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Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

Reporting @Hellformer based on this comment as he is linking people's offsite accounts (that of course weren't consented to being given) in a vsmatchup thread, not sure how we feel about it being a persons google accounts but still deserves a warning

Post in thread 'Amazing Spider-Man vs The Invincible Ben (8-3-0)' https://vsbattles.com/threads/amazing-spider-man-vs-the-invincible-ben-8-3-0.179359/post-7090681

Post in thread 'Amazing Spider-Man vs The Invincible Ben (8-3-0)' https://vsbattles.com/threads/amazing-spider-man-vs-the-invincible-ben-8-3-0.179359/post-7081316
 
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Reporting @Hellformer based on this comment as he is linking people's offsite accounts (that of course weren't consented to being given) in a vsmatchup thread, not sure how we feel about it being a persons google accounts but still deserves a warning

Post in thread 'Amazing Spider-Man vs The Invincible Ben (8-3-0)' https://vsbattles.com/threads/amazing-spider-man-vs-the-invincible-ben-8-3-0.179359/post-7090681

Post in thread 'Amazing Spider-Man vs The Invincible Ben (8-3-0)' https://vsbattles.com/threads/amazing-spider-man-vs-the-invincible-ben-8-3-0.179359/post-7081316
Agree with the Warning.
 
Reporting @Hellformer based on this comment as he is linking people's offsite accounts (that of course weren't consented to being given) in a vsmatchup thread, not sure how we feel about it being a persons google accounts but still deserves a warning

Post in thread 'Amazing Spider-Man vs The Invincible Ben (8-3-0)' https://vsbattles.com/threads/amazing-spider-man-vs-the-invincible-ben-8-3-0.179359/post-7090681

Post in thread 'Amazing Spider-Man vs The Invincible Ben (8-3-0)' https://vsbattles.com/threads/amazing-spider-man-vs-the-invincible-ben-8-3-0.179359/post-7081316
To clarify, is a person's personal email address visible from what was provided?
 
To clarify, is a person's personal email address visible from what was provided?
Thankfully not since he has perms in place it seems but the sheer fact that two times now he's tried linking his offsite accounts one in response to a harmless meme post, its clearly showing some bad faith intent there that he's trying so hard to put his info out there
 
Thankfully not since he has perms in place it seems but the sheer fact that two times now he's tried linking his offsite accounts one in response to a harmless meme post, its clearly showing some bad faith intent there that he's trying so hard to put his info out there
According to the link text, it's going to some google drive file preview. I'm not sure if that shares the email of the file owner.

@Hellformer Were you trying to share an image/document or something?
 
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https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/1158522859350667274/1369427542146027642/image0.jpg?ex=681bd248&is=681a80c8&hm=22b3ccfa83ec0fcb260ffe3005161baf1bf4e6ee68fd00bbc13691a5ebb3a9f6&
Hellformer you piece of shit, its just a thread, why are you saying creepy shit like this, like knowing my gmail. At the end of the day its just Lifting Strength 😭😭😭😭
Can you clarify as to what kind of file was linked?
 
Can you clarify as to what kind of file was linked?
I don’t even know, he sent this link before in the thread but i never clicked on any. It was until he sent this type of link again with that wording it that way “if this is Baken’s account”, so i don’t know what the hell he is trying to say or imply or contents of said gmail, and i don’t wanna know
 
I'm not sure if that shares the email of the file owner.
This guy is trying to bait me with the Access Request.
Earlier into the thread, he posted a Google doc or drive shit that requires access, which reveals the gmail whoever asks

So the moment we got to this
https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/1158522859350667274/1369427542146027642/image0.jpg?ex=681bd248&is=681a80c8&hm=22b3ccfa83ec0fcb260ffe3005161baf1bf4e6ee68fd00bbc13691a5ebb3a9f6&
He knows the email of someone via the request access, but he isn’t sure if it is me, so some dude who saw the thread clicked on it and request access themselves, rip casualty
 
To clarify, it was just a screenshot of a discord chat, not that I intended to leak anyone's Gmail account or something. This is either a heavy misunderstanding or IDK man. Wait I'll share the ss

Edit: Here
 
Thankfully not since he has perms in place it seems but the sheer fact that two times now he's tried linking his offsite accounts one in response to a harmless meme post, its clearly showing some bad faith intent there that he's trying so hard to put his info out there
Yeah clearly leaked his bank info or something smh.
Here's the ss incase it's not visible to you, its a meme
 
To clarify, it was just a screenshot of a discord chat, not that I intended to leak anyone's Gmail account or something. This is either a heavy misunderstanding or IDK man. Wait I'll share the ss

Edit: Here
Yeah clearly leaked his bank info or something smh.
Here's the ss incase it's not visible to you, its a meme
Okay, this seems to be cleared up then apologies. You did link a google drive account and twice and asked if it was his account but since the content was locked we kinda had no ones words but your own saying its his accounts which would have very much so been report worthy enough for a warning.

I've removed the unnecessary comments as to not clog the thread as well
 
Okay, this seems to be cleared up then apologies. You did link a google drive and twice and asked if it was his account but since the content was locked we kinda had no ones words but your own saying its his accounts which would have very much so been report worthy enough for a warning.

I've removed the unnecessary comments as to not clog the thread as well
The Google account belongs to me, not him or someone else.
Edit: Stop deleting my comments
Yes and why would I leak my own account?🤷‍♂️
The entire point of this report isn't even report worthy atp
 
The Google account belongs to me, not him or someone else.
Brother you've seen the SC of your own chat from the other perspective so I'm not sure why even make this stance? it does not say your name on it. Again we can't tell it was your own account and only had your word saying it was baken's account you were sending hence why @Firestorm808 asked you who the account belonged to that you were sending and the other SCs
 
Brother you've seen the SC of your own chat from the other perspective so I'm not sure why even make this stance? it does not say your name on it. Again we can't tell it was your own account and only had your word saying it was baken's account you were sending hence why @Firestorm808 asked you who the account belonged to that you were sending and the other SCs
When I claimed the ss to be Baken's account, I meant the discord account. You assumed that I've leaked his email or some private info.
 
Edit: Stop deleting my comments
I've deleted two comments one is you cursing someone out and the other is you seeking out conflict neither of which are needed to evaluate a RvR report, I think that's more than appropriate.
When I claimed the ss to be Baken's account, I meant the discord account
That's fine, it's context which we have now but was not clearly visible at the time, again we only had your word linking a GD saying it was Baken's account, the drive link was protected which prevented people from seeing the contents which we assumed was because of Baken's privacy settings not your own as nothing suggested it was your own account and your own word said otherwise.

regardless again the confusion has been sorted and I've already given my apologies for the misunderstanding, don't drag this on
 
I've deleted two comments one is you cursing someone out and the other is you seeking out conflict neither of which are needed to evaluate a RvR report, I think that's more than appropriate.
If someone did that to me (Baken did right above), and his comment wasn't deleted then why can't I? Who didn't do anything wrong? I hope this site is just enough right? You either delete all the curseful comments (which you should) or don't do it at all.
That's fine context which we have now but was not clearly visible, again we only had your word linking a GD saying it was Baken's account, the drive link was protected which prevented people from seeing the contents which we assumed was because of Baken's privacy settings not your own as nothing suggested it was your own account and your own word said otherwise.

regardless again the confusion has been sorted and I've already given my apologies for the misunderstanding,
Fine
don't drag this on
Clarifying my stance and providing evidence in my favor isn't dragging
 
If someone did that to me (Baken did right above), and his comment wasn't deleted then why can't I? Who didn't do anything wrong? I hope this site is just enough right? You either delete all the curseful comments (which you should) or don't do it at all.
It’s discretionary/situational. Considering that the initial belief was that you were doxxing someone, that kinda overshadowed the slight aggression from the other guy, and it was overlooked. But hey if it means that much to ya, I’ll delete his comment.
Clarifying my stance and providing evidence in my favor isn't dragging
Your stance was clarified, and there was agreement between you and dale. Any discussion after that (like the slew of questions above) you can talk to them about outside of the RvR thread (which, mind you, sends notifs out to basically every staff member). So please use MWs in the future (including any intended replies to this message).
 
It’s discretionary/situational. Considering that the initial belief was that you were doxxing someone, that kinda overshadowed the slight aggression from the other guy, and it was overlooked. But hey if it means that much to ya, I’ll delete his comment.
Good
Your stance was clarified, and there was agreement between you and dale. Any discussion after that (like the slew of questions above) you can talk to them about outside of the RvR thread (which, mind you, sends notifs out to basically every staff member). So please use MWs in the future (including any intended replies to this message).
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Hello.

GodlyCharmander wonders if he can be allowed to come back to our community after being banned for 3 years.


I personally do not mind, as I think that he has been punished enough for his transgressions, and he seems to have learned to behave considerably better. 🙏
So what should we do regarding GodlyCharmander? 🙏
 
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So what should we do regarding GodlyCharmander? 🙏
Still a no.

There have been far too many cases of making socks; and all those times we gave them a test to say "If you can promise to wait a whole year without making a sock, you may come back to propose." In which, Charmander failed that test given they made a sock half way through. Not to mention, there have been multiple reports of catfishing, similar to what ImmortalDread did. Socks often identified as being transgender female when their main account identified as cisgendered male. Dread also did and said a lot of creepy stuff online, and coming back also made them a rage baiter, so those supposed self misgendering examples are no where near as bad as Dread. But Charmander has definitely made a lot more socks which is more consistently agreed to be permaban worthy. There's also a similar issue as Misaka Mikoto, where Charmander is reportedly unable to shape up long term. Even if they apologize one day and seem to be on better terms than they used to, it isn't long before they tend to return to their old habits.
Let him stay banned.
 
Okay. That is unfortunate. 🙏
 
Are any other staff members here willing to give GodlyCharmander a final chance? 🙏
 
Well, from what I recall, several years ago GodlyCharmander severely insulted AKM and got banned as a result, and then he created a few sockpuppets that increased the ban to permanent, but then he made an agreement with @Mr. Bambu that if he did not create any sockpuppet for a year, we should listen to his appeal, and now that time has roughly passed. But I may misremember, so well-informed corrections are appreciated. 🙏
 
Thank you for your help. 🙏

To further contribute to this timeline:

September 30, 2022: Charmander blows up via a very rude rant against AKM sama. He is initially banned for 3 months, but it is then extended to 1 year.

Unknown date: Charmander requests that his ban is made permanent instead.

October 7 and 9, 2022: Charmander tried to register to our forum with two rejected accounts.



October 14, 2022: Charmander succeeded to join our forum with the Tiokill account.


December 28, 2022: Tiokill was banned for being a sockpuppet account. Charmander's permanent ban is solidified as a consequence.

December 29, 2022: Charmander promises me to not create any more sockpuppet accounts.

https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Message_Wall:Antvasima?threadId=4400000000003485729

February 28, 2023: The Sans015 account joins our forum.


March 23, 2023: Sans015 is reported as being a sockpuppet of Charmander, and is permanently banned by Medeus on March 27, 2023.

https://vsbattles.com/threads/rule-violation-reports-new-forum.107529/page-452#post-5599207

April 4, 2023: The Sans015 account attempts to appeal his ban, but it fails.

https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Message_Wall:Antvasima?threadId=4400000000003523476

May 17, 2023: The Yellow Topaz account joins this forum.

May 22, 2023: Further evidence is provided by StrymULTRA that Sans015 is a Charmander sockpuppet.

https://vsbattles.com/threads/rule-violation-reports-new-forum.107529/post-5769822

June 29, 2023: Maverick temporarily bans the Topaz account for toxicity.

September 22, 2023: Charmander appeals to have the ban for his main account lifted.

October 1, 2023: Charmander is told to wait for a year with good behaviour (no rule-breaking) in order to be allowed to appeal again.

https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Message_Wall:Antvasima?threadId=4400000000003594668

May 23, 2024, Charmander appeals for lifting the ban for his original account again, and we notice that Topaz is yet another sockpuppet account in conjunction.

https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Message_Wall:Antvasima?threadId=4400000000003684731

I suppose that this does in fact look very bad, despite that I feel sorry for him. 🙁
He’s received leniency, more leniency than most. Reading through this, I’d hesitate to let him back.

It hasn’t even been a year since Topaz was banned.
 
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Well, from what I recall, several years ago GodlyCharmander severely insulted AKM and got banned as a result, and then he created a few sockpuppets that increased the ban to permanent, but then he made an agreement with @Mr. Bambu that if he did not create any sockpuppet for a year, we should listen to his appeal, and now that time has roughly passed. But I may misremember, so well-informed corrections are appreciated. 🙏
I think if it was agreed upon (I don't remember clearly if it was), it was agreed a year before the Topaz account was discovered to be his. So he did cause several problems during that year when he wasn't supposed to.
Post in thread 'Rule Violation Reports (New forum)' https://vsbattles.com/threads/rule-violation-reports-new-forum.107529/post-6552118

He actually caused a lot of problems here as Tiokill, like accusing several members and staff of helping him with sock accounts and such.
Post in thread 'Rule Violation Reports (New forum)' https://vsbattles.com/threads/rule-violation-reports-new-forum.107529/post-5338511
 
Are any other staff members here willing to give GodlyCharmander a final chance? 🙏
I certainly believe that people can grow overtime, and I do respect his dedication after all this time to be given another chance.
Though I am a very forgiving person in general, and also respect that a lot of other staff have serious concerns about it.

So I would be fine with a final chance, but of course it would indeed be final, and another infraction would rule out any further chance of appeal.
 
I'm in favor of leniency, but at this point the staff team has spoken. I think it's just a waste of resources to continue gathering arguments and evidence on the subject.
Well, you, me, and FinePoint seem to accept giving Charmander one final chance at least, but there is insufficient consensus here so far. 🙏
 
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