Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

[M3X_2.0]

I’m going to sleep yall have a good night/day

 

[Giannysmag]

I’m going to sleep yall have a good night/day

Goodnight i'll be watching you

 

[M3X_2.0]

Goodnight i'll be watching you

I am inside your walls

 

[Giannysmag]

I am inside your walls

I'm inside your mattress

 

[M3X_2.0]

I'm inside you're mattress

Too bad for you that my English vocabulary is limited and I don’t know what a mattress is.

 

[Giannysmag]

Too bad for you that my English vocabulary is limited and I don’t know what a mattress is.

This

Sleep well

 

[Sir_sun_man]

Fine I guess, not really what I’m arguing.

aight

Eh, same thing in the end, and that’s what I was referring anyway. Blood Armor ain’t even a variation of BM like let’s say Piercing Blood, it’s just using hardened blood to cover your limbs. Still, what Kamo did here is far beyond anything Yuji has done with BM until 261.

I mean not really, kamo pushed out blood from his body to create a a barrier between him and the fist it was still just regular blood, choso flatout compresses and hardens his blood to make actual armour the difference is noteble.

Yuji making blood with CE is not blood manipulation but rather his physiology. This is a Death Painting Womb thing. It sure makes his BM more efficient (kinda, he burns more CE) but that’s not about his BM being good.

that Physiology allows for his BM to be good, that is the main point mate, if two characters have the same ability but one can only use it a comple of times before they die while the other can use it pretty much limitlessly (I know its not limitless but might as well be in comperison) the one who got the unique physiology that allows the limitless use simply has the better application of the ability.

Yuji has a more efficient way to produce blood than Kamo who is limited to what he carries, and still cannot do half of what Kamo does with way less blood.

yeah he doesn't have the offense, but unlike kamo, he can use his BM to keep his body in one piece and survive attacks that would put others on the same level as him into the ground case and point world slash and domain expansion. Like yeah kashimo can push out a couple of mediocre attacks before running dry on blood while yuji can use his blood manip to stay in the fight while everyone else is droping dead and I'd say that level of surviablity is far superior to the low level of offense Kamo's blood give him.

Anything but Supernova. You do realize that Supernova comes from Convergence, which Yuji cannot use, right?

again that why I am saying lite, its not a full fledge supernova but its the bone of it the bursting of blood is the main principle behind that ability and if yuji gets the hang of convergence he will be able to use it, its not some end all be all ability here its just yuji having the bones of the most offensive ability of BM

What is having a better BM to you?

Better BM is having the most applicable use of the ability and gaining the massive level of surivability that yuji currenly has is better than piercing blood on its own for example.

I think we’re discussing semantics and we’re not on the same page. Yuji does not have better BM than Kamo, he has better efficiency at it given his physiology if the same of a Death Painting Womb, not related to Blood Manipulation as a whole (the CT). Even with this advantage, Yuji cannot do most of the things Kamo does: Convergence, Supernova, Piercing Blood, Flowing Red Scale, Crimson Binding and Slicing Exorcism.

that better efficiency is what makes his better, having more varity at the expanse of barely being able to use it is pointless.

? I’m agreeing with now. Not anymore now though **** it.

? I eh, mind rephasing? cuse I got no clue what you said there.

If you think so.

 

[M3X_2.0]

This

Sleep well

You wouldn’t believe how we call these in here

 

[Giannysmag]

You wouldn’t believe how we call these in here

What do you call them?

 

[M3X_2.0]

What do you call them?

Colchão.

 

[Giannysmag]

 

[Nierre]

real.

 

[Giannysmag]

 

[Giannysmag]

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Few JJK fans trying to compete with MHA fans for worst fandom Award.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Few JJK fans trying to compete with MHA fans for worst fandom Award.

I feel like we aren't on that level just yet, but my God, sometimes it really feels like it.

 

[BadSystems]

This shit is so peak it elicited a physical reaction from me (why didn't it embed)

 

[Sir_sun_man]

This shit is so peak it elicited a physical reaction from me (why didn't it embed)

**** no...

We are not winning against THAT!

I mean you can bring out the merger and even then it'd get its ass beat.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

This shit is so peak it elicited a physical reaction from me (why didn't it embed)

21 finger Sukuna lessgoooooooo

Truly our Sukuna Kaisen.

 

[Aaaaa11112222]

I want to mention that the idea of Sukuna dodging Kashimo's attack is something that he probably doesn't scale to. The "glow" that comes out from Kashimo's palm, aka the spark, could simply be referring to the buildup of CE, which was what Sukuna reacted to, instead of the actual attack. After all, that's what the spark means. Is there anything wrong with this? Or, any contentions?

@Dr._whiteee, I've seen you in a thread where you did argue that Sukuna was FTL via this, so I was wondering if you in particular have any.

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

Current Yuji dies to Reggie Star. I won't be changed from such position. Sorry.

Arkenis, we know you’ve been a troll

 

[Aaaaa11112222]

Also, didn't Gojo say that the detention for Black Flash is lackluster? If he's stating that the requirement for Black Flash was the distortion of space and the physical hit of 0.000001 seconds, he could use it at will. So, doesn't this mean that Black Flash doesn't require the timing of 0.000001 at all, which is why he called it lackluster in the first place and no character in the verse can scale to it?

 

[Sir_sun_man]

Also, didn't Gojo say that the detention for Black Flash is lackluster? If he's stating that the requirement for Black Flash was the distortion of space and the physical hit of 0.000001 seconds, he could use it at will. So, doesn't this mean that Black Flash doesn't require the timing of 0.000001 at all, which is why he called it lackluster in the first place and no character in the verse can scale to it?

no its more so that the actual time frame is, like he says he could hit it at will if it was just that but black flash also requires about a dozen other variables it seems.

 

[Aaaaa11112222]

no its more so that the actual time frame is, like he says he could hit it at will if it was just that but black flash also requires about a dozen other variables it seems.

So, was it just Gojo taking Black Flash granted as a speed thing, when, in reality, it's so much more?

 

[Sir_sun_man]

So, was it just Gojo taking Black Flash granted as a speed thing, when, in reality, it's so much more?

it was that the rest of jujutsu society was taking it as just a speed thing he even goes "what makes ya think I can just do black flashes at will? the fact that I have six eyes?" and then he goes into how blackflash takes a lot more than just speed and if it was just speed he'd be able to pop them off all willy nilly.

 

[Arkenis]

?????
OFFGUARD?
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in what world is this offguard!? he is staring right at her and she proceeds to send him flying with one punch.

I don't know if you're doing this purposely or simply not following, but that isn't the scene where he gets his skull cracked as you said, he got punched there and had a bruise on his face.

I even showed you the scenes that we were talking about.

You mean the Ryu post domain? You forget when he took a punch from Rika and smiled it off, like it didn't do any significant damage? It's almost like the head punch was off guard and on a weaker Ryu.

 

[Arkenis]

I want to mention that the idea of Sukuna dodging Kashimo's attack is something that he probably doesn't scale to. The "glow" that comes out from Kashimo's palm, aka the spark, could simply be referring to the buildup of CE, which was what Sukuna reacted to, instead of the actual attack. After all, that's what the spark means. Is there anything wrong with this? Or, any contentions?

That scan says within, the glow is outside.

 

[Rosa]

Arkenis, we know you’ve been a troll

ungodly rare W for you

 

[Sir_sun_man]

I don't know if you're doing this purposely or simply not following, but that isn't the scene where he gets his skull cracked as you said, he got punched there and had a bruise on his face.

I even showed you the scenes that we were talking about.

That is also not off guard he is fully in the fight in an up close and personal encounter and he was already struck prior to the rika punch meaning he had CE running through him.

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

I will say, all the Gojo downscale theories might’ve been right. Yuta can’t insta blitz Sukuna like that right now even with Gojo’s stats

 

[Arkenis]

That is also not off guard he is fully in the fight in an up close and personal encounter and he was already struck prior to the rika punch meaning he had CE running through him.

It is though. He was surprised by Yuta getting his ct usage back, hit by Thin Ice Breaker, and then hit from above by Rika. Ce can be running through him, no one disagree with that, its more above the two previous things preventing him and from blocking the attack. He just wasn't prepared for that, same with him being off guard from his own GB.

And regardless of this point, I've already said this is pointless as it shows Ryu can take these types of hits even while heavily drained of curse energy from having done domain and battling Yuta and Uro prior.

 

[Sakamaki_Fuji]

I will say, all the Gojo downscale theories might’ve been right. Yuta can’t insta blitz Sukuna like that right now even with Gojo’s stats

All i see is Yuji upscale

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

I will say, all the Gojo downscale theories might’ve been right. Yuta can’t insta blitz Sukuna like that right now even with Gojo’s stats

Yuji and Todo upscale then lmao

 

[M3X_2.0]

Yuji and Todo can barely do anything to Sukuna though

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

Yuji and Todo can barely do anything to Sukuna though

I was playing to point out the flaw in his logic

 

[Rosa]

I will say, all the Gojo downscale theories might’ve been right. Yuta can’t insta blitz Sukuna like that right now even with Gojo’s stats

Who said he has Gojo's stats? He'd need to be able to reinforce the body with CE as effectively as Gojo does, which isn't necessarily a given as six eyes users can very is strength and jujutsu skill.

 

[Arkenis]

What if since Yuta's brain hasn't become accustomed to using limitless or the six eyes like Gojo's, the five minutes are gonna be also hindered by him weakening over time?

 

[Rosa]

What if since Yuta's brain hasn't become accustomed to using limitless or the six eyes like Gojo's, the five minutes are gonna be also hindered by him weakening over time?

This is my suspicion too. Even if you want to say Sukuna was holding back SO MUCH against Gojo that even in this half-dead state he can match a Gojo tier in stats, Sukuna doesn't have access to DA, the WCS, Mahoraga, and his domain is limited to 99 seconds when it took him 3 minutes and 11 seconds to destroy Gojo's domain. Sukuna has no way to bypass infinity and no way to outlast UV, so unless we're witnessing Sukuna's death next chapter (unlikely, Yuji will be the one to kill Sukuna, not Yuta) Yuta has to have some limitation.

We know a sorcerers power is largely defined by how well they can manipulate their CE with the six eyes not necessarily being an amp but more so a tool which makes it far easier for a sorcerer to do, but if that sorcerer is exceptionally sloppy (like Gege made an effort to note to us this very chapter) I can see Yuta not maximising the benefit of the six eyes like someone as talented and exceptional as Gojo could. This could manifest in him being overall weaker, my prediction, or maybe we'd see Yuta have to use limitless the way pre-RCT Gojo did (or perhaps even to a worse level) where it's still an exceptionally strong CT but has flaws which Sukuna can exploit to prolong the battle.

 

[Arkenis]

This is my suspicion too. Even if you want to say Sukuna was holding back SO MUCH against Gojo that even in this half-dead state he can match a Gojo tier in stats, Sukuna doesn't have access to DA, the WCS, Mahoraga, and his domain is limited to 99 seconds when it took him 3 minutes and 11 seconds to destroy Gojo's domain. Sukuna has no way to bypass infinity and no way to outlast UV, so unless we're witnessing Sukuna's death next chapter (unlikely, Yuji will be the one to kill Sukuna, not Yuta) Yuta has to have some limitation.

I would like to see them both die, and not just die but this death scene tie back to what Yuji's grandpa said about how to die; being surrounded by others, portrayed in Yuta to not only wrap up Yuta who became a monster as the old mc and tie in a part of Yuji but also clash with Sukuna's ideals and show how their ideals end up being superior in the end. Sukuna became a monster for his own selfish reasons, the sorcerers became monsters for one another, which also can tie into the theme of love and isolation Gege has had for Sukuna.

 

[M3X_2.0]

I think Gojo will be massively weakened on the same level as Sukuna because he was cut in half. Or any limitation from Yuta using the body.

I don’t believe it will be Gojo at full power and people saying this are delusional. A full power Gojo fighting current Sukuna would obliterate him.