My very first steneces begins with "Im super busy right now ... ima try to give a deep analysis this or maybe nex week".
I dont have much time right now.
most of your responses are legit whataboutism on other series rather than discussing Goku's martial arts in terms of its prowess and its measure in skill.
and losing to a martial arts hax user because your martial arts don't use hax doesn't make the hax better it just gives the benefit of the doubt but in its entirety, it is literally a nothing burger.
My very first steneces begins with "Im super busy right now ... ima try to give a deep analysis this or maybe nex week".
Battleboarding could be so easy if you guys used your brain for a second. Everyone and their momma knows that Goku can keep up against guys with a big stats gap:
This was done against U6 warrios and said warrios have a bigger potential and that girl is a prodigy and the only saiyan confirmed to be able to go super saiyan without any trigger. Oh and she was much more powerful.
So why cant he beat stronger guys? He lacks hax that ignor convential durability. Boom. You aint doin shit without it. Vegeta vs Cell is a great example: Vegeta put everything he had into his kick and touched the vitals of off guard Cell. And gues what? It didnt do shit.
Dragonball fights in a nutshell that without hax or an angle technique like UI:
So why doesnt Goku learn any hax instead of fighting them like a real man? One of the many reasons, its out of character and wouldnt really fit Goku due a) he got the mentallity of a very old school martial artist b) natural born warrior and he just wants an "equal" match. Vegeta , in the moro arch , leanred a new ability cuz it was "necessary". The same teacher asked him if he wants to learn new things but Vegetas response was "No, thanks. I just want to make things fair."
And Goku is much more stuborn when it comes to that.
lastly don't imply that being familiar with Chinese or video games makes you a weirdo that's basically what you did with your last statement whether it is intentional or not.
Stop crying. At least I told you that im nt familiar with the chinese/video game H2H unlike you and the other weirdo who cleary never spent a min reading/watching Dragonball.
kenshiro uses hax with his martial arts to achieve levels of being untouchable. His one-hit technique via touching is the only skill worth ability but even then that kind of technique lacks complexity which is mostly purely precision.
Mate, what makes Kenshrio dangerous are the various forms of precog, many deadly techniques even if we just stick to pure H2H and one of the best defense that cant be copied and gives him absolute nothingness. He can do everything from close quarters to playing the range game.
You guys have no idea how busted he is. I would say that every single martial artsist is wanked but Kenshiro might be the only one who isnt cuz even the guys who try to wank him, are doing such a bad job.
so let me ask can he fight if his 1 hit-touch exploding technique works? Of course he can he did but in the process used something even worse which is a hax where you literally cannot touch him because he lacks a true physical form.
Tell me more or better stop here cuz I have read it like 10 times from front to back, buddeh.
Also, Muso Tensei shouldnt be used in H2H but im fine with it.
can you see how absurd that you claim the best martial artist also falls into the same trap the Chinese skillslops you say.
Ive no idea what you a trying to tell me here. Ive said hes the 2. best guy. On top of that i never said that hax shouldnt be allowed in H2H. Since we are here, you do know that martial arts were created for small and weak fellas? Basically what martial arts teaches you is how to take fully advantage of physics and apply it to your opponent. The equivalent of it are martial arts hax.
Goku fights prodigys (Kefla, Broly) , guys with ith an immeasurable potential/talent (Jiren) etc and he does it with themmmm hands. The equivalent of it would be a small guy without a martial arts background against a big and very strong guy. I got mad respect for my man Goku!
Again: My point was just due Dragonballs power system and Goku lacking martial arts hax, is the main reason why he cant defeat them.
not to actual talk about the points you brought up
Which points? that Baki does "impossible things " and it got a better "explanation".
Like Bro? Goku can fight blind using only air current which is impossible. What about predicting Hit? With Hits physicals alone, there are 64 possibilities and the fact he can make said hax shorter and longer addds an almost infinite amount of possiblities. But before you predicit said action, you have to predicit where Hit appears.
You guys just talked shit while not knowing anything about Dragonball. I only do that when im familiar with said verses.
Your other point was "no statements, only showings".
We arent discussing an universal destruction statement which is easily done. Martial arts need a bit more brain cells and more panels which was a luxury in the 80-90s. On top of that you want Akira Toriyama to "waste" fuckton of time in researching stuff? You wanna know how to generate power? You need flexible hips and strong rotational core strength while shifting your weight and some more lbs would be good cuz its help with transfering the generated force.
Insteadt of going the route of your wannabe mangaka, Toriyama was smart and went the easy route. Some may says he was "lazy" but he was just smart and saved a lot of time/resources and thus could spent time on other projects (he was a workhorse).
Grandpa Gohan got 2 statements, Roshi 1, then theres Satans statement of being the stronget grappler and it was made pretty clear that martial arts are just fodder to KI and KI is the pinnacle of skills.
Looking at the whole thing im pretty sure it was author intent for them to be masters of every single martial arts.
Ultra instinct allowing you to do more doesn't equate being better skillwise
Learn to read between the lines, buddeh. All im gonna say is UI varies for every single fictional series. Daniels UI from Lookism aint shit compared to Yujiros UI which he copied from Baki and its nothing compared to DBS UI. You guys are just sticking to one thing while im looking at the whole picture.
Gaia with DBS UI would make some big waves against my man Yujiro.
specially when its appearance showcased only faster dodging that goku simply acted faster before the hit landed and the fact that he also became far more durable normally
One of UIs advantages are it improves your movements passivley and makes you stronger.
Concrats pal.
