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though if i had to choose to see a fight among these characters it would def be ichigo vs boruto just cause i think a supernatural sword fight (where both parties can fly) would be visually more interesting than the others.

Ishikki would just end up being ichigo playing a bullet hell game where you have to dodge rods and time portals.

Luffy vs ichigo doesnt sound visually interesting at all
 
naruto vs db fights kinda boring tbh


db claps due to sheer stats and if you equalize stats they get clapped mercilessly
 
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This is Base Sasuke, sure, I can concede Naruto is equally as fast as Base Sasuke. 🤷‍♂️
Let’s not forget, Naruto required his clone throwing him to match this Chidori/Sharingan amped Sasuke’s speed. So this is not proof, and even then, Combat/Reaction speed isn’t in question here.
Practically Base Sasuke. I conceded in the first part.
You realize we don’t see the distance covered by either, right? You also realize it’s already been established 3TM Sasuke has faster Travel Speed than Naruto, right? This doesn’t prove anything. Base Naruto has always been able to React & Combat 3TM Sasuke, just not match his Travel speed.
Didn't use the Curse Mark immediately against Team Yamato
That doesn’t therefore mean he was holding back in his Taijutsu or Ninjutsu that he did use. He also attempted to use Kirin, which surpasses Curse Mark anyways. So your point here is?
or Itachi
And thus held back in everything else he showcased? Ntm when Genjutsu wasn’t being used, Curse Mark was his 4th Move.
or the MS against Bee/Ay
And thus he was holding back in 3TM? Your argument here is faulty because it asserts that bc he didn’t go 100% on the first move, everything else he did was therefore held back.

Like brother, a Chidori to the Back was his 3rd Move and Susanoo was his 4th. He meant to Kill Naruto with Extreme Prejudice.

So yes, Base Naruto scales to 3TM Sasuke in all areas he ALWAYS did (Strength, Durability, Reaction Speed, Combat Speed, etc.) and Travel speed wasn’t one of them.
 
So Jura is either gonna be sealed in Daikokuten or sealed away via another Jutsu. You can’t simply “kill” him, because as an incarnation of the Ten-Tails, he’ll eventually respawn like the Biju.

Doesn’t that also mean a Shinju Tree that withers and dies will ultimately be respawned eventually? 🤔
 
much harder life in the mist than the leaf yall
Honestly?
Fair enough
She's the Mizukage that had to completely do a 180 on its rep
The village went from being called the "Bloody Mist" to being a popular tourist spot and more developed than Konoha under her leadership alongside Chojuro's
 
https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/1333519766412984330/1340469951139545149/Screenshot_2025-02-15_202818.png?ex=67b2796d&is=67b127ed&hm=ebd692ae72a04be10d43bf33b138237580af1c0c72b9325956e3e2c3b832c34f& I've always really liked this panel of Boruto
 
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This is Base Sasuke, sure, I can concede Naruto is equally as fast as Base Sasuke. 🤷‍♂️
2T Sasuke
Let’s not forget, Naruto required his clone throwing him to match this Chidori/Sharingan amped Sasuke’s speed. So this is not proof, and even then, Combat/Reaction speed isn’t in question here.
His legs needed to be fast enough to match Sasuke's steps regardless of being propelled
Practically Base Sasuke. I conceded in the first part.
The travel to combat speed ratio between Naruto and Sasuke in general being even is the point
You realize we don’t see the distance covered by either, right? You also realize it’s already been established 3TM Sasuke has faster Travel Speed than Naruto, right? This doesn’t prove anything. Base Naruto has always been able to React & Combat 3TM Sasuke, just not match his Travel speed.
It's pretty disingenuous to claim Sasuke travelled a far greater distance here given that the explosion happens around the middle between where they were standing
That doesn’t therefore mean he was holding back in his Taijutsu or Ninjutsu that he did use. He also attempted to use Kirin, which surpasses Curse Mark anyways. So your point here is?

And thus held back in everything else he showcased? Ntm when Genjutsu wasn’t being used, Curse Mark was his 4th Move.

And thus he was holding back in 3TM? Your argument here is faulty because it asserts that bc he didn’t go 100% on the first move, everything else he did was therefore held back.
By definition, he was still holding back something, my point wasn't to say he was holding back in his current states there. Just that he indeed doesn't always give everything he has from the start. Also this is a pretty good explanation of why Base Naruto shouldn't be on par with Sasuke, and no Sasuke being in 3T doesn't matter cause Rinnegan Sasuke always uses 3T in P2 except when using Kagatsuchi.
Like brother, a Chidori to the Back was his 3rd Move and Susanoo was his 4th. He meant to Kill Naruto with Extreme Prejudice.

So yes, Base Naruto scales to 3TM Sasuke in all areas he ALWAYS did (Strength, Durability, Reaction Speed, Combat Speed, etc.) and Travel speed wasn’t one of them.
Momoshiki fight would disagree
 
@MinatoSparkle
I don’t intend to sound rude here, but I really don’t have the energy to go back and forth with you on this, so if that was your last response, fine.

From the end of the war, Base Naruto is shown in multiple instances matching 3TM Sasuke pre-Indra Arrow Clash and After.

Now, if you want to argue he was holding back, you can do that, but it’s nonsensical in my eyes to suggest it regardless, being as it makes 0 sense for Character A to hold back in any “significant” way against Character B, when their entire altercation was to Kill Character B w/ extreme prejudice.

So you can say 3TM Sasuke in VoTE2 is stronger than Base Naruto, but the feats themselves suggest its marginal at best, certainly not enough suggest there is no level of relativity, and that’s all I have to say on it, bc yes, that is inherent in your argument.
 
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