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Flowey vs Mahito (UT vs. JJK) (GRACE)

Looking back at this, Mahito seems have abstract existent type 2 due to being a curse. Would it do effect here?
No. AE 2 is basically a glorified Type 8 immortality, that being his soul.

If Shigaraki stomped Mahito by decaying his soul, Flowey can do the same by doing damage to it until destroying it too, given that Mahito's survivability quite literally relies on that.
 
No. AE 2 is basically a glorified Type 8 immortality, that being his soul.

If Shigaraki stomped Mahito by decaying his soul, Flowey can do the same by doing damage to it until destroying it too, given that Mahito's survivability quite literally relies on that.
It's from here


Incorporeality & Abstract Existence (Type 2; Cursed Spirits are manifestations born out of people's mind, thoughts and negative emotions)
 
It’s looking like Flowey has some big advantages with the speed gap, having resets, and lacking a soul for Mahito to control. I’m voting for him.
 
Is Flowey's soul hax layered? If Mahito resists soul hax, then what could Flowey do?
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Is Flowey's soul hax layered? If Mahito resists soul hax, then what could Flowey do?
Undertale's entire thing is attacking the soul literally the same as JJK, as said in Frisk's profile:
Yet Flowey has this:
Verse equalization rules makes so that compatible mechanics will be treated as the same cross-verse, and I see no difference between UT and JJK soul attacks and how the Resistances work.
 
Flowey is able to interact with the soul, I think it's pretty obvious that Flowey is able to kill Mahito bro
I get that he endures soul attacks but how is Flowey supposed to kill him if he does that?
I get that.
Verse equalization rules makes so that compatible mechanics will be treated as the same cross-verse, and I see no difference between UT and JJK soul attacks and how the Resistances work.
Exactly. They both resist soul manipulation so I don't see how Mahito dies from getting his soul slashed or whatever, especially considering the fact that Mahito is higher in durability.
 
Exactly. They both resist soul manipulation so I don't see how Mahito dies from getting his soul slashed or whatever, especially considering the fact that Mahito is higher in durability.
UT's mechanics make so that Mahito's SOUL here would have only 20 HP, and the gap isn't a one-shot one, so Flowey at worst would deal 1 damage per hit.

Besides, you're contradicting yourself, you claim that Mahito won't die from soul destruction, but then you quote the part where Mahito would be fine as long as his soul is intact.

Aka take one:
  • Mahito is completely immune to SOUL attacks and will constantly regenerate his physical body
  • Mahito will keep to live even after SOUL destruction
And guess what? Neither is true.
 
I get that he endures soul attacks but how is Flowey supposed to kill him if he does that?

I get that.

Exactly. They both resist soul manipulation so I don't see how Mahito dies from getting his soul slashed or whatever, especially considering the fact that Mahito is higher in durability.
Through cumulative damage bro, not like Mahito has the ability to regenerate his own soul or heal it, it'll be slow, but eventually Flowey will land enough hits to permanently kill him.
 
UT's mechanics make so that Mahito's SOUL here would have only 20 HP, and the gap isn't a one-shot one, so Flowey at worst would deal 1 damage per hit.
Nothing is really stopping Mahito from two tapping him. Then Flowey would just do true reset, restart the fight, and end up the same way.
Through cumulative damage bro, not like Mahito has the ability to regenerate his own soul or heal it, it'll be slow, but eventually Flowey will land enough hits to permanently kill him.
He would need to get past the durability in order to actually kill him.
 
Nothing is really stopping Mahito from two tapping him. Then Flowey would just do true reset, restart the fight, and end up the same way.

He would need to get past the durability in order to actually kill him.
With each battle Flowey would adapt better to Mahito and become better at fighting him, Mahito would remain the same being constantly attacked and hit by an enemy 5~6 times faster than him, who would know exactly what he will do next and who is immune to most of his arsenal.
 
The attacks are probably gonna be a hard tickle at most, maybe a pinch.
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Does not work like that. Just like you need x7.5 in AP to one-shot, you need a x7.5 in dura to be totally immune and receive no damage, as that's always how the reverse was treated here.

You're just making up stuff now.
 
Wouldn't you think Mahito would be the same?

Oh and uhh.. no restrictions on ISBDK. 💀
He doesn’t retain his memories, Flowey does.

Mahito’s resistance just means he can take some attacks to the soul when normal people would die in one. He’s threatened multiple times by people who can actually target it. Even with the AP gap, he’ll die eventually. Plus Flowey could just stall until he runs out of Cursed Energy and then he wouldn’t be able to regenerate.
 
What's happening if Mahito pops ISBDK?
Flowey just LOADs and every progress Mahito did, both in memories and physically will reset too.

Pretending Mahito would remember that when no one bedsides Frisk and Flowey does is asinine (plus play the games instead of making these claims, thanks).
 
You think I didn't read that?

My point still stands.
You say mahito's soul is what keeping him alive when curse spirits in general have abstract existence via powered by people's thoughts and minds. Pretty sure you need to negate their abstractions for permanent kill
 
You say mahito's soul is what keeping him alive when curse spirits in general have abstract existence via powered by people's thoughts and minds. Pretty sure you need to negate their abstractions for permanent kill
I do believe Cursed Spirits reincarnate after a while, but the timeframe for that is too long for it to ever be relevant here.
 
Flowey just LOADs and every progress Mahito did, both in memories and physically will reset too.
Doesn't everything but Flowey's memories get reset too?
Nothing is stopping Mahito from just popping spirited body every save file and destroying Flowey.
 
Doesn't everything but Flowey's memories get reset too?
Nothing is stopping Mahito from just popping spirited body every save file and destroying Flowey.
Mahito loses range and regeneration is the problem with that. Flowey would just learn his attack patterns and stay out of range to destroy his soul.
 
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