Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

[Samlex1234]

What small changes would you guys make to some of the character's powers and abilities in the series if you could rewrite tiny details in hindsight?

I'd have made the 2nd Mizukage have Boil Release Kekkei Genkai. He already has Water Release and Fire Release necessary for it, and it suits his infinitely exploding Steam Imp ninjutsu.

Likewise Gaara should have full Magnet Release (he does get that confirmed in a novel, but he might as well have it fully in the manga after he defeats his father).

I will make sure they don't have conversations at all during fights as it could used as an anti-feat. Also with every light speed attack, I would make sure it rounds the earth 7 times in the span of 1 second first before it approaches the target.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

What small changes would you guys make to some of the character's powers and abilities in the series if you could rewrite tiny details in hindsight?

I'd have made the 2nd Mizukage have Boil Release Kekkei Genkai. He already has Water Release and Fire Release necessary for it, and it suits his infinitely exploding Steam Imp ninjutsu.

Likewise Gaara should have full Magnet Release (he does get that confirmed in a novel, but he might as well have it fully in the manga after he defeats his father).

Sakura just using more medical ninjutsu outside of the immediate obvious stuff, like chakra blades, nervous system distortion ect.

introduce chakra natures and their limitations much earlier in the series

Have Naruto learn wind release during his training with Jiriaya but only the rasenshuriken during his training with kakashi.

just let madara raw dog the Bijuu's instead of manifesting a susano with no eyes lol

 

[SlendVeny]

Agree that with speed and hax arsenal Naruto is way better but the AP/Dura difference is so big that (unfairly cuz Naruto god-tiers should be higher) it looks like this

How i'm praying Kishimoto to make boruto slice planets with rasengan every new chap (it likely ain't happening before 2030 )

Goku when Gaara fills his lungs with steel and turns it into spikes:

 

[SlendVeny]

Likewise Gaara should have full Magnet Release (he does get that confirmed in a novel, but he might as well have it fully in the manga after he defeats his father).

Thank you Damage, I hadn't even seen this when I made my last post, I love Gaara.

I think they should have said something about his markings not just being from his lack of sleep, but also because of an innate proficiency with Magnet Release. His father gets similar marking whenever he uses it, for instance.

I would've also liked if the two of their Magnet Releases got amps in speed and power over normal jutsu because they used that state.

I'd also like it if he had more explicit physical feats, and made more sick-ass constructs, looking like Master Core from Smash Bros lol.

I have a lot of other ideas for abilities for like, basically every relevant character though. Maybe even more, haha.

 

[Zaratthustra]

What small changes would you guys make to some of the character's powers and abilities in the series if you could rewrite tiny details in hindsight?

I'd have made the 2nd Mizukage have Boil Release Kekkei Genkai. He already has Water Release and Fire Release necessary for it, and it suits his infinitely exploding Steam Imp ninjutsu.

Likewise Gaara should have full Magnet Release (he does get that confirmed in a novel, but he might as well have it fully in the manga after he defeats his father).

Give Naruto and Sakura a weapon. Maybe a staff for Naruto and an axe/hammer to Sakura so she wouldn't be 1:1 a Tsunade copy or maybe gauntles...idk.

Have Ten Ten be an actual weapon expert...and well develop more her team.

I've seen recently the videos/teasers for the Naruto mobile chinese game and its peak. Link to its youtube channel. It got several what ifs skins like with the League of Legends skinlines.

I mean Year of the Snake and we got this design for our local Snake.

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

I will make sure they don't have conversations at all during fights as it could used as an anti-feat. Also with every light speed attack, I would make sure it rounds the earth 7 times in the span of 1 second first before it approaches the target.

If they at least don’t yell their attacks then Naruto would become boring

 

[Godernet]

What small changes would you guys make to some of the character's powers and abilities in the series if you could rewrite tiny details in hindsight?

I'd have made the 2nd Mizukage have Boil Release Kekkei Genkai. He already has Water Release and Fire Release necessary for it, and it suits his infinitely exploding Steam Imp ninjutsu.

Likewise Gaara should have full Magnet Release (he does get that confirmed in a novel, but he might as well have it fully in the manga after he defeats his father).

Sakura using more GJ and Offense Medical Ninjutsu(like Tsunade using electricity to invert Kabuto's brain from his limbs)

More Diverse Wind Style for Nard besides Rasengan variants (especially Hokage Nard, make him and Sauce use all the nature elements like they're the avatar)

Spirit Weapons like the Totsuka and Yata Mirror being used for more Susano'o like Madara and Sasuke's.

Confirmation that Otsutsuki are just immune to GJ rather than just alluding to it so that Adult Sauce looks less fraudulent

Baryon Mode sapping life force based on percentage of life force rather than flat time because sacrificing Kurama's life for punches that only take off a few days of life at best is mad unimpressive in any other scenario, and it would at least add more weight to Kurama's death (granted he came back)

Kotoamatsukami having a drawback like it can only be used on one or two people at a time rather than once every 10 years which is a strange drawback timeframe given other busted abilities in the series.

I could probably think of more but these are the immediate ones i thought up

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Spirit Weapons like the Totsuka and Yata Mirror being used for more Susano'o like Madara and Sasuke's.

This seems a bit too much

Baryon Mode sapping life force based on percentage of life force rather than flat time because sacrificing Kurama's life for punches that only take off a few days of life at best is mad unimpressive in any other scenario, and it would at least add more weight to Kurama's death (granted he came back)

Might already but confirmation would be nice

 

[Godernet]

This seems a bit too much

I wouldn't mind it if it was just like Madara had one that he whips out once or twice and Sasuke finds one during the Blank Period, and they don't have to be as busted at Yata and Totsuka but Itachi being the only person with a chakra avatar that had named spirit weapons feels like a waste imo.

Might already but confirmation would be nice

fair, if that was the case already confirmation would be nice.

 

[Godernet]

ooh also make explaining your technique provide it a chakra amp like in JJK, more shounen need to do that if they're gonna exposit all their techniques like that.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

I wouldn't mind it if it was just like Madara had one that he whips out once or twice and Sasuke finds one during the Blank Period, and they don't have to be as busted at Yata and Totsuka but Itachi being the only person with a chakra avatar that had named spirit weapons feels like a waste imo.

Eh sure I just think them having AP/durability negation makes fights less interesting when it's not a rare thing

fair, if that was the case already confirmation would be nice.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

This seems a bit too much

giga brain time, write some counters to the weapons

so something may get some spiritual negging proper

wink wink nudge nudge

 

[MinatoSparkle]

What's the last part about

 

[JohnHendrix212]

What small changes would you guys make to some of the character's powers and abilities in the series if you could rewrite tiny details in hindsight?

I'd have made the 2nd Mizukage have Boil Release Kekkei Genkai. He already has Water Release and Fire Release necessary for it, and it suits his infinitely exploding Steam Imp ninjutsu.

Likewise Gaara should have full Magnet Release (he does get that confirmed in a novel, but he might as well have it fully in the manga after he defeats his father).

I'd write Sasuke as fairly competent with his Rinnegan. As in utilising the full extent of the Rinnegans abilities, instead of just using it as a glorified uber.

 

[Testarossa002]

I don't know where the whole rinnegan uber meme came from seeing as he only used it as an "uber" like three times in the whole manga

 

[JohnHendrix212]

I don't know where the whole rinnegan uber meme came from seeing as he only used it as an "uber" like three times in the whole manga

Inter-dimensional uber. He probably used it more times than shown on-panel.

 

[KingogKings777]

I will make sure they don't have conversations at all during fights as it could used as an anti-feat. Also with every light speed attack, I would make sure it rounds the earth 7 times in the span of 1 second first before it approaches the target.

This shit gonna live rent free in peoples head aint it lol.

 

[Samlex1234]

Wow, Damage immediately closed the Page before I could reply, no problem. I will still send that information here.

 

[Damage3245]

Wow, Damage immediately closed the Page before I could reply, no problem. I will still send that information here.

Here is fine. That thread just wasn't the appropriate place for the discussion.

 

[Samlex1234]

Here is fine. That thread just wasn't the appropriate place for the discussion.

You closed it before I could reply without warning when you knew I was going to reply in the first place, now I have to start drafting everything from the beginning. That thread was calling into question the authenticity of the databook which affects one of the arguments that you used in your justification for the FTL removal of course it is the appropriate thread.

 

[Damage3245]

You closed it before I could reply without warning when you knew I was going to reply in the first place, now I have to start drafting everything from the beginning. That thread was calling into question the authenticity of the databook which affects one of the arguments that you used in your justification for the FTL removal of course it is the appropriate thread.

Sorry, I didn't realize it would disrupt your draft. I had no way of knowing you were writing a reply at that moment.

 

[The_Alxhemist]

What small changes would you guys make to some of the character's powers and abilities in the series if you could rewrite tiny details in hindsight?

I'd have made the 2nd Mizukage have Boil Release Kekkei Genkai. He already has Water Release and Fire Release necessary for it, and it suits his infinitely exploding Steam Imp ninjutsu.

Likewise Gaara should have full Magnet Release (he does get that confirmed in a novel, but he might as well have it fully in the manga after he defeats his father).

For Naruto, I'd change it so he can always share his thoughts throughout his clones, like 1 single mind operating a thousand clones at the same time. Also I'd change him fully utilizing the chakra natures he got from the Tailed beasts or even possibly combine them.

For Sasuke, all I'd change is that he spams Genjutsu every battle, for such a seemingly almost op ability inverse to disorient his opponents he barely uses it.

For Sakura, all she needs is a big ass axe.

I'd also make Shikamaru and the Nara clan the worst opponents to face during sun down. There's probably a lot more but this is all I can think of right now.

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

What would be the best calc for a statement of x character being able to wipe out humanity

 

[Samlex1234]

@Shadowbokunohero

Masashi Kishimoto (The Writer), Caramel Mama (production company), Shueisha (Publishing company)

“Caramel Mama is a Japanese production company that specializes in editing and producing supplementary materials for major anime and manga franchises”. It is important to note that they are a production company, meaning their primary role is assisting mangakas with the production and editing of materials like databooks. Nowhere in the scans you gave me does it ever state that Caramel Mama or its staff are writers because they are not.

Their role is to provide editing assistance, which involves mainly non-creative tasks such as: Correcting grammar, typos, and inconsistencies,

Organizing content for clarity and readability.

Providing feedback on pacing, structure, or flow.

At no point do they generate the ideas, content, or concepts themselves. All the information, ideas, and creative content in the databooks were written and created by Masashi Kishimoto, the original author. Caramel Mama’s role was simply to produce and refine the content that Kishimoto had already developed. Their contributions are essential but strictly supportive, ensuring the final product meets professional standards without altering or adding to the original ideas.

Masashi Kishimoto is credited as the only Author of the databook. Meaning he was the sole creator and originator of the contents in the Databooks. By the way, every Popular mangaka has a production team even for Manga, a team that helps to cross-check their original content, because guess what, it is impossible for the author to do all of these things by himself.

Let's take a look at the scans you provided



Translation:

Editing Assistance: Caramel Mama, Hideyuki Suzuki, Toshitaka Ishida, Takayuki Watanabe, Masaki Imamari, Ryo Ito, Akira Uchida, Masayuki Sai, Kiyohiko Takezaki

Art Direction: Kimio Taguma (Freiheit)

Design: Yumiko Ohira (Ohira Design), Takeshi Ko (T.K.), Seki Saito (Earth Press), Shigeyuki Shinshima, Tsukasa Haritani (Arancia), Masayo Yago, Komamiko Fukushi (Freiheit), Chisato Nakamiya (Freiheit)

Jump Comics
NARUTO

[Hiden: TÅ no Sho]

Character Official Data Book

First Edition Published: April 9, 2005


Author: Masashi Kishimoto

© Masashi Kishimoto 2005

Publisher: Kazuhiko Torishima

Publishing Office: Shueisha Inc.

2-5-10 Hitotsubashi, Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo

Postal Code: 101-8050

Phone Numbers:

Tokyo Office

03 (3230) 6233 (Editing)


03 (3230) 6191 (Sales)


03 (3230) 6076 (Production)

Printed in Japan



Translation:

Jump Comics

NARUTO

[Hiden: Retsu no Sho]

Official Movie Guide Book

Publication Date: December 4, 2014

Author: Masashi Kishimoto

© Masashi Kishimoto 2014

Printed in Japan

Production: Cosmo Graphic Co., Ltd.

Printing Office: Kyodo Printing Co., Ltd.

Notice Regarding Printing Errors:

We take the utmost care in producing this book, but in the event of printing defects or missing pages (e.g., incorrect page order or missing content), we will replace the book. Please specify which movie theater you attended and send the book to Toho’s Distribution Department. Toho will cover the shipping costs for the replacement.

Unauthorized reproduction or copying of this book, in whole or in part, is prohibited except as allowed by law. Additionally, digitalization of this book by any individual or entity other than the reader is strictly forbidden under all circumstances.

Special Notes:

This book is a special gift for attendees of The Last: Naruto the Movie. It is not available for sale.
We cannot respond to inquiries regarding purchase methods, how to obtain this book or its content. Please understand this in advance. Furthermore, reselling this booklet is strictly prohibited under all circumstances.

Contact Information:
Toho Co., Ltd.
Phone (Tokyo): 03-3591-1290 (Publicity Department)
Hours: 11:00 AM 5:00 PM (excluding weekends and holidays)
Address: 1-2-2 Yurakucho, Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo, 100-8415

Editing Assistance: Caramel Mama, Isao Hagiwara, Yasuhiro Sasamori, Takayuki Watanabe, Shintaro Kataoka, Narumi Omuro, Yuichi Oba, Kazunori Yano, Teppei Odagiri

Art Direction: Keita Yano

Design:
Banana Grove Studio, Mayumi Matsukura, Keiko Kushida, Madoka Nomura, BGS Production Team

© Masashi Kishimoto, Scott / Shueisha, TV Tokyo, Pierrot
© Naruto The Movie Production Committee 2014

 

[Samlex1234]

I repeat Kishimoto is the Author of the Naruto Databooks.

 

[Testarossa002]

What would be the best calc for a statement of x character being able to wipe out humanity

There's none tbh
You can use the surface wiping calc (H6-A) but others can point out that a 8-A with lightning speed can wipe out humanity
Or something similar to the Dinosaur impact stuff (6-B)

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

8As can do that?

Oh well not too bad since there's not many naruto characters that use that scaling line aside Juubito with SON

 

[Samlex1234]

This shit gonna live rent free in peoples head aint it lol.

Wait until it affects you too. People rarely speak up until the bomb lands in their backyard. Stories of the bomb being far away are easy to ignore until your verse becomes the target. Hopefully, when The Damager comes your way and these flawed arguments are used against your favourite verse, you'll finally understand the issue.

 

[KingogKings777]

Wait until it affects you too. People rarely speak up until the bomb lands in their backyard. Stories of the bomb being far away are easy to ignore until your verse becomes the target. Hopefully, when The Damager comes your way and these flawed arguments are used against your favourite verse, you'll finally understand the issue.

A little advice, touch grass if you think this is such a big deal. Also, doesn't stop you from using whatever metas off site.

 

[DragoZeroNova]

Can we officially change Damage3245 to The Damager via CRT it's funny

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

the worst person you know made a good point

 

[MinatoSparkle]

@Shadowbokunohero

Masashi Kishimoto (The Writer), Caramel Mama (production company), Shueisha (Publishing company)

“Caramel Mama is a Japanese production company that specializes in editing and producing supplementary materials for major anime and manga franchises”. It is important to note that they are a production company, meaning their primary role is assisting mangakas with the production and editing of materials like databooks. Nowhere in the scans you gave me does it ever state that Caramel Mama or its staff are writers because they are not.

Their role is to provide editing assistance, which involves mainly non-creative tasks such as: Correcting grammar, typos, and inconsistencies,

Organizing content for clarity and readability.

Providing feedback on pacing, structure, or flow.

At no point do they generate the ideas, content, or concepts themselves. All the information, ideas, and creative content in the databooks were written and created by Masashi Kishimoto, the original author. Caramel Mama’s role was simply to produce and refine the content that Kishimoto had already developed. Their contributions are essential but strictly supportive, ensuring the final product meets professional standards without altering or adding to the original ideas.

Masashi Kishimoto is credited as the only Author of the databook. Meaning he was the sole creator and originator of the contents in the Databooks. By the way, every Popular mangaka has a production team even for Manga, a team that helps to cross-check their original content, because guess what, it is impossible for the author to do all of these things by himself.

Let's take a look at the scans you provided



Translation:

Editing Assistance: Caramel Mama, Hideyuki Suzuki, Toshitaka Ishida, Takayuki Watanabe, Masaki Imamari, Ryo Ito, Akira Uchida, Masayuki Sai, Kiyohiko Takezaki

Art Direction: Kimio Taguma (Freiheit)

Design: Yumiko Ohira (Ohira Design), Takeshi Ko (T.K.), Seki Saito (Earth Press), Shigeyuki Shinshima, Tsukasa Haritani (Arancia), Masayo Yago, Komamiko Fukushi (Freiheit), Chisato Nakamiya (Freiheit)

Jump Comics
NARUTO

[Hiden: TÅ no Sho]

Character Official Data Book

First Edition Published: April 9, 2005


Author: Masashi Kishimoto

© Masashi Kishimoto 2005

Publisher: Kazuhiko Torishima

Publishing Office: Shueisha Inc.

2-5-10 Hitotsubashi, Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo

Postal Code: 101-8050

Phone Numbers:

Tokyo Office

03 (3230) 6233 (Editing)


03 (3230) 6191 (Sales)


03 (3230) 6076 (Production)

Printed in Japan



Translation:

Jump Comics

NARUTO

[Hiden: Retsu no Sho]

Official Movie Guide Book

Publication Date: December 4, 2014

Author: Masashi Kishimoto

© Masashi Kishimoto 2014

Printed in Japan

Production: Cosmo Graphic Co., Ltd.

Printing Office: Kyodo Printing Co., Ltd.

Notice Regarding Printing Errors:

We take the utmost care in producing this book, but in the event of printing defects or missing pages (e.g., incorrect page order or missing content), we will replace the book. Please specify which movie theater you attended and send the book to Toho’s Distribution Department. Toho will cover the shipping costs for the replacement.

Unauthorized reproduction or copying of this book, in whole or in part, is prohibited except as allowed by law. Additionally, digitalization of this book by any individual or entity other than the reader is strictly forbidden under all circumstances.

Special Notes:

This book is a special gift for attendees of The Last: Naruto the Movie. It is not available for sale.
We cannot respond to inquiries regarding purchase methods, how to obtain this book or its content. Please understand this in advance. Furthermore, reselling this booklet is strictly prohibited under all circumstances.

Contact Information:
Toho Co., Ltd.
Phone (Tokyo): 03-3591-1290 (Publicity Department)
Hours: 11:00 AM 5:00 PM (excluding weekends and holidays)
Address: 1-2-2 Yurakucho, Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo, 100-8415

Editing Assistance: Caramel Mama, Isao Hagiwara, Yasuhiro Sasamori, Takayuki Watanabe, Shintaro Kataoka, Narumi Omuro, Yuichi Oba, Kazunori Yano, Teppei Odagiri

Art Direction: Keita Yano

Design:
Banana Grove Studio, Mayumi Matsukura, Keiko Kushida, Madoka Nomura, BGS Production Team

© Masashi Kishimoto, Scott / Shueisha, TV Tokyo, Pierrot
© Naruto The Movie Production Committee 2014

If the translations are correct it seems legit

 

[SlendVeny]

What small changes would you guys make to some of the character's powers and abilities in the series if you could rewrite tiny details in hindsight?

I'd have made the 2nd Mizukage have Boil Release Kekkei Genkai. He already has Water Release and Fire Release necessary for it, and it suits his infinitely exploding Steam Imp ninjutsu.

Likewise Gaara should have full Magnet Release (he does get that confirmed in a novel, but he might as well have it fully in the manga after he defeats his father).

By the way, hopping back to this, I'd make the Chakra style shadow clones still transfer some chakra/knowledge back to the user.

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

Can someone help me figure out where the hell the crt for this is located in

I've been digging so deep trying to find it idk how I ended up in the deep pits of a bleach crt where Matthew Schroeder and Arc were facing off

 

[Testarossa002]

By the way, hopping back to this, I'd make the Chakra style shadow clones still transfer some chakra/knowledge back to the user.

Unless there's some contradiction somewhere, it should already be capable of doing this. I'm not certain, but I seem to remember itachi using his crow clone to do something similar in the build-up to his fight against Sasuke

Can someone help me figure out where the hell the crt for this is located in

I've been digging so deep trying to find it idk how I ended up in the deep pits of a bleach crt where Matthew Schroeder and Arc were facing off

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Yo everyone!
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[Nierre]

Can someone help me figure out where the hell the crt for this is located in

I've been digging so deep trying to find it idk how I ended up in the deep pits of a bleach crt where Matthew Schroeder and Arc were facing off

Here

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

arigato my brethen

 

[Arkenis]

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[Ghostimuscrime]

okayyy there's issues with that crt, reio35 brought up timeframe issue and people just clowned him instead of tackling that point, he could just be destroying with multiple blows of the weapon just like the juubi used multiple TBBs to ruin the landscape

 

[NeoKingOfLight]

Honestly, I feel the Sword of Nunoboku is pure nonsense at this point.

1. Hagoromo didn’t “create” the world with it. Earth/Humanity Existed long before he was even thought of.
2. Chakra existed within Humanity before Kaguya/Isshiki came (It was the reason they came).
3. He was comfortably stronger than Naruto & Sasuke sans his wavering will. Destroying the world just to kill them was antithetical to his entire life’s plan, nor has he ever been presented as unhinged like that.

Quite frankly, I believe it to be a stupid assertion. How can it destroy something it was never used to create in the first place? Kishimoto contradicted the sword there. And the idea that Obito destroy the world in that moment is pure boof. Nothing supports or justifies the Sword of Nunoboku being able to do that.

Juubito already scales over comfortably over Madara / Hashirama (Idk if my CRT about the scaling was ever applied but we had the debate forsure and it passed).