Peerless is in reference to the people in the normal plane (the non ascended). When they talk about wielding Omnipotence with elevated efficiency they’re talking about how Eida needs an activation key (Kawaki/an Otsutsuki) while Shibai would able to just use it.
I'm sure the arguments that got rejected and debunked in this thread will end up getting accepted 5 days later in a different thread…Cope and seethe Either way I plan on creating a different CRT immediately after this to tackle low 2C shibai.adieu
i think momo talked in 2 parts. First he was talking about her not even being an otsusuki and thus needing kawaki to even activate it. He still went ahead to explain to fully wield it you need to be an otsusuki God. If it was just about needing kawaki as a key then it would mean just being an otsusuki would be enough, but it isn't.
Oh, you thought I was seriously arguing for low 2-C? Please. You haven’t even seen me go all out yet. I’ll be creating a CRT soon the only question is, will you show up?I'm sure the arguments that got rejected and debunked in this thread will end up getting accepted 5 days later in a different thread…
He is?, any evidence for this, most characters in naruto dont really have a good grasp on the afterlife (for obvious reasons)
Honestly, I only included that as a bonus argument. However, it’s worth noting that Naruto was also in that convoy and was caught off guard by the concept of higher dimensions. I could delve into why Shikamaru should logically know about the Pure Land, but in the grand scheme of things, it doesn’t really matter.
Its Naruto.
peerless is far more explicit than a higher scaling chain
peerless means unrivalled
Is there any statement of Isshiki having unrivaled power? Just like straight up this
Which would have been accepted if the site wasn't using machine translations so it's not about the statement but it's origins.
If you’re going to actively derail the thread I’m sure there are several thread mods who will just parrot what I said and tell you to stop derailing.
Well, it's not a war crime or anything, but it is derailing because this thread has nothing to do with Isshiki.
k, I'll move to the general thread
no while they both very similar, theres nuance to it.
the base shibai in question is a fruit away from being peerless is significantly more impressive than one who isnt like ishikki
ishikki could have eaten quintillions of fruit, and it would still be vastly inferior than being a fruit away from ascension, so unless we have a direct number for how many fruits are required for ascension or a statement that says the next fruit that ishikki would have eaten would have ascended him then theres no reason to compare ishikki to shibai.
naruto's case is contextual and refers to the chakra naruto produced himself (as in the raws) Ishikki's only claim to fame is being above everyone in the present, which barely touches the cosmology and a one off statement from an anime promotional scan for the following weeks episode where he is stated to be the "the strongest/most fearsome enemy" this isnt event hat good of a statement either but thats neither here or nor there, but even so i dont have an issue with Ishikki or baryon mode scaling above the ETSO , what was rejected before was the methodology in how one goes about it because it creates issues.
shibai isnt ishikki nor is he the MAS
1)prove being peerless means your base stats>a full scale overtime charged jutsu instead of their currently available
Boo
Shibai isn’t scaling for being merely massively above Kaguya. He scales because he absorbed so much chakra energy and power that he couldn’t maintain physical form. Whereas the ETSO could maintain physical form. Indicating that Shibai soared to greater heights than that jutsu explicitly.
your existence by default cannot be peerless if its contextual. and we are not told specifically that shibai is only peerless in a specific category.
yes it does because one character is quite literally a fruit away while the other and has no feats or statements to imply he is, and we know the progression of power is linear with the consumption of fruits (the more you eat, the stronger you get; though the power that each fruit gives does vary)and if the ascension is the apex of power then being one fruit away would by default be above one that isnt.
both goku and a random house cat would be massively above a microbe, this doesnt mean they comparable.
its not being shoved under the rug, its not being addressed because its not relevant to the CRT nor am i here to address potentially dozens of peoples arguments who may no longer even hold those same arguments and risk straw manning them, the point to take away from this isnt that A cant be > B, its that people may disagree with the method of getting from A to B and that generalizing every counter argument as the same is incorrect.
why would UES apply to Shibai
that line of logic supports shibai>persec value
It actually does support the full rating, since the ETSO can maintain physical form at full capacity.
you dont intentionally chose to remove your physical body if your chakra is beyond capacity
Why do you think he had to discard his physical form tho
Because he did not “need it”
Due to the nature of his ascension which is directly tied to the chakra energy and power he accrued
nuh uh
It’s 100 percent correlated to his countless devouring of chakra fruits and evolution. It’s literally the plot and why Isshiki wants Code to keep devouring chakra fruits.
My man…… I can always trust you to l write your own story.
