Regular guy vs little girl [9-4-0]

[Entity]

as far as i remember it would take tens of seconds for someone to get knocked out and several minutes to die however Regulus is pretty superhuman in terms of willpower and might just not get knocked in the normal time out of sheer spite
Either way it wouldnt be enough to permanently stop him

If his ability is deactivated while he is in space and then he activates it he will not be able to go back to Earth tho, like he did not come back from a hole

 

[Entity]

There are arguments suggesting Tatsumaki could figure out Regulus’ link to his wives, but this scenario is highly unlikely and requires too many steps.

She could recognize Regulus's energy inside one of his wives

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

If his ability is deactivated while he is in space and then he activates it he will not be able to go back to Earth tho, like he did not come back from a hole

yeah cuz he was literally crushed into a meatball

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

She could recognize Regulus's energy inside one of his wives

there is no such thing as "Regulus energy"

 

[Entity]

Regulus energy

Do living beings have vital energy?

 

[Entity]

yeah cuz he was literally crushed into a meatball

Exactly

 

[AThe1412]

If his ability is deactivated while he is in space and then he activates it he will not be able to go back to Earth tho, like he did not come back from a hole

Every single one of his bones were broken and buried in the earth of the hole that he himself had dug. That's why he couldn't escape.

 

[Entity]

Every single one of his bones were broken and buried in the earth of the hole that he himself had dug. That's why he couldn't escape.

If he is thrown in space, with no object to touch and nothing that could give him a platform to jump from how would he come back using his authority if it can only bring him to the place where he activated it last time? Space in this case

 

[AThe1412]

If he is thrown in space, with no object to touch and nothing that could give him a platform to jump from how would he come back using his authority if it can only bring him to the place where he activated it last time? Space in this case

He'll fly as his profile says? You're acting like he'll die instantly in space the moment his ability is turned off.

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

If he is thrown in space, with no object to touch and nothing that could give him a platform to jump from how would he come back using his authority if it can only bring him to the place where he activated it last time? Space in this case

he can probably just time stop a general area and use that to come back. Funnily enough earth's atmosphere is actually 10,000kms+ so he could just stop what little air exists around him to come back too

 

[Entity]

He'll fly as his profile says? You're acting like he'll die instantly in space the moment his ability is turned off.

Forgot he could fly back to Earth since he didn't do that to save himself when Reinhard threw him to the ground, anyway, even a few seconds of exposure in space would be fatal, even if he came back to the Earth, he will die if he tries to hold his breath while staying into space as the air in his lungs will cause lung tissue to rupture and cause air bubbles to form in his bloodstream

 

[Entity]

he can probably just time stop a general area and use that to come back

He can timestop a vacuum?

Funnily enough earth's atmosphere is actually 10,000kms+ so he could just stop what little air exists around him to come back too

if his reaction speed permits him to understand he lost his powers before ending up in space yes

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Forgot he could fly back to Earth since he didn't do that to save himself when Reinhard threw him to the ground, anyway, even a few seconds of exposure in space would be fatal, even if he came back to the Earth, he will die if he tries to hold his breath while staying into space as the air in his lungs will cause lung tissue to rupture and cause air bubbles to form in his bloodstream

he hasnt been breathing for over a century lol, also all damage stops when he stops his time. This is why he could stop himself from drowning and slowly crawled back up. So even IF something in him ruptures it wont really do much especially when he held on after literally being turned to meat pretzel

He can timestop a vacuum?

I dont see why not? its not like his timestop is limited to physical things since it also keeps mental and soul attacks out

if his reaction speed permits him to understand he lost his powers before ending up in space yes

"before"
No actually he can be in space, realize he has lost his ability and restart it with lions heart then instantly FTL ram back at full speed well before any permanent damage even starts to settle in

 

[Entity]

This is why he could stop himself from drowning and slowly crawled back up. So even IF something in him ruptures it wont really do much especially when he held on after literally being turned to meat pretzel

Okay okay, understood

I dont see why not? its not like his timestop is limited to physical things since it also keeps mental and soul attacks out

Eh, but even if he stops it how can he touch it to give himself propulsion? Anyway, he can fly back to Earth as stated above

No actually he can be in space, realize he has lost his ability and restart it with lions heart then instantly FTL ram back at full speed well before any permanent damage even starts to settle in

Okay, but first I would like to ask this, why didn't he stop himself from slamming into the ground so he could survive Reinhard's attack?

 

[MrTayman616]

BFR wouldn't work.

It would work. The point of BFR isn't just "wait until he goes too far and disappear".

Tatsumaki can understand when Regulus is using her authority. The moment Regulus loses his connection to his wifes, she would know. Her range is more than enough to kill him from that far.

 

[Zabazab]

It would work.

No. And before you argue once again "but it says the limit is 100km" no. It doesn't. It at least exceeds 100km since tossing him into space does not work. If Reinhard, who is much faster than Tatsumaki, can't launch Regulus far enough away to extinguish Little King before he just comes back due to his invincibility, then Tatsumaki BFRing him just will not work. And again; Regulus can just decide that telekinesis doesn't work on him whenever he wants.

Tatsumaki has a theoretical win condition where Regulus lets her analyze all of his brides to find Little King, and then performs closed heart surgery on all 53 brides, and then Regulus sits on his hands for all 5 seconds of his invincibility.

But that's simply not a realistic path when even being grazed by something imbued with Lion's Heart is fatal. Dodging grains of dirt and water droplets is not feasible, and a mere flick of the wrist is all it takes to send an attack fast enough to blitz flying at Tats.

Just as a chill ran up Rem’s back, the man took a step forward. His drooping arm lifted, sweeping up a small gust of wind. Then, on the same line as the motion of his arm― The earth, the air, and the world parted in two.

Round and round and round, Crusch’s severed left shoulder flew into the air. Still grasping onto the sheath of a Knight’s sword, the arm dropped down in a spray of blood. Crusch, blown off her feet by the impact, fell to the ground, convulsing in pain and mass loss of blood.

 

[Entity]

Tatsumaki has a theoretical win condition where Regulus lets her analyze all of his brides to find Little King, and then performs closed heart surgery on all 53 brides, and then Regulus sits on his hands for all 5 seconds of his invincibility.

She just needs to take a look at them, even if they are outside of the town and she can find Regulus's heart and then she can destroy it with a thought, nothing too complicated and she can do that while dodging

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

I cant see Tatsumaki dodging something Reinhard had trouble dodging especially when she is slower

 

[MrTayman616]

No. And before you argue once again "but it says the limit is 100km" no. It doesn't. It at least exceeds 100km since tossing him into space does not work. If Reinhard, who is much faster than Tatsumaki, can't launch Regulus far enough away to extinguish Little King before he just comes back due to his invincibility, then Tatsumaki BFRing him just will not work. And again; Regulus can just decide that telekinesis doesn't work on him whenever he wants.

No? Reinhard didn't even try to do anything like that and their arsenal here is different as well. Reinhard was staying on a range where he could talk to Subaru with telepathy.

"At least above 100km" yet is inferior to Tatsumaki's range here. Tatsumaki's speed and range is more than enough to send him within an instant.

But that's simply not a realistic path when even being grazed by something imbued with Lion's Heart is fatal. Dodging grains of dirt and water droplets is not feasible, and a mere flick of the wrist is all it takes to send an attack fast enough to blitz flying at Tats.

Regulus realizing he was attacking a decoy.

I cant see Tatsumaki dodging something Reinhard had trouble dodging especially when she is slower

Which attacks or etc. were troublesome for him?

 

[SatellaTheWoE]

Regulus realizing he was attacking a decoy.

she placed a decoy against a homing attack, how would she do the same against an AoE that blitzes her?

 

[Entity]

she placed a decoy against a homing attack, how would she do the same against an AoE that blitzes her?

She sits to other side of the city while Regulus continues to attack decoys without being able to find the real Tatsumaki

 

[AThe1412]

I keep seeing these decoys being brought up but don't see them mentioned anywhere on Tatsumaki's profile. What do they look like? (Wait, nevermind. It's mentioned in her Intelligence section. I still want to see what it looks like though because the link is dead)

 

[FantaRin_The_First]

Okay, I missed a lot in this thread (and haven't kept up with OPM in a while). Um... Would Tatsumaki just crush the heads of Regulus' wives upon noticing them or smth? IIRC, SBA makes the fighters assume that their opponents are fighting by their own will and wish to cause severe harm and that them losing would have dire consequences. Wouldn't this make Tatsumaki think Regulus' wives are "willing" opponents and not have an IC reason to not kill 'em?

 

[Trxyway]

She just needs to take a look at them

And then what? Noone is yet to provide anything that proves tatsumaki can see through objects/people, aka X-ray vision or anything close to that

 

[AThe1412]

Okay, so the decoys work by imbuing objects with psychic energy to trick opponents who can sense it hence why it worked so well against Psykorochi. Regulus can't sense psychic energy. Why does it work on him again?

 

[MrTayman616]

Okay, so the decoys work by imbuing objects with psychic energy to trick opponents who can sense it hence why it worked so well against Psykorochi. Regulus can't sense psychic energy. Why does it work on him again?

It's shown to be good enough to fool average people and even genius psychics. Like Homeless Emperor.

 

[Entity]

Okay, so the decoys work by imbuing objects with psychic energy to trick opponents who can sense it hence why it worked so well against Psykorochi. Regulus can't sense psychic energy. Why does it work on him again?

Same way it worked with Homeless Emperor, when she flies she covers herself in her green light and does the same with the decoy, that is why Homeless Emperor, a normal guy with a strong ability, thought he hit her

And then what? Noone is yet to provide anything that proves tatsumaki can see through objects/people, aka X-ray vision or anything close to that

In the scans sent above she was able to find people and recognize them through hundreds of meters of stone, she can find the wife with a second energy inside of her body and then deduce it must be correlated to Regulus. She destroys the second heart like she did with the pill inside of her sister's body and then ends the fight

 

[Trxyway]

I should also note that basic ki reading allowed Garou to locate internal organs. This is something that nearly every top fighter in OPM has (Tats included)

I'm assuming Qi = Energy?, if so this scan doesn’t prove Garou can (literally) see internal organs, it only shows that he sensed the energy/qi the core was emitting. The scan literally states, "Whenever it regenerated, a certain body part emanated Qi," meaning Garou wasn’t detecting the physical location of the organ itself, he was sensing the energy signature it was giving off while it was active.

Now apply that to Regulus. Regulus has no heart, so there is no energy to detect. Little King also does not emit any energy, meaning Tatsumaki wouldn’t have anything to pick up on even if we assume she could sense energy like Garou.

Also something i noticed but i'm unsure of, Garou himself says, "I've seen something like that before," while thinking of Orochi, who visibly has some kind of core in his chest (bottom left of the panel). Whether that core is for regeneration or not, or even why Garou made that connection, isn’t clear. But this just further shows that Garou is recognizing a pattern based on past experiences, not scanning for internal organs.

So no, imo this isn’t proof that basic ki reading allows someone to directly locate internal organs, and even if Tatsumaki had the same ability, there would be nothing for her to sense when it comes to Regulus's Little King.

 

[Zabazab]

No? Reinhard didn't even try to do anything like that and their arsenal here is different as well. Reinhard was staying on a range where he could talk to Subaru with telepathy.

"At least above 100km" yet is inferior to Tatsumaki's range here. Tatsumaki's speed and range is more than enough to send him within an instant.

You speak as though you have not read the statement that I've sent twice now. Here it is again.

Regulus realizing he was attacking a decoy.

This isn't really a starting move is it? Regulus liable to yap until he's offended, Tats is likely to try to crush him while being cheeky.

 

[MrTayman616]

You speak as though you have not read the statement that I've sent twice now. Here it is again.

It doesn't change the "at least 100km" here. It's not something to make assumption like "Reinhard is so strong, so Tatsumaki can't do it, Tatsumaki wouldn't throw him that far" etc etc.

Reinhard's range in the profile also doesn't support it much here. Or having way less lifting strength than Tatsumaki etc etc.

Also Tatsumaki doesn't only send people to Space, but between cities of OPM (which is higher than hundreds of kilometers)

This isn't really a starting move is it? Regulus liable to yap until he's offended, Tats is likely to try to crush him while being cheeky.

Except Tatsumaki realizes it from the start that he's an spatial distortion. She starts with a good understanding of his ability here.

 

[Trxyway]

In the scans sent above she was able to find people and recognize them through hundreds of meters of stone, she can find the wife with a second energy inside of her body and then deduce it must be correlated to Regulus.

I’m just going off the scans you gave me, and based on what I’m seeing since i'm unfamiliar with the series, but I don’t see how this confirms Tatsumaki has actual x-ray vision.

My first question is, why wouldn’t Drive Knight have telekinetic energy just because he’s a robot? From what I know, Tatsumaki controlled a TV using her psychic powers, so clearly, her abilities aren’t limited to just organic beings. Does telekinetic energy only apply to humans or something? I’m not familiar with OPM’s mechanics, so you’d have to clarify that.

Regarding the “x-ray vision” stuff..the scans you provided only show circles, not detailed visuals of what’s inside the buildings, let alone people. If she really had full x-ray vision, she wouldn’t just see vague circle shaped indicators of where people are, she’d be able to see their full shapes and details. The fact that Drive Knight was also displayed as just circles, makes it unclear if she was actually seeing through the walls or if she was just detecting their presence through some kind of extrasensory ability.

Her profile even states she can sense and pinpoint their whereabouts while they were underground, but nothing in what you showed me suggests she can look through a body and say, “Oh, this guy doesn’t have a heart.” If she had x-ray vision, we would have seen her actually looking through things and seeing specific details, not just location markers.

Honestly based on what I’m seeing from the scans you provided, I don’t see how she would be able to look at Regulus and just know his heart is missing. Sensing someone’s presence and actually seeing inside their body are two completely different things, and I don’t see anything here that confirms the latter

 

[Entity]

I said she would sense another presence inside of one of the wives, that's what I said and then like she did with a pill inside of Fubuki's body she would also extract that presence (Regulus's heart) from inside of one of the girls.
From Regulus Tatsumaki would feel the spatial distortions as everything else is shut down

 

[MrTayman616]

I don't think Tatsumaki senses their heart like that at all. I mean she could probably do it if she wanted but i don't think she would even realize it's her wifes that has his heart (she doesn't even know he has wifes)

 

[Trxyway]

I said she would sense another presence inside of one of the wives, that's what I said and then like she did with a pill inside of Fubuki's body she would also extract that presence (Regulus's heart) from inside of one of the girls.

I need the pill scan, or chapter, because it's not on her page.

 

[Entity]

I need the pill scan, or chapter, because it's not on her page.

It's in the limited durability negation part

I don't think Tatsumaki senses their heart like that at all. I mean she could probably do it if she wanted but i don't think she would even realize it's her wifes that has his heart (she doesn't even know he has wifes

The fact is, if she tries what she can against Regulus, at some point during the battle she will evacuate the people inside and nearby the city (if in the scenario is populated and there are other people other than Regulus's wives, I don't know how it works in the site), while doing so she will perceive someone with two energies, one coming from her and the other coming from the heart, that's what I think at least, I may be wrong

 

[Kachon123]

if in the scenario is populated and there are other people other than Regulus's wives

SBA stated that nobody outside of those participating in the battle are allowed to influence the match in any way, so the location is unpopulated other than Tatsumaki, Regulus, and his wives.

 

[FantaRin_The_First]

Since SBA is in-play, and Regulus' profile does have any info in regards to this, wouldn't his wives just spawn close to Regulus by virtue of being standard equipment? And from there, Tatsumaki could just immediately kill them on-the-spot via SBA making her consider his wives as "opponents"?

IIRC, this conclusion of Regulus' wives "spawning" close to him even happened once or twice in his past matches.

 

[Kachon123]

And from there, Tatsumaki could just immediately kill them on-the-spot via SBA making her consider his wives as "opponents"

Not could, she would. If Fubuki didn't warn her that her subordinates were being controlled, Tatsumaki would have killed them alongside Do-S. The same thing would happen here except the wives are enemies so she wouldn't hold back.

 

[Trxyway]

It's in the limited durability negation part

She didn’t just sense another presence inside her body. She copied the wavelength of Apollo’s telekinetic energy to locate the pill because it was an inorganic object that specifically reacted to Apollo’s power.

Tatsumaki herself says, "By copying the wavelength of your telekinetic energy, I was able to find any objects it would react to, thanks for the hint." This means she was only able to track the pill because it was responding to Apollo’s telekinesis.

Apollo even revealed that the pill existed beforehand when he said, "The capsule of sleep that breaks at my telekinetic signal. Shall I break the capsule full of deadly poison next?" Tatsumaki didn’t randomly sense a foreign object inside Fubuki, she was given a hint and used Apollo’s signal to track it.

Later, when Tatsumaki successfully stopped the capsule from breaking, Apollo was shocked, saying, "The capsule isn’t reacting," which further proves that her detection was based on its response to telekinetic energy, not some ability to naturally detect organic foreign bodies.

Regulus’s heart being missing does not give off any energy. Little King also has no psychic or telekinetic signal for her to track. So unless Regulus straight up announces his weakness like Apollo did, there’s no way Tatsumaki is magically finding it.

 

[StormAcci]

Since SBA is in-play, and Regulus' profile does have any info in regards to this, wouldn't his wives just spawn close to Regulus by virtue of being standard equipment? And from there, Tatsumaki could just immediately kill them on-the-spot via SBA making her consider his wives as "opponents"?

IIRC, this conclusion of Regulus' wives "spawning" close to him even happened once or twice in his past matches.

I think the OP has to specify that. In character, Regulus generally keeps his wives far away from him. But if that's the condition of SBA, then I suppose his wives would indeed spawn with him.

That said, the enemy here is Regulus, I'm not convinced that SBA would make Tatsumaki instantly kill his wives. Unless you could explain your reasoning more clearly.