BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

[Excellence616]

The point is Yhwach can't do shit because he only has at best 4D AP vs 5D dura, at best he could incon because no one in the DB verse can counter The Almighty aside from SDBH

High Dura won't stop shit. He doesn't have Durability Negation resistance. High Dimensional AP and Durability ≠ Immunity to Lower Dimensional attack unless he is a higher dimensional being/higher dimensional existence.

Deathdealing gg

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

High Dura won't stop shit. He doesn't have Durability Negation resistance. High Dimensional AP and Durability ≠ Immunity to Lower Dimensional attack unless he is a higher dimensional being/higher dimensional existence.

Deathdealing gg

Hax demons terrify me on this site

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

I guess another point is that Yhwach has macro-quantum soul-based decon, which the DB verse gets massively beaten out by soul hax.

 

[Adam1396]

I kinda wish Aizen's Hogyoku evolutions went even deeper into the abstract and body horror style of transformations ngl.

It did went though. That's why he was able to destroy dangai cleaner.
His appearance was neat until butterfly kicked in.

 

[AppleLord]

Do you know what happens when a lower dimensional character touches a higher dimensional character?

Feats? Never heard of Zeno being a higher dimensional character.

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

Feats? Never heard of Zeno being a higher dimensional character.

dragon ball used cringe (hypertimelines )

 

[Naeblis495]

High Dura won't stop shit. He doesn't have Durability Negation resistance. High Dimensional AP and Durability ≠ Immunity to Lower Dimensional attack unless he is a higher dimensional being/higher dimensional existence.

Deathdealing gg

Yeah ,thought so. Zeno get haxxed to death.

 

[AppleLord]

dragon ball used cringe (hypertimelines )

Canon statements? Having the ability to travel outside of universes isn't a feat. Goku can travel to Zen'o's palace and so do others. Zen'o can't access timeliness on his own. Goku came to pick him up in that universe he erased. It didn't even destroyed all timelines. Just his own.

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

Canon statements? Having the ability to travel outside of universes isn't a feat. Goku can travel to Zen'o's palace and so do others. Zen'o can't access timeliness on his own. Goku came to pick him up in that universe he erased. It didn't even destroyed all timelines. Just his own.

Individual timelines ARE the hypertimelines as currently accepted.

 

[TOAAPRESENCE1]

Would dura neg work on a character with higher dimensional durability coming from someone with lower dimensional AP?

that is by definition what Durability negation ability do, negate/bypass the dura of the target. Zeno himself is a 3D being, he just has higher dura and AP.

 

[Westcoast5005]

Wouldn’t Zeno Just erase all timeliness
Can Yhwach return from that?

 

[AnAverageUsername]

What the hell is a hypertimeline

 

[Hellscream]

Wouldn’t Zeno Just erase all timeliness
Can Yhwach return from that?

Uhh, he can't
most he did was destroy a single timeline

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

that is by definition what Durability negation ability do, negate/bypass the dura of the target. Zeno himself is a 3D being, he just has higher dura and AP.

Now all we need is Gojo vs Saber

 

[Westcoast5005]

Uhh, he can't
most he did was destroy a single timeline

He’s ap is low 1c he definitely can

 

[AppleLord]

Individual timelines ARE the hypertimelines as currently accepted.

Okay and?

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

Okay and?

Me when I validly answer a question you ask.

Shut up AppleLord.

 

[AppleLord]

Me when I validly answer a question you ask.

Shut up AppleLord.

Scapegoat. Do you have anything of value to add?

Dance with me.

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

Scapegoat. Do you have anything of value to add?

Dance with me.

Who are you? I don't remember talking to you.

 

[KingogKings777]

Both of you need to touch grass.

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

Both of you need to touch grass.

Sounds mid.

 

[AppleLord]

Who are you? I don't remember talking to you.

Know that you will be remembered, not because of who you are, but because of what you have done. You receive likes not because others agree with you, but because they don't like me. Even if they do agree with you, it's because of what I have done, not because of who you are. You are most welcomed.

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

Know that you will be remembered, not because of who you are, but because of what you have done. You receive likes not because others agree with you, but because they don't like me. Even if they do agree with you, it's because of what I have done, not because of who you are. You are most welcomed.

Ok.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Know that you will be remembered, not because of who you are, but because of what you have done. You receive likes not because others agree with you, but because they don't like me. Even if they do agree with you, it's because of what I have done, not because of who you are. You are most welcomed.

Back to the Aslume with you

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

Now all we need is Gojo vs Saber

Which Saber?

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

Back to the Aslume with you

Did you mean, "asylum?"

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Which Saber?

Artoria, so we can have the Blue of the Six Eyes vs the Saber of Blue

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

Artoria, so we can have the Blue of the Six Eyes vs the Saber of Blue

I see. That's sounds pretty fun (sort of, RIP Gojo).

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Did you mean, "asylum?"

No, Aslume

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

But here's a really interesting matchup: EOS Aizen vs current Reinhard.

Can Satella's Red-haired king pull some bullshit skill to save his ass?

Or does Aizen give him the SS Ichigo treatment?

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

I see. That's sounds pretty fun (sort of, RIP Gojo).

Does she have any specific spatial manip to beat Infinity like spatial destruction? And is it on her 6-C key or her 1-C key(s)?

 

[Bastolan27]

Gojo can't bypass avalon

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Gojo can't bypass avalon

What about Avalon restricted?

 

[CodeCCLL]

But here's a really interesting matchup: EOS Aizen vs current Reinhard.

Since Reinhard couldn't kill Aizen, Aizen would easily win with Kyoka Suigetsu.

 

[KingogKings777]

But here's a really interesting matchup: EOS Aizen vs current Reinhard.

Can Satella's Red-haired king pull some bullshit skill to save his ass?

Or does Aizen give him the SS Ichigo treatment?

Just make a match up.

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

No, Aslume

Ok then.

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

Does she have any specific spatial manip to beat Infinity like spatial destruction? And is it on her 6-C key or her 1-C key(s)?

She doesn't as far as I remember. The problem is that Gojo legitimately cannot do anything to her because Servants have 4D invulnerability and resistances to almost every hax on the website (and Saber has layered resistance (which is also power nullification) on top of that).

Also, I'm not entirely sure how it's treated here, but Limitless being based on Gojo's perception might make it not work against Saber.

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

She doesn't as far as I remember. The problem is that Gojo legitimately cannot do anything to her because Servants have 4D invulnerability and resistances to almost every hax on the website (and Saber has layered resistance (which is also power nullification) on top of that).

Also, I'm not entirely sure how it's treated here, but Limitless being based on Gojo's perception might make it not work against Saber.

Is this in both tier 6 and 1 keys?

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Just make a match up.

Yeah, but I don't wanna be infamous for making stomps, so I want your opinion before I go making random ass matchups

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Since Reinhard couldn't kill Aizen, Aizen would easily win with Kyoka Suigetsu.

In my opinion, it's a stomp, but not really because of that.

Reinhard's arguements are bullskill yada yada skill yada resurrection yada yada bullshintuition yada yada, whatever.

Aizen has 4D RW, Reiatsu Crush (which even if Reinhard has resistance, it's a passive 3-C force), and better immortality + reactive evolution that mind you allowed him to go from 4-A to 3-C in three evolutions (if we ignore him going from 5-C to 4-A in one), and Reinhard lacks the means to negate his immortality. KS does have a big role in the fight due to the hyponosis, but Re:Zero characters have that bullshit that their supporters always use where they would just say "Reinhard would just fight with his intuition that allows him to dodge 300 million immesurable speed attacks from all directions with no arms, no legs, all 5 senses cut off, while decapitated and his head on Jupiter", which I would not know the interaction it would have.

Plus Reinhard can't use blitzing amps if speed is equalized because even his combat speed is slower than Aizen's general speed (FTL vs FTL+), and sure his AD/RE would let him grow stronger after he (definitely) dies if he can resurrect, but before that he would either be thrown into Negacion before he can AD fast enough, or Aizen will just use Hado 58 or something to EE him, all of that on top of being caught in KS.

Basically, Rein has no wincons at all because he's being passively withered away and has to deal with hax way above his paygrade while being unable to blitz without evolving, and he will not be able to do that before Aizen puts him in the ground. Plus I'm pretty sure Aizen isn't getting as utterly skill stomped like Mori Jin vs Saitama or sum shit.