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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

Yamamoto, unohana definitely are underrated compared to zarakk glazing.
I see people try every way to downplay them.
 
Yamamoto, unohana definitely are underrated compared to zarakk glazing.
I see people try every way to downplay them.
In my own experience this is completely bunk. People genuinely believe Yamamoto can beat Hikone, even claiming he'd no diff them. They always find some ass backwards headcanon claiming Hikone wasn't transcendant-tier, or that Aizen is weaker than Yamamoto. People claim MUKEN AIZEN is weaker than Yamamoto, same with True Shikai Ichigo. The Yama wankers were even claiming Senjumaru was a victim to him. Unohana is a strange case, people either overrate her or vastly underrate her.
 
In my own experience this is completely bunk. People genuinely believe Yamamoto can beat Hikone, even claiming he'd no diff them. They always find some ass backwards headcanon claiming Hikone wasn't transcendant-tier, or that Aizen is weaker than Yamamoto. People claim MUKEN AIZEN is weaker than Yamamoto, same with True Shikai Ichigo. The Yama wankers were even claiming Senjumaru was a victim to him. Unohana is a strange case, people either overrate her or vastly underrate her.
They are just dumb.

I was meaning both them are considered far below where they should be.
Both definitely gets one shotted by current zaraki
 
In my own experience this is completely bunk. People genuinely believe Yamamoto can beat Hikone, even claiming he'd no diff them. They always find some ass backwards headcanon claiming Hikone wasn't transcendant-tier, or that Aizen is weaker than Yamamoto. People claim MUKEN AIZEN is weaker than Yamamoto, same with True Shikai Ichigo. The Yama wankers were even claiming Senjumaru was a victim to him. Unohana is a strange case, people either overrate her or vastly underrate her.
Like after kubo answered SS Aizen vs unohana people are still trying to say unohana would win. Like there aren’t several other statements that are made that imply SS Aizen>unohana out there as well.
 
Like after kubo answered SS Aizen vs unohana people are still trying to say unohana would win. Like there aren’t several other statements that are made that imply SS Aizen>unohana out there as well.
Kubo made it clear aizen would win. He just will have to try hard despite having her under shikai. But he will win 100%
 
They think Shikai Yamamoto is beating Jugram
I think this

Sooo, would there be scaling problems if senior captains like Yamamoto, Unohana, Kyoraku and Ukitake had unchanging AP across the whole series?
In reality, no. I think this is fine, and in fact, it's what we've accepted

Biggest issue i could see is Kyoraku saying SS Chad's suicide/power of friendship attack could have seriously harmed him.

But even that could be explained in many ways :
-Chad's attack was amped beyond reasons via emotions (same as Ginjo in CFYOW and both are fullbringers)
-A casual Kyoraku could have been caught offguard by such a difference in power
-Kyoraku was being overly generous with his statement.
A supressed Shunsui getting damaged isn't as big of a feat either.

That's definitely the answer, its just Kyoraku being Kyoraku, during the SS arc him and Ukitake in team still pushed Yamamot to unleash his Shikai
No??????? Who the **** said they forced him to

In my own experience this is completely bunk. People genuinely believe Yamamoto can beat Hikone, even claiming he'd no diff them. They always find some ass backwards headcanon claiming Hikone wasn't transcendant-tier, or that Aizen is weaker than Yamamoto. People claim MUKEN AIZEN is weaker than Yamamoto, same with True Shikai Ichigo. The Yama wankers were even claiming Senjumaru was a victim to him. Unohana is a strange case, people either overrate her or vastly underrate her.
Clyde
 
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There's also no threads about that lol. One guy just trolling me with that scale, so i came here to find out about it xD
 
Speaking of, does anyone have the raws of Kubo’s answer (as well as the number of this Q&A, for references purposes)?
Raw - Q701.

清浄塔居林にて日番谷と藍染が相対した時に日番谷を倒したのに対して、卯ノ花と勇音に攻撃せず双極に移動したのは、藍染が卯ノ花と戦って勝てる見込みが無かったからでしょうか?

A701.

勝てないとは考えていないと思いますが、消耗するのは確実だからです。

English - Q701.

2024.11.18

When Hitsugaya and Aizen faced each other in the Seijōtōkyorin (Immaculate Tower Grove - Central 46), Aizen defeated Hitsugaya, but instead of attacking Unohana and Isane, he moved to the Sōkyoku Hill. Was this because Aizen had no chance of winning against Unohana?

A701

2024.11.18

I don't think he felt that he couldn’t win, but he was sure that he will be exhausted.
 
Raw - Q701.

清浄塔居林にて日番谷と藍染が相対した時に日番谷を倒したのに対して、卯ノ花と勇音に攻撃せず双極に移動したのは、藍染が卯ノ花と戦って勝てる見込みが無かったからでしょうか?

A701.

勝てないとは考えていないと思いますが、消耗するのは確実だからです。

English - Q701.

2024.11.18

When Hitsugaya and Aizen faced each other in the Seijōtōkyorin (Immaculate Tower Grove - Central 46), Aizen defeated Hitsugaya, but instead of attacking Unohana and Isane, he moved to the Sōkyoku Hill. Was this because Aizen had no chance of winning against Unohana?

A701

2024.11.18

I don't think he felt that he couldn’t win, but he was sure that he will be exhausted.
Awesome, thank you.
 
Btw is like Lille considered transcendent in his 3rd Stage Vollständig? Like I’ve always thought that Lille reached the levels of transcendents like 2nd Form Aizen with his 3rd Stage Vollständig as the Hakkyoken did acknowledge him as God level which I’ve always thought was referring to the level of transcendents.

Kinda interested in what you guys think about where his final form ranks.
 
Btw is like Lille considered transcendent in his 3rd Stage Vollständig? Like I’ve always thought that Lille reached the levels of transcendents like 2nd Form Aizen with his 3rd Stage Vollständig as the Hakkyoken did acknowledge him as God level which I’ve always thought was referring to the level of transcendents.

Kinda interested in what you guys think about where his final form ranks.
Naw there’s no strong evidence to say he’s transcendent. But his alien like design has always reminded people of Aizen’s transcendence.
 
Does this episode showing the photons that make up light are made of reishi do anything for quincy matter manipulation?
Good matter manip argument for Lille. But reishi has always just meant spiritual particle, meaning that spiritual photons (photons being particles) were always a part of reishi. Rather Lille manipulating it is a good matter manip feat.
 
EPISODE #37
SHADOWS GONE

Katen Kyōkotsu— (1)

The Zanpakutō of the Captain-Commander of Gotei 13, Kyōraku Shunsui. Its a rare twin sword among the many other zanpakutō’s. It has the ability to make children's games a reality, and the rules of the game are defined by “Ohana”, the main personality of Katen Kyōkotsu and anyone who enters her reiatsu area, including Kyōraku, is forced to follow these rules. The content is easily influenced by Ohana's mood, but the essence of the game is "If you win, you live, if you lose, you die". Its Bankai is "Katen Kyōkotsu: Karamatsu Shinjū" in which the opponent are subjected to various phenomena that are likened to the stories told by Kyōraku and meet their death as the story concludes.

Shinken Hakkyōken— (2)

A zanpakutō that has been passed down through generations by the head of the Ise clan, a clan of priests. It is said to have the power to confront gods, take their power into itself and disperse it in all directions. It is a sword mainly used in rituals and since it has no blade, it cannot cut people.
 
 
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