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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

Arcker123 said:
I'd place it in the same category as Ichibe's Ichimonji. It's basically the equivalent of a Zanpakuto, but far predates their creation and implementation.

The idea he has a zanpakuto complete with a Shinuchi (2nd state like Ichibe), is salivating though.
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Just the Soul King having a sword has me asking questions. Makes me wonder what that thing could do or how broken (in terms of hax) it could be.

Peter1129 said:
Oh yeah that blade. Was wondering why the design looked kinda familiar. So it was that Chinese weapon huh. Kinda surprised I didn’t realize that despite being Chinese myself. Would be kinda interesting in a way if it’s shown that Soul King is essentially one of those 仙人 from Chinese cultivation novels.
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His name draws from Gnosticism and he has a Chinese inspired weapon... Hmm...
 
and yes, becoming a single thing with zanpakuto is the last step of the evolution, hence why the whole narrative of the blade is me, and also you can use the full potential of your zanpakuto if you fuse with it

Just basic logic
 
Soldier_Blue said:
Just the Soul King having a sword has me asking questions. Makes me wonder what that thing could do or how broken (in terms of hax) it could be.


His name draws from Gnosticism and he has a Chinese inspired weapon... Hmm...
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Okay, it just hit me:
If the Soul King had a sword... And it was held in his right hand still at the time of his dismemberment... But now it is nowhere to be seen...

So, where the hell is it now?
 
Voidnether said:
Low 1-C even as a "possibly" wouldn't exist lmao
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Not if said will transcends everything in the verse.

But yeah just joking based on stuff I’ve read in other novels. Like there was this one series or rather franchise I read where the final chapter reveals that even this one god that can casually erase universes with a wave of her hand is nothing compared to the true god who might also be the will of the world (multiverse) who transcends even her and set up a whole cycle of fate that causes this one universe to reach a bad end where everything dies no matter what happens.

So like five series worth of protagonist and all of them stopped a world ending threat in each of their series but in the 5th and final series it’s revealed that all the past protagonists have died and in the end the world they tried saving was the original world from the 1st series stuck in a never ending cycle with everything being fated to happen all over again.

Kinda bittersweet end as the ending was open ended with the protagonist of the original series being summoned once again to try and save the world and meeting with his friends and lover once again.
 
Peter1129 said:
Not if said will transcends everything in the verse.

But yeah just joking based on stuff I’ve read in other novels. Like there was this one series or rather franchise I read where the final chapter reveals that even this one god that can casually erase universes with a wave of her hand is nothing compared to the true god who might also be the will of the world (multiverse) who transcends even her and set up a whole cycle of fate that causes this one universe to reach a bad end where everything dies no matter what happens.

So like five series worth of protagonist and all of them stopped a world ending threat in each of their series but in the 5th and final series it’s revealed that all the past protagonists have died and in the end the world they tried saving was the original world from the 1st series stuck in a never ending cycle with everybody being fated to happen all over again.
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I mean what is there to be expected of Bleach when dimensional differences are used to explain the power gap
 
TOAAPRESENCE1 said:
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Voidnether said:
The ads are so ass
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Unless this site has changed its policies regarding links to pirated content since I was an admin here, I would advise deleting this immediately and taking it to private conversation.

Also, the guy above me is right. In a day and age when even mobile browsers have powerful ad blockers, you're saying this? Come on, child.
 
Soldier_Blue said:
Unless this site has changed its policies regarding links to pirated content since I was an admin here, I would advise deleting this immediately and taking it to private conversation.

Also, the guy above me is right. In a day and age when even mobile browsers have powerful ad blockers, you're saying this? Come on, child.
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done
 
Voidnether said:
I mean what is there to be expected of Bleach when dimensional differences are used to explain the power gap
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Ehh I dunno. Just seemed like a good place to follow up on the Ganju joke. Like at least I’m not saying stuff like Ganju is actually tier 0 or some other stuff like that. Cause that’s just boring and below even mid when it comes to joking.
 
Peter1129 said:
Ehh I dunno. Just seemed like a good place to follow up on the Ganju joke. Like at least I’m not saying stuff like Ganju is actually tier 0 or some other stuff like that. Cause that’s just boring and below even mid when it comes to joking.
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That's fine
 
Also I just watched the raw on a BiliBili live stream the moment it came out in Japan as I could roughly understand Japanese due to how many animes and tokusatsu I’ve seen already.
 
I was thinking, especially based on how he's depicted in the anime, that Almighty Yhwach should have infinite speed rather than teleportation when using The Almighty. The sound effects and the way his cape moves the first time he dodges Ichibei suggest actual movement instead of just teleportation. It’s similar to how Wally West (The Flash) moves in the fourth dimension to achieve immeasurable speeds in the third dimension. Yhwach, however, moves through The Almighty to achieve infinite speed in the present.

Basically, since there's actual movement involved, I believe it should be classified as 'infinite speeds by moving with The Almighty' rather than teleportation. Papa Arc, you have the final say on this.
 
Arc7Kuroi said:
Almighty didn’t really amp Yhwach’s AP as much as it just let him get free hits on Ichigo and evade all Ichigo’s attacks. Like they’re already relative, so obviously Yhwach’s going to perform much better when he can foresee everything Ichigo will do, and UI dodge everything.
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To me , it does seem that the anime show Yhwach getting an AP boost from activating Almighty.
Huge energy pillar as he activate it, far bigger than the one made by Base Yhwach in this very episode and shock even Ichigo.
The multi arrows attack made right after he activate it needed at GT to break them, while ichigo could Bitchslap away a Qualkreiss from Base Yhwach without GT.
 
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Naeblis495 said:
To me , it does seem that the anime show Yhwach getting an AP boost from activating Almighty.
Huge energy pillar as he activate it, far bigger than the one made by Base Yhwach and shock even Ichigo.
The multi arrows attack made right after he activate it needed at GT to break them, while ichigo could Bitchslap away a Qualkreiss from Base Yhwach without GT.
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He regains his strength during the fight against Ichibei, which allows him to control the A, but his strength is not amplified when using it.
 
Also just realized that this episode probably revealed the reason why Ichibe wasn’t worried if Yhwach won. Like we knew that Ichibe was originally gonna turn Ichigo into the Soul King to maintain the three worlds. But everybody thought wouldn’t Yhwach just kill Ichigo like he did with Adnyeus to start the collapse again?

This episode revealed that you need to have the powers of Shinigami, Human, Quincy, Fullbringer, & Hollow all in one to be able to fully break the seal of the soul king who maintains the three worlds. So if Ichigo was gone Yhwach would have no way of breaking the seal so Ichibe probably believed they could maintain the three worlds like that. But nobody expected Yhwach to be able to absorb Adnyeus’ corpse so even if Ichibe did go that route it probably would’ve ended up failing after Yhwach absorbs Adnyeus and gains the power of all five races to kill Ichigo.
 
Soldier_Blue said:
Okay, it just hit me:
If the Soul King had a sword... And it was held in his right hand still at the time of his dismemberment... But now it is nowhere to be seen...

So, where the hell is it now?
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I've seen some theories that it could be the Shinken Hakkyōken (the Ise sword), which would be awesome, but if that is the case, I wonder how it changed in appearance from when the Soul King wielded it.
 
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