Metal Gear trivial updates (what do you guys think)

[NON-STOPPING_GAMER2009]

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Time to update Metal Gear again. Profiles are pretty rusty.
1. Radiation Manipulation and Extreme Heat resistance applies to pretty much everyone in Rising (because Raiden says Outer Haven won't affect him in MGS4 (used in MGS4 key), and all cyborgs use the same systems). It should also apply to Armstrong, since he scales to them anyway and Snake could walk through Outer Haven's microwave via his nanomachines.
2. Armstrong's lifting strength should be at least Class G because when he says "I could break the president in two, with my bare hands", he is able to effortlessly overpower a much stronger Raiden to the point where he's helpless, they're not equal in lifting strength at all. I don't think that is Class T but just saying. Also, Raiden was only able to match a much weakened Armstrong.
3. Armstrong should have resistance to Disease Manipulation because nanomachines like Vamp's given immunity to contaminants. His nanomachines were stated to be comparable to Vamp's (LOOK AT REDDIT POST "SENATOR ARMSTRONG")
4. Sundowner can also lift the Pincer blades easier than Raiden, which should upscale him, noted in his Lifting Strength category.
5. Sam can briefly overpower Raiden by slamming him down so we should note that.
6. All HF users should have Matter Manipulation because these blades affect matter at a subatomic scale. All HF resistances should also scale to that.
7. Sundowner and Sam should be 7-B+ because they engaged a Ripper Raiden each.
8. Note down that Armstrong can ionize the air from the friction while dashing (same video as before, 5:47)
9. Armstrong and Monsoon should be possibly Genius because Operation Tecumseh was stated to have been comparable to 9/11 in scale (2:53) Monsoon is on the same intellectual level anyway
10. Boost Mistral and Sundowner IQs! Mistral could manipulate Blade Wolf and Sundowner creates simulations that feel "as real as anything else" for kids to get used to warfare, also he has at least 29 years of experience!
11. Ages...do I need to clarify? The wiki has it all.
12. Sundowner can react to Ripper Mode Raiden, and Mistral can parry a Ripper Mode raiden if you replay the game, so they also scale their combat and reactions higher.
13. Armstrong has 200% HP and should be double the feat Raiden scales, which is 131.75 megatons (7-A)
14. Raiden should also have HF resistance in his MGRR key, since all cyborgs use the same systems.

Source for cyborgs using the same systems and Armstrong's scaling to Vamp (CYBORGS and SENATOR ARMSTRONG):


If you want sources I'm gladly citing. Not all may be accepted, but I'd be happy if they are.
Sorry for not doing this prior to editing, if you want to implement them or some of them you can gladly redo my previous edits.
I will also provide some profile updates for their AP/speed/durability but those will be later on on another thread or blog, because I wanna do some revisions to the profiles.
Thanks for reading

 

[NON-STOPPING_GAMER2009]

You don't have to agree with everything

 

[StarShooter80]

Armstrong's lifting strength should be at least Class G because when he says "I could break the president in two, with my bare hands", he is able to effortlessly overpower a much stronger Raiden to the point where he's helpless, they're not equal in lifting strength at all. I don't think that is Class T but just saying. Also, Raiden was only able to match a much weakened Armstrong.

Custom Cyborg Body Raiden himself should already be at least Class G just due to the fact he can contend with Sam and overpower him, when his previous body was getting overpowered by a casual Sam.

3. Armstrong should have resistance to Disease Manipulation because nanomachines like Vamp's given immunity to contaminants. His nanomachines were stated to be comparable to Vamp's.

Provide the scans for this.

5. Sundowner can also lift the Pincer blades easier than Raiden, which should upscale him, noted in his Lifting Strength category.
6. Sam can briefly overpower Raiden by slamming him down so we should note that.

The Sam one is already indexed. Again I agree with them upscaling from Class G into being “at least” that value.

7. All HF users should have Matter Manipulation because these blades affect matter at a subatomic scale. All HF resistances should also scale to that.

Quantum Manipulation is a form of Matter Manipulation, and that's already covered in the profiles.

8. Everyone should be 7-B+ or at least 7-B+ and not at most 7-B+ because they obviously massively upscale Monsoon's APC feats, for example, Armstrong, who is obviously stronger than Raiden.

The only character who shouldn’t be at most 7-B is Sam, other than that Mistral, Bladewolf, etc, have no reason not to be “at most 7-B+” they don’t massively upscale from Monsoon at all, their scaling is just that they fought Raiden and died, they only downscale.

9. Note down that Armstrong can ionize the air from the friction while dashing.

Provide the scans for this.

10. Armstrong and Monsoon should be possibly Genius because Operation Tecumseh was stated to have been comparable to 9/11 in scale. Monsoon is on the same intellectual level anyway
11. Boost Mistral and Sundowner IQs! Mistral could manipulate Blade Wolf and Sundowner creates simulations that feel "as real as anything else" for kids to get used to warfare, also he has at least 29 years of experience!
12. Ages...do I need to clarify? The wiki has it all.

Sure for all 3 of these, but those instances don’t seem like enough to boost Mistral and Sundowners intelligence that much, but it is note worthy.

13. Sundowner can react to Ripper Mode Raiden, and Mistral can parry a Ripper Mode raiden if you replay the game, so they also scale their combat and reactions higher.

Base Raiden can also land strikes on them without the use of Blade + Ripper Mode. You’d need to have at least some sort of implication that Raiden used ripper mode against Sundowner as nothing implies that pre or post fight. The Mistral justification is also just bad, that’s completely reliant on gameplay mechanics and post game content, not actual lore.

14. Armstrong has 200% HP and should be double the feat Raiden scales, which is 131.75 megatons (7-A)

You shouldn’t use game statistics to scale characters by a certain multiplier, that’s by the books game mechanics.

15. Raiden should also have HF resistance in his MGRR key

Based on what.

I’ve said several times already but seriously, CRTs that have no scans whatsoever in the OP are doomed to be closed:

• Content Revision Threads need to be supported by scans, quotes, video clips, accepted calculations, or any other direct proof that claimed events actually happened in the source material. In the absence of this evidence, CRTs may be closed without notice.
  • Evidence provided in CRTs must be verifiable. In the instance that evidence comes from material which is inaccessible, evidence can be considered verifiable if it can be attested to by an official source (for example: the creator of the material) or otherwise archived by a reputable source. Information that comes from inaccessible material that cannot be attested to by an official source or is not archived by a reputable source is not permitted for indexing.

Either re-edit the OP and implement the scans, or create a new thread entirely.

 

[NON-STOPPING_GAMER2009]

Custom Cyborg Body Raiden himself should already be at least Class G just due to the fact he can contend with Sam and overpower him, when his previous body was getting overpowered by a casual Sam.

Fine by me. Everyone should be at least Class G then, or at least Sundowner, Armstrong, Raiden, Sam.

Provide the scans for this.

https://metalgear.fandom.com/wiki/Nanomachine#Medical_and_commercial_nanomachines (reference)

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/m...280.png.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130403084207 (something already accepted by VSBW in his page)

The Sam one is already indexed. Again I agree with them upscaling from Class G into being “at least” that value.

Fine by me. Index Sundowner, he's supposed to be a brawny mf.

Quantum Manipulation is a form of Matter Manipulation, and that's already covered in the profiles.

Just specifiying to not give them any idea about High 1-B hax or something, and simple Matter Manipulation.

Sure for all 3 of these, but those instances don’t seem like enough to boost Mistral and Sundowners intelligence that much, but it is note worthy.

Sundowner and Mistral aren't Genius, Armstrong and Monsoon are because Armstrong orchestrated Operation Tecumseh, which is something that compares to 9/11 in scale (once by Sundowner and twice by Boris), Monsoon is clearly on the same intellectual level. Mistral is Gifted overall because she manipulated Blade Wolf and Sundowner is Gifted in Combat or Genius in Combat (depends on how you take it)

The only character who shouldn’t be at most 7-B is Sam, other than that Mistral, Bladewolf, etc, have no reason not to be “at most 7-B+” they don’t massively upscale from Monsoon at all, their scaling is just that they fought Raiden and died, they only downscale.

That being in regard to Monsoon's feat, not to Raiden. Mistral can obviously upscale the 7-B+ feat. Sundowner too, since Raiden didn't won by virtue of overpowering. Sundowner's physicals are actually superior to Raiden's, so he should be 7-B+ without the "at most". Codec even states this guy hits hard (Attack Potency). At least Sundowner, if you may.

You shouldn’t use game statistics to scale characters by a certain multiplier, that’s by the books game mechanics.

Ok. That is debatable. Although I do believe Senator Armstrong upscales any version of Raiden.

Based on what.

Scaling to the other cyborgs, Sam's armor and Armstrong's nanomachines. All cyborgs use the same systems. That also goes for Radiation Manipulation resistance and Extreme Heat resistance, something part of Raiden's body, and every other extra resistance Raiden's cybernetics provide him. Source for this: https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https://preview.redd.it/mgrr-staff-members-commentaries-on-many-mgrr-characters-v0-zkuy8kn1l9y81.jpg?width=1156&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef307ccb813a54a72f3d41c16210ca6496a74a3c

Raiden's Radiation resistance is already cited in his VSBW profile I think

 

[NON-STOPPING_GAMER2009]

Either re-edit the OP and implement the scans, or create a new thread entirely.

I've provided sources why now. Do you want me to re-edit them inside or the reply is fine?

 

[StarShooter80]

That being in regard to Monsoon's feat, not to Raiden. Mistral can obviously upscale the 7-B+ feat. Sundowner too, since Raiden didn't won by virtue of overpowering. Sundowner's physicals are actually superior to Raiden's, so he should be 7-B+ without the "at most". Codec even states this guy hits hard (Attack Potency). At least Sundowner, if you may.

Sundowner seems fine, taking on Raiden confidently knowing Monsoon couldn’t. I still disagree with Mistral

Ok. That is debatable. Although I do believe Senator Armstrong upscales any version of Raiden.

Ripper Mode Raiden can match Armstrong physically during quick time events. Of course he’s weaker but still comparable to Armstrong.

Scaling to the other cyborgs, Sam's armor and Armstrong's nanomachines. All cyborgs use the same systems. That also goes for Radiation Manipulation resistance and Extreme Heat resistance, something part of Raiden's body, and every other extra resistance Raiden's cybernetics provide him. Source for this: https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https://preview.redd.it/mgrr-staff-members-commentaries-on-many-mgrr-characters-v0-zkuy8kn1l9y81.jpg?width=1156&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ef307ccb813a54a72f3d41c16210ca6496a74a3c

Raiden's Radiation resistance is already cited in his VSBW profile I think

Nice. Raiden’s radiation resistance is based on his skull suit iicr

 

[StarShooter80]

https://metalgear.fandom.com/wiki/Nanomachine#Medical_and_commercial_nanomachines (reference)

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/m...280.png.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130403084207 (something already accepted by VSBW in his page)

The first link is just fandom wiki and the second link doesn’t work

I've provided sources why now. Do you want me to re-edit them inside or the reply is fine?

I’d say edit it into the OP. It makes it easier for mods and prevents this from being taken down

 

[Antvasima]

@CrimsonStarFallen @DarkDragonMedeus @Armorchompy

What do you think about this?

 

[StarShooter80]

Who summoned Ant

 

[NON-STOPPING_GAMER2009]

The first link is just fandom wiki and the second link doesn’t work

I’d say edit it into the OP. It makes it easier for mods and prevents this from being taken down

Well, I use the information available on the wiki to cite it. Besides, “Diseases” are already noted on Vamp’s profile.

Not opening? Lemme try again

 

[NON-STOPPING_GAMER2009]

Who summoned Ant

I did. These shit HAVE to pass.

(Or at least some of them, some of them are must haves)

 

[NON-STOPPING_GAMER2009]

Sundowner seems fine, taking on Raiden confidently knowing Monsoon couldn’t. I still disagree with Mistral

Ok. Fine by me. Maybe do not upgrade Mistral. But Sundowner's a must.

Nice. Raiden’s radiation resistance is based on his skull suit iicr

It is actually based on his MGS4 key and his Patriots body, since this was mentioned in MGS4.

The first link is just fandom wiki and the second link doesn’t work

Well, it's a file page in the https://metalgear.fandom.com/wiki/Steven_Armstrong?so=search#Gallery, find the file for yourself (Concept Art 1)

Everything is here too (CYBORGS and SENATOR ARMSTRONG) in case you cannot access it

 

[NON-STOPPING_GAMER2009]

Provide the scans for this.

5:47

Also, Armstrong should have resistance to Electricity Manipulation
Also, Senator Armstrong should have resistance to Electricity Manipulation as seen here:

 

[NON-STOPPING_GAMER2009]

Ripper Mode Raiden can match Armstrong physically during quick time events. Of course he’s weaker but still comparable to Armstrong.

Yeah, a weakened and exhausted Armstrong with a Murasama blade on his abs. Armstrong doesn’t even get to use all of his strength in the scene. Where is the scan he is physically matching Armstrong other than that?

 

[StarShooter80]

Well, I use the information available on the wiki to cite it. Besides, “Diseases” are already noted on Vamp’s profile.

I already know about Vamp’s resistance. Just why should Armstorng’s Nanomachines scale to his?

I did. These shit HAVE to pass.

(Or at least some of them, some of them are must haves)

It’s just that Ant doesn’t answer to many threads cause of how busy he usually is, I’m just surprised he came into one for a small verse lol.

Yeah, a weakened and exhausted Armstrong with a Murasama blade on his abs. Armstrong doesn’t even get to use all of his strength in the scene. Where is the scan he is physically matching Armstrong other than that?

Not that moment. There’s a QTE for when Armstrong punches the Murasama out of Raiden’s hand, and then they clash physically. The scan is in Raiden’s striking strength section for Ripper Mode

 

[NON-STOPPING_GAMER2009]

I already know about Vamp’s resistance. Just why should Armstorng’s Nanomachines scale to his?

It’s just that Ant doesn’t answer to many threads cause of how busy he usually is, I’m just surprised he came into one for a small verse lol.

Not that moment. There’s a QTE for when Armstrong punches the Murasama out of Raiden’s hand, and then they clash physically. The scan is in Raiden’s striking strength section for Ripper Mode

Great, Striking Strength. Not Lifting Strength. And even then it was not doing much damage.

But anyways, I did provide the scan for Armstrong in the Reddit post. Last image.

 

[StarShooter80]

Great, Striking Strength. Not Lifting Strength. And even then it was not doing much damage.

But anyways, I did provide the scan for Armstrong in the Reddit post. Last image.

You should try to condense your responses to one reply, as reply spamming can clutter a thread

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Great, Striking Strength. Not Lifting Strength. And even then it was not doing much damage.

But anyways, I did provide the scan for Armstrong in the Reddit post. Last image.

If Raiden didn't scale to Armstrong's Lifting Strength then Armstrong's punch wouldn't have been stopped by Raiden catching his arm in that QTE.

 

[NON-STOPPING_GAMER2009]

Alr, we agreed on Jetstream Sam

 

[NON-STOPPING_GAMER2009]

If Raiden didn't scale to Armstrong's Lifting Strength then Armstrong's punch wouldn't have been stopped by Raiden catching his arm in that QTE.

Well, he didn't really catch it, he intercepted or blocked it. But that's not my point.

 

[NON-STOPPING_GAMER2009]

You should try to condense your responses to one reply, as reply spamming can clutter a thread

Sorry about that. I'm new here ok?

 

[NON-STOPPING_GAMER2009]

Alright, so do they pass or no?
We agree or no?

 

[StarShooter80]

Alright, so do they pass or no?

no you need at least 2 staff agreements (3 for a big verse, which MGS isn't in this case). If you want the thread to get more attraction, make sure to bump it every 10 hours

 

[NON-STOPPING_GAMER2009]

no you need at least 2 staff agreements (3 for a big verse, which MGS isn't in this case). If you want the thread to get more attraction, make sure to bump it every 10 hours

how do I do that? Send messages here?

 

[StarShooter80]

how do I do that? Send messages here?

Message staff members asking them for input for the thread, and link the thread

 

[Chariot190]

CHECK THE COMMENTS FOR EXTRA SCANS

Time to update Metal Gear again. Profiles are pretty rusty.
1. Radiation Manipulation and Extreme Heat resistance applies to pretty much everyone in Rising (because Raiden says Outer Haven won't affect him in MGS4 (used in MGS4 key), and all cyborgs use the same systems). It should also apply to Armstrong,

That's a tad out of context given Raiden was lowkey lying out his ass and wanted to commit suicide and Snake even calls him out for it.

They'd have it tho, just not for that.

since he scales to them anyway and Snake could walk through Outer Haven's microwave via his nanomachines.

Source? Pretty sure he's just built different.

2. Armstrong's lifting strength should be at least Class G because when he says "I could break the president in two, with my bare hands", he is able to effortlessly overpower a much stronger Raiden to the point where he's helpless, they're not equal in lifting strength at all. I don't think that is Class T but just saying. Also, Raiden was only able to match a much weakened Armstrong.

The problem with this, atm anyway, is that Raiden is almost baseline Class G, Armstrong isn't so much above him that we wouldn't need to add a prefix, even twice as strong is just Class G.

3. Armstrong should have resistance to Disease Manipulation because nanomachines like Vamp's given immunity to contaminants. His nanomachines were stated to be comparable to Vamp's (LOOK AT REDDIT POST "SENATOR ARMSTRONG")

Yeah probably.

4. Armstrong has pseudo-invulnerability and his nanomachines cannot be damaged, because he can block Sam's blade with his head (7:26) a vital place.

Not how this work, we only give invulnerability for shit like Super Sonic, Magnamon, 20th Century, etc.
There needs to be very explicit lore and statements given to a thing like that. It can't just be "oh theyre very hard to hurt", it has to be straight up impossible via supernatural yap.

This is just resistance to all the funny HF blade hax, which he already has.

Statements in codec are iffy and untrustworthy, as the characters themselves doubt the validity of their claims anyway, even Doktor says he's not sure what's going on.

It's case by case, codecs can be wrong, but they're pretty obvious when they are.

Ofc, going by the guidebook and in-game feats.

Guidebooks need to be non-contradicted just for reference, not saying it is, just for future reference.

Armstrong knows his nanomachines better than Doktor does.
5. Sundowner can also lift the Pincer blades easier than Raiden, which should upscale him, noted in his Lifting Strength category.

Literally just gameplay, they weigh so little that Raiden shouldn't even be able to feel them, Raiden just does big charged swings with them.

6. Sam can briefly overpower Raiden by slamming him down so we should note that.

Ok.

7. All HF users should have Matter Manipulation because these blades affect matter at a subatomic scale. All HF resistances should also scale to that.

i'd say no, it's already covered, but we've given it for less before so **** it.

8. Everyone should be 7-B+ or at least 7-B+ and not at most 7-B+ because they obviously massively upscale Monsoon's APC feats, for example, Armstrong, who is obviously stronger than Raiden.

Armstrong isn't everyone. Remember the Monsoon fight gtakes place entirely in Ripper Mode, which eclipses Raiden's base strength.
Also like, not sure why Mistral or Blade Wolf scale above a feat done by RM Raiden.

Also we don't upscale like that, usually we only upscale if the feat is with 25% the next tier, and there's a one shot involved. It isn;t high enough to do so.

9. Note down that Armstrong can ionize the air from the friction while dashing (same video as before, 5:47)

Like a hypersonic movement feat ig?

10. Armstrong and Monsoon should be possibly Genius because Operation Tecumseh was stated to have been comparable to 9/11 in scale (2:53)

Armstrong legit should be, I wouldn't even list it as possibly, just give it flatout. Monsoon tho is a lil tougher, he doesn't really have any intel feats on that scale.

Monsoon is on the same intellectual level anyway

Why? If there's a statement sure, but ya need sauce.

11. Boost Mistral and Sundowner IQs! Mistral could manipulate Blade Wolf and Sundowner creates simulations that feel "as real as anything else" for kids to get used to warfare, also he has at least 29 years of experience!

I mean they should both be Extraordinary Genius for combat, but we don't rate that like that anymore (we did for awhile, tbh feel like we should still but eh.
Sundowner didn't create that, the tech already existed. Being a war vet also doesn't mean you're a genius.

12. Ages...do I need to clarify? The wiki has it all.

Ok.

13. Sundowner can react to Ripper Mode Raiden,

Scans?

and Mistral can parry a Ripper Mode raiden if you replay the game, so they also scale their combat and reactions higher.

We don't factor that in, that's just NG+ stuff, it doesn't actually happen nor a reliable wya to scale.

14. Armstrong has 200% HP and should be double the feat Raiden scales, which is 131.75 megatons (7-A)

HP isn't AP or Durability, if anything it's endurance. We also don't use HP to scale for ANY game unless explicit lore like Undertale. We also don't really multiply stuff like that unless there's an explicit statement.

15. Raiden should also have HF resistance in his MGRR key, since all cyborgs use the same systems.

Yeah probably.

Source for cyborgs using the same systems and Armstrong's scaling to Vamp (CYBORGS and SENATOR ARMSTRONG):


If you want sources I'm gladly citing.

You HAVE to source everything btw, we can't accept it otherwise even if it's legit, we need stuff to link on the profiles after all.

Anyway yeah uh, a few of these just don't work deo to how standards work like multiplying and upscaling stuff, and the Ray feat is just bunk, but others you'd need to source some yap we can link, they're probably legit. I mean a handful of these do be legit, we just need sources.

The stat upgrades all invalid for one reason or another like Ray, if you want to aim for that again, you should look for other Rel feats in the verse, if you get a handful to support the Solid Snake MSX rel feat, an argument could be made for an upgrade but atm only one rel feat isn't enough to be consistent but there does exist at least one legit one as a foundation.

 

[NON-STOPPING_GAMER2009]

That's a tad out of context given Raiden was lowkey lying out his ass and wanted to commit suicide and Snake even calls him out for it.

Thanks for responding! But he was confident he could walk through it. Besides, there are other ways to kill yourself that aren’t radiation in Outer Heaven. And the fact he’s a cyborg makes it more plausible. Besides, the official Metal Gear wiki states it is legit.

Source? Pretty sure he's just built different.

Well, I don’t think Big Boss’s nuts being naturally rad proof is valid lol.

Not how this work, we only give invulnerability for shit like Super Sonic, Magnamon, 20th Century, etc.
There needs to be very explicit lore and statements given to a thing like that. It can't just be "oh theyre very hard to hurt", it has to be straight up impossible via supernatural yap.

This is just resistance to all the funny HF blade hax, which he already has.

Still, it was described as a general “hardening in a response to physical trauma”. Multiple times. Even by codec team. (5:41:02) describes them directly as “anti-shock” rather than specific resistance.

Guidebooks need to be non-contradicted just for reference, not saying it is, just for future reference.

Now I’ve checked again, the codec and guidebooks are fully compatible. I just heard some crazy stuff by someone else misquoting them.

Literally just gameplay, they weigh so little that Raiden shouldn't even be able to feel them, Raiden just does big charged swings with them.

Probably. But a lot of gameplay stuff are being used to scale.

i'd say no, it's already covered, but we've given it for less before so **** it.

Quantum Manipulation could easily mean High 1-B quantum rearrangement (example: Maykrs in DOOM)

Armstrong isn't everyone. Remember the Monsoon fight gtakes place entirely in Ripper Mode, which eclipses Raiden's base strength.
Also like, not sure why Mistral or Blade Wolf scale above a feat done by RM Raiden.

Also we don't upscale like that, usually we only upscale if the feat is with 25% the next tier, and there's a one shot involved. It isn;t high enough to do so.

Ok ok, you’re right. I change. Only Sundowner and Sam should. We agreed with the previous guy.

Like a hypersonic movement feat ig?

Yeah. Would be cool.

I mean they should both be Extraordinary Genius for combat, but we don't rate that like that anymore (we did for awhile, tbh feel like we should still but eh.
Sundowner didn't create that, the tech already existed. Being a war vet also doesn't mean you're a genius.

The simulations were his creation, the tech was there.

Armstrong legit should be, I wouldn't even list it as possibly, just give it flatout. Monsoon tho is a lil tougher, he doesn't really have any intel feats on that scale.

See their discussion. They’re clearly on the same intellectual level and seem well acquintated.

Scans?

I don’t have a clip myself but I remember doing it right after Monsoon. Try for yourself in the game. Until I find a clip idk however. Shit I wanna add aren’t always mainstream recorded.

The stat upgrades all invalid for one reason or another like Ray, if you want to aim for that again, you should look for other Rel feats in the verse, if you get a handful to support the Solid Snake MSX rel feat, an argument could be made for an upgrade but atm only one rel feat isn't enough to be consistent but there does exist at least one legit one as a foundation.

2.5c isn’t much of an outlier anyway. Considering all the MHS shit have been pulled out comfortably and it should only scale to RAY, and Raiden who engages it. And besides, the ones who will get the ratings are MGR characters and Metal Gear RAY, probably REX too. But anything for the cause I guess. But we do not want to debate this yet. I’ll make it pass on another thread. Plus, Sundowner blitzes plasma timers as a supporting scan (despite plasma speed being unknown it would make perfect sense for FTL reactions). Also, let’s not forget, EMP.

You HAVE to source everything btw, we can't accept it otherwise even if it's legit, we need stuff to link on the profiles after all.

Well, they’re trivial updates, I’ve provided sources where needed. Ask me specific parts to cite. In case about the 7-B+ we solved it. Sam and Sundowner get the rating. No one else.

 

[NON-STOPPING_GAMER2009]

Message staff members asking them for input for the thread, and link the thread

I don’t wanna be annoying lol. Although Chariot did come here, guess that’s something.

 

[StarShooter80]

I don’t wanna be annoying lol. Although Chariot did come here, guess that’s something.

That's the only efficient way of getting your thread noticed. Also Chariot isn't staff

 

[NON-STOPPING_GAMER2009]

That's the only efficient way of getting your thread noticed. Also Chariot isn't staff

Ok, who do I message then?
I thought he was lol, he’s the biggest MGS grinder here

 

[NON-STOPPING_GAMER2009]

bump

 

[NON-STOPPING_GAMER2009]

bump

 

[NON-STOPPING_GAMER2009]

bump

 

[NON-STOPPING_GAMER2009]

bump

 

[Minos_the_Judge]

Agree with everything

 

[NON-STOPPING_GAMER2009]

Agree with everything

thanks