538
He resist all those stuff
So ?
You should explain using the wiki term. Magic interact with soul, laws, concepts and reality on a fundamental level.
Again use wiki term to explain it.
Wait are they even smurf ?
Last edited:
Rikimarox2
He/Him- 9,124
- 5,424
How many layers is his Pnull? Wang Wei is on these lists (5-B, 4-C, 3-C) and resists quite a few layers of Powernull. Also has like, passive soul (type 3 concept)/mind/body shenanigans that are layered to hell and back.
- 1,001
- 1,271
Infinite
Rikimarox2
He/Him- 9,124
- 5,424
Were those layering stuff accepted? Because I'm not really seeing it anywhere on the profile or the main op (tho I just glanced at it, so eh).
- 9,231
- 4,366
....Are you joking? At best "lol a gazillion layers", at worst they more or less have the same haxes. Also in retrospective, this is just arguing about whose legal suggsverse is more stupid.
Last edited:
- 9,231
- 4,366
They don't scale higher.
- 9,231
- 4,366
They aren't high 1-A+ dawg, only itsy bitsy spider and jesus are high 1-A+ (which seems nonsensical as there shouldn't be two high 1-A+ in the same setting).
- 5,957
- 3,051
Nope, the mind related stuff, you could maybe argue, but definitely not the madness, his profile has none of that going on, and the soul shell stuff isn't going to protect him because madness type 3 needs specific feats of resistance for it, in addition to the fact that it's based on the character's own perception, not them directly reaching into their mind to **** them over, which is what soul shell protects against
AE1 based on being a literal phenomena, and our standards on AE1 is that you need a feat to interact with a specific type of AE1, of which I don't see anything of the sort so he can't interact
I literally said it in there, it's resistance negation that most resistances to the sort aren't going to work against because it isn't negating a resistance or what have you
Immo is, can argue all their mental fuckery is despite the changes with how it works, but I won't cause it doesn't matter, cause his stuff isn't smurf either since Agnaa's clarification on metaphysical smurf stuff, which means most of Arifretua's smurf hax gets tossed right out
Udlmaster
Any/All- 7,502
- 3,077
Why would Jesus be High 1-A+?
And they're not anyway.
The Weaver, Wyrm and Wyld are High 1-A+ along with Gaia.
Who all currently have profiles.
EL_xWatcher1234x
He/Him- 3,576
- 1,538
The profile are outdated, but they have feats of resisting it. I could do a quick madness CRT later.
Yeah, but phnomena is a pretty vague here. Is it physical, spiritual...?
Like I said the profile are outdated and resistance negation was accepted in a past CRT.
Didn't know about this. Link ?
- 14,671
- 5,672
Wesker018
He/Him- 1,254
- 1,330
Bondye and Jehova are outdated apearently, so they cant be used.
There are layers into High 1-A, Infinite Layers into High 1-A, Infinite Meta extentions into high 1-A... And then there is High 1-A+ which represents all posible extentions. So High 1-A+ is still just extentions into high 1-A, so they should be on the list.
Defeat the point or not doesnt matter, it is what it is.
- 285
- 104
I'm sure that Bondyen and Jhowah are superior to Gu Chensha and Tellurian and hierarchy Consensus are considered to be supra meta basslines(or higher than supra meta)
All of this was accepted in the Revision thread.
Jehovah is the supreme God of creation and he created Tellurian.
- 839
- 384
Mavuika has Type 1 Concept Manip and Type 2 Info Manip, both of which Wang Wei does not resist in 5-B
Rikimarox2
He/Him- 9,124
- 5,424
...That's cool and all, but like, unless she immediately has some passive Concept Type 1 erasure or smth, she just gets passive'd via his soul (type 3)/mind stuff, not to mention his passive fate manip which should prevent him from dying (since it's a nexus fate, which is an event that would absolutely happen, even if someone with type 1 fate stuff tried to change it).
- 5,957
- 3,051
Go ahead and make it then
and I quote
Not only is that the worst resistance negation I've ever seen (and in fact I'm surprised it even got accepted), that isn't equalizable to BLACK damage, this isn't bypassing resistance by negating them, this is bypassing resistances by simply not measurably not being the same thing as what you resist, like I said above, trying to resist BLACK with normal mind resistance is like trying to resist fire manip by resisting water manip, it just doesn't work, so their resistance to resistance negation isn't going to work.
- 839
- 384
Souls and Minds in the Honkai series are Type 1 Concepts so I don't think that would do anything if he can't affect it in this key, and Genshin is apart of this cosmology so. I mean I don't care that much, she can be put behind Wang Wei, just pointing this out.
Last edited:
Rikimarox2
He/Him- 9,124
- 5,424
Are they actually considered type 1 as well? Didn't know Genshin had this, but fair enough.
Though, what does Mavuika actually do? Any passives or thought-based attacks that cannot be dodged? Because the passive body suppression of Wang Wei should still be a thing, coupled with much faster reaction speed, ludicrous supernatural luck, etc... I think he has a very solid chance of winning unless she has some bonker passives or smth.
- 7,279
- 6,751
that was nuked here, tough im probably gonna bring it back to anyone who isnt bound by teyvats laws after PO came (Sovereigns, Skirk, Shades and PO themselves)
- 839
- 384
Ah, I didn't know that was a thing. Alright, in that case Wang can keep his spot. She can be probably be above Arthas, not sure about Skarbrand
Last edited:
- 6,440
- 11,196
Depends on what hax the character has. What’s their primary/strongest stuff? Also how skilled are they in combat
- 839
- 384
She has access to this. It's kind of cramped so I'll try to specify the stuff in it that applies to her (Fundamental Mechanisms, Pyro Manipulation, Leylines Manipulation, and Elemental Authority-Archon Physiology), she also has Type 2 Info Manip. For combat prowess she's rates as genius
This is her profile so you can take a look for yourself though. Why is Warhammer not higher, aren't they 1-A smurfs?
Last edited:
- 6,440
- 11,196
Skarbrand is pretty much a haxless brick. He has resistances to pretty much everything apart from a few hax (info manip is one of them) and he has 40K skill scaling which is why the combat thing is semi relevant. The only major hax he has is 1-A (3 layers) soul removal from any cut he gives an opponent.
How combat applicable is the info manip. Pretty much everything else he resists from what I can tell but if the character uses that often then Skarbrand may lose
- 839
- 384
Going by the profile, it seems like Type 2 Info Manip is built into her Elemental Manipulation of Fire/Pyro, and seeing as manipulating the elements is kind of the whole thing with Genshin, I'd imagine she'd be using that pretty often. At least that's what it sounds like to me, but you can ask the verse supporters to be sure.
Last edited:
- 11,502
- 5,331
- Thread starter
- #1,636
Info stuff is not usable they just use it as a mechanic for their stuff they are not directly using it on enemies. Only the superweapon of the ancient dragons have combat info stuff.
- 6,440
- 11,196
You know how strong their soul resistance is?
- 11,502
- 5,331
- Thread starter
- #1,638
couple above baseline not that high.
- 6,440
- 11,196
If it's 2-3 above baseline 1-A then it's basically just a pure fist fight. Neither got the hax to effect the other from what I can tell
- 11,502
- 5,331
- Thread starter
- #1,640
genshin does not have anything close to 1A stuff.
Similar threads
