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Powers & Abilities Evaluations Thread
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Wikisource
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Is that gemstone a fundalmental aspect of their existance?
Seems like Extrasensory Perception.
Wikisource
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What is the ability to see events that happened in the past called? It works like precognition but in reverse, that is, instead of seeing the future, you see the past.
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Not directly stated to be, but it essentially holds their body, soul, and history. So I guess you could say that.
Wikisource
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So Ig it could be concept...
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It isn't abstract though.
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Wikisource
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So is there anything else that describes its characteristics?
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Figured I'd just do this here before putting it in a CRT. For the people knowledgeable on Information Manipulation Type 2, do you believe the following blog qualifies?
vsbattles.fandom.com
BreezeHM/Info Type 2 Wank
vsbattles.fandom.com
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Nah, I don't see info type 2 for this, the mentions of knowledge being tied into their powers doesn't help with that fact considering that getting powers from knowledge/enlightenment is not just a common way to gain powers in cultivation stuff, but there is the simple answer of the knowledge being what allows them to action their powers into existence, it isn't like he was stripped of the potential to gain back his power, he just lost the knowledge on how to use itFigured I'd just do this here before putting it in a CRT. For the people knowledgeable on Information Manipulation Type 2, do you believe the following blog qualifies?
BreezeHM/Info Type 2 Wank
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Didn't i already disagree with this being Info 2, bro?Figured I'd just do this here before putting it in a CRT. For the people knowledgeable on Information Manipulation Type 2, do you believe the following blog qualifies?
BreezeHM/Info Type 2 Wank
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No. I showed you the Origin Essence Crystal alone which you saw in this thread. The blog above was proposing that the very same Information constructs and builds reality, unlike the previous which is only for an individual
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Bump
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I know decreasing dmg from an attack is dmg reduction, but the same goes for something with durability negation capabilities? Like if you get hit by that kind of move and it lessens down the harming it does on you
Rikimarox2
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I assume this would grant NEP2 as well ND, while giving resistances? Or just NEP?
Digital_Franz
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It looks like it will give Soul Manipulation since it's not Abstract.
I would say no, it's just Statistic Amplification and Statistic Reduction.
Um, Memory Manipulation, Soul Manipulation and probably Interdimensional Range.
Depends on the context, often it can be because the Durability Negation is Limited or because the character had a Minor Resistance.
From what I see it's just NEP 1.
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Rikimarox2
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If someone could take a single layer of space, and recreate the entire universe from it, would that imply/grant anything?
Admittedly should've mentioned this, but characters in the verse could affect "Voids", but cannot affect this. So I assume NEP2? Then there's another nonexistence stuff in the verse, where even those who could affect the previous guy cannot affect them, so is that an extra layer?
Digital_Franz
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Hmm it depends greatly on what the feat involves. It could just be Restoration or something else.
No, just layered NEP 1, 1 layer. For it to be NEP 2 it has to be more fundamental than these "Voids", being a non-existent that lacks their "non-existent".
Another layer.
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It does not qualify for Info Type 2, but it still is without a doubt metaphysical aspects nonetheless.
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Its just a scenario example the following, Hit uses his dura neg ability on a character to harm them and they are able to reduce the dmg they normally do on somebody via their specific energy they got in that moment to achieve this
Digital_Franz
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Seems like a case of Minor Resistance.
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How is it resistance precisely though? It doesnt resist anything
Digital_Franz
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The fact that Durability Negation's damage is reduced shows that there is some resistance, which is why it is Minor.
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Reducing dmg isnt resistance, hence why damage reductiom exists as a power
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Resistance to Fire by proxy gives you some sort of Resistance to Temperature Manipulation ?
If a character is listed to have Resistance to Extreme Heat (due to surviving being trapped in the sun), do I stil have to list Resistance to Fire ?
If a character is listed to have Resistance to Extreme Heat (due to surviving being trapped in the sun), do I stil have to list Resistance to Fire ?
sukuna171
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Contrary to universal understanding of pre-Veil contact philosophy, personhood is measurable.
What defines personhood is consciousness within the principal state of existence, mathematically defined through infinite probability testing by the Vex as our current own timeline. Traversal through other states of being are possible, as proven by my own journey and ascension over my Vex, but this is only true traversal when the affected entity is the principal consciousness. If not, it is a different phenomenon entirely.
While Vex, even these older ones, specialize in replicating existing beings in order to determine future possibility, the facsimiles they create are just that: facsimiles. It is only logical to prioritize our timeline of origin, and these duplications share no origin, no connection to the one realm and timeline that matter.
Think of the Primary Query results thus far! What we have seen are facsimiles, unquestionably wrong: small errors in some ways, and in others immense. Each is clearly a response to an original, like variations on a theme. Rachmaninoff may play like Chopin, but he is NOT Chopin.
But with this… there are clear parameters to the query. Memories, personal beliefs, measurable factors. When we think of revolting familiarity, we think of doppelgangers; uncanny valleys that are familiar and strange at once. These are unnatural in the extreme, directly in opposition to the order of the universe. What falls outside of parameters is a twin we cannot trust, for it is not natural. It is not real. It cannot persist.
I believe in my hypothesis. I must trust that I know what I know. The Primary Query continues
What defines personhood is consciousness within the principal state of existence, mathematically defined through infinite probability testing by the Vex as our current own timeline. Traversal through other states of being are possible, as proven by my own journey and ascension over my Vex, but this is only true traversal when the affected entity is the principal consciousness. If not, it is a different phenomenon entirely.
While Vex, even these older ones, specialize in replicating existing beings in order to determine future possibility, the facsimiles they create are just that: facsimiles. It is only logical to prioritize our timeline of origin, and these duplications share no origin, no connection to the one realm and timeline that matter.
Think of the Primary Query results thus far! What we have seen are facsimiles, unquestionably wrong: small errors in some ways, and in others immense. Each is clearly a response to an original, like variations on a theme. Rachmaninoff may play like Chopin, but he is NOT Chopin.
But with this… there are clear parameters to the query. Memories, personal beliefs, measurable factors. When we think of revolting familiarity, we think of doppelgangers; uncanny valleys that are familiar and strange at once. These are unnatural in the extreme, directly in opposition to the order of the universe. What falls outside of parameters is a twin we cannot trust, for it is not natural. It is not real. It cannot persist.
I believe in my hypothesis. I must trust that I know what I know. The Primary Query continues
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Hello everyone, Diodora from 4kota went from being fodder to having one of the coolest abilities in the verse.
Basically his power Is named « Despair » and reflects pretty much anything.
Rothes broke his neck and it basically killed him.
Diodora’s power activated passively and reflected the cause of his death back on Rothes.
When he died a weird substance came out of his body and Diodora absorbed it
Turret the guy that asked Rothes to kill Diodora came to see if the job was done and attacked him when he saw Rothes corpse but the attacks were all reflected.
here he realised that he need to kill his opps to absorb the « substance » and that absorbing the substance grant him all the abilities skills and resistances of those he kill like Rothes « Gate keeper » ability that opens a portal to purgatory. (Diodora resisted the effects of purgatory)
What abilities should all of this grant ?
Causality manipulation for reverting the cause and effects of his own death on his opps ?
Basically his power Is named « Despair » and reflects pretty much anything.
Rothes broke his neck and it basically killed him.
Diodora’s power activated passively and reflected the cause of his death back on Rothes.
When he died a weird substance came out of his body and Diodora absorbed it
Turret the guy that asked Rothes to kill Diodora came to see if the job was done and attacked him when he saw Rothes corpse but the attacks were all reflected.
here he realised that he need to kill his opps to absorb the « substance » and that absorbing the substance grant him all the abilities skills and resistances of those he kill like Rothes « Gate keeper » ability that opens a portal to purgatory. (Diodora resisted the effects of purgatory)
What abilities should all of this grant ?
Causality manipulation for reverting the cause and effects of his own death on his opps ?
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Hey, if someone doesn't have a soul, would that be nep1 aspect 1?
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Idk what is proxy here but if the mechanism here works like usually, ig it can only resist high temperatures.
Not necessary, the solar heat does not come from fire, while fire manipulation is not only attack the opponent by high temperatures.
Looks like passive Damage Transferal and Power Absorption.
If that character doesn't have a body (Nep Nature), so yes.
Digital_Franz
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We are talking about Durability Negation, right? Or I can replace it with "effects" of Durability Negation to be clearer.
I don't think so.
I see Mind Manipulation, Duplication.
Resurrection, Damage Transferal, Power Absorption.
If the soul is essential in the verse then yes.
Hmm, hard to say since I don't know the verse and its context. Possibly, if the Horros use an ability to hide their true nature then the flames nullify that ability.
sukuna171
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Got it, much thanks for the reply
sukuna171
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would this be enough to grant information type 2
Filaments of data stretched across infinity—reality interwoven into silken threads—and Phot0n drifted lazily, mingling the data that defined objective existence with subjective perspective. Reality frayed in the deep Cloud Ark and took down the borders between self and code with it. File requests felt like ants on her skin, and now with lockdown, she could stay here whenever she wanted without any of the messy needs of material reality—no bio breaks or excusing herself from dinner invites.
She stretched and composed herself, turning her perception back toward the shallows, where data shadows cast the impression of streets and buildings in a familiar landscape. The norms stuck to it like a bad faith, but it's also where the games lived. She opened her command prompt, selected an avatar and gender for the day, and turned sideways back to the streets and plazas of the shallow Cloud Ark.
More shallow than ever, he realized.
Recreations of storefronts, furniture, and plants from the material world intruded, spacing out the avant-garde designs created by dedicated ark-heads. The City Council re-zoned much of the main avenue to make the transition easier, but what was the point of a new frontier if you brought the old world with you?
She stretched and composed herself, turning her perception back toward the shallows, where data shadows cast the impression of streets and buildings in a familiar landscape. The norms stuck to it like a bad faith, but it's also where the games lived. She opened her command prompt, selected an avatar and gender for the day, and turned sideways back to the streets and plazas of the shallow Cloud Ark.
More shallow than ever, he realized.
Recreations of storefronts, furniture, and plants from the material world intruded, spacing out the avant-garde designs created by dedicated ark-heads. The City Council re-zoned much of the main avenue to make the transition easier, but what was the point of a new frontier if you brought the old world with you?
CodeCCLL
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Yes it looks like that.
Rikimarox2
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Would this qualify for Info Type 2?
Double Helices, which are just Yin-Yang, exist within the bodies of people (and I think everything else, as Yin-Yang make up the world), and they are considered the Information and History of life. Will those who manipulate such Helices, or destroys them, get Info Type 2, or nah?
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Seems weird but from first glance it just seems like it's talking about DNA which can be said to "record" the history of a persons genetics or evolution and is foundation of life
Rikimarox2
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The problem is that it literally shows the History of someone, even if they reversed in time iirc, and shows what they did in those regressions despite their body not being the same one. Additionally, the Helices are something that is formed, but Yin-Yang, which is what they get information from, exists within the bodies of people.
There is also a statement right after that about the being who did this, with them frolicking between history and life, whatever that means.
Still, if it doesn't seem like it, I'll look for other examples. Thanks!
There is also a statement right after that about the being who did this, with them frolicking between history and life, whatever that means.
Still, if it doesn't seem like it, I'll look for other examples. Thanks!
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