Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

[eibwen]

I dont think the "end" you mentioned here is only about the fact that sukuna win, cuz even when the fight started people have already predict that

Like I said, people would have complained regardless. Even if Sukuna created a new technique in the middle of the fight, Gojo fan girls would have still found a way to call it an asspull. The fight is over, and people need to accept that fact and move on. Not to mention, the Ten Shadows vs. Limitless technique was teased from the beginning of the series. That foreshadowing would have gone to waste. The fight seemed like Sukuna was using his experience and knowledge of Jujutsu to prove why he was the King of Curses, taking the new technique he acquired to another level. I honestly don't have any problem with how it ended.

for some reason the 1000 years old clan have no clue about how mahoraga adaption work up until a 1000 years sealed dude find out?
If 10 shadow vs limitless is the peak forshadowing, it shouldve ended with sukuna sacrifice megumi soul for a complete Ten Shadown Domain Expansion or smth

But this is just people complaining even they enjoyed the fight until chapter 235, but just because Gojo lost in chapter 236, the whole fight becomes bad.

no one ever said the whole thing is bad? like, not the majority of people, it has everything from cool abilities, tactics, raw bruttal fight

Ignored all of the above, that end is also bad for others reason : It didnt even use the full potential of TS, it was barely "strong adaption", what about the jump into your opponent shadow? honestly that would be a better way to just straight up bypass infinity, what about utilizing others shikigami, fuses one time and thats it? It ruined gojo's character, not even the sukuna glazing in the after life, but how haibara commented about him not caring for anyone else. Wreck an OP character for an even more OP character with plot armor
logical issues was too much and then ppl belike "nu uh, it was peak"

 

[Sir_sun_man]

for some reason the 1000 years old clan have no clue about how mahoraga adaption work up until a 1000 years sealed dude find out?
If 10 shadow vs limitless is the peak forshadowing, it shouldve ended with sukuna sacrifice megumi soul for a complete Ten Shadown Domain Expansion or smth

yeah cuse no one's beaten it before, thats like a pretty massive plot point of that.


I am not getting into the other bit because I have argued about that point enough for one life time

 

[eibwen]

yeah cuse no one's beaten it before, thats like a pretty massive plot point of that.

doesnt mean we dont have experience about it? confirmed information before sukuna are its take times, it can adapt to either neutralize or uneffected by stuff (tbh this on its own should be a hint, its an progressive adaption, and it isnt limited to 1 type of adapt)
also, how does sukuna have a better eyes than someone with literally Six eyes? he understand the thing mid fight but gojo couldnt?

I am not getting into the other bit because I have argued about that point enough for one life time

cool

 

[Giannysmag]

lets fix that shall we?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

for some reason the 1000 years old clan have no clue about how mahoraga adaption work up until a 1000 years sealed dude find out?

Tell me without telling me you haven't read JJK properly

"Thousands years old clan who has no knowledge of Mahoraga adaptation"
While Manga : no one in the history tamed Mahoraga

Sure buddy

 

[eibwen]

Tell me without telling me you haven't read JJK properly

"Thousands years old clan who has no knowledge of Mahoraga adaptation"
While Manga : no one in the history tamed Mahoraga

Sure buddy

ah yes, the nitpicking that one line from 10 different things I pointed out for the sake of winning the arguement (already replied this beforehand)

doesnt mean we dont have experience about it? confirmed information before sukuna are its take times, it can adapt to either neutralize or uneffected by stuff (tbh this on its own should be a hint, its an progressive adaption, and it isnt limited to 1 type of adapt)
also, how does sukuna have a better eyes than someone with literally Six eyes? he understand the thing mid fight but gojo couldnt?

what a great guy to have conversation with

 

[Sir_sun_man]

doesnt mean we dont have experience about it? confirmed information before sukuna are its take times, it can adapt to either neutralize or uneffected by stuff (tbh this on its own should be a hint, its an progressive adaption, and it isnt limited to 1 type of adapt)
also, how does sukuna have a better eyes than someone with literally Six eyes? he understand the thing mid fight but gojo couldnt?

my man, they all died... all of them, like the only 6 eyes user (who are rare as is) who we know faced a 10 shadows user died to mahoraga along side the 10 shadows user.

So yeah no one really has any expirence on mahoraga since everyone who faced him promptly died.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

ah yes, the nitpicking that one line from 10 different things I pointed out for the sake of winning the arguement (already replied this beforehand)

what a great guy to have conversation with

Manga:
"previous clan and others who were within Ritual died"

"Sukuna fights and negs Mahoraga in Shibuya"
"Yuji had information on how much they know from Shibuya"
"sukuna used Yorozu has a testing drive and learnt something "
"SUKUNA was directly linked to Mahoraga while Gojo didn't to understand shit"

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Call me basic but Pain's Assault>>>>

Basic, but what's bad about being basic

 

[SuperStar]

Call me basic but Pain's Assault>>>>

Calling a 10/10 arc basic is crazy.

 

[Giannysmag]

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Looks great

 

[Sir_sun_man]

Calling a 10/10 arc basic is crazy.

10/10 is a reach but a solid 9 for sure

 

[Arkenis]

but just because Gojo lost in chapter 236,

Its not because he lost really, at least not most felt that, its more how he lost.

 

[Giannysmag]

 

[JnSteHar002]

 

[M3X_2.0]

JJK but it’s actually good

 

[Sakamaki_Fuji]

Kashimo doesnt have rct bruh https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Hajime_Kashimo#cite_note-JJK238-6

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Kashimo doesnt have rct bruh https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Hajime_Kashimo#cite_note-JJK238-6

Spoiler

 

[JnSteHar002]

 

[Sakamaki_Fuji]

Spoiler

he just used his Curse Technique to mold and work as his hand. Just like Fuegoleon from Black Clover

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

he just used his Curse Technique to mold and work as his hand. Just like Fuegoleon from Black Clover

Source:

Extraordinary Claims needs extraordinary evidence. Nothing states he used his CT which literally destroys his body can reform his body somehow. Also does Fuegoleon has statement for her body getting destroyed after she releases her magic?

 

[Sakamaki_Fuji]

Source:

Extraordinary Claims needs extraordinary evidence. Nothing states he used his CT which literally destroys his body can reform his body somehow. Also does Fuegoleon has statement for her body getting destroyed after she releases her magic?

He can shapeshift his mouth into a cannon but fixing a cut is too much?

 

[Arkenis]

Extraordinary Claims needs extraordinary evidence. Nothing states he used his CT which literally destroys his body can reform his body somehow. Also does Fuegoleon has statement for her body getting destroyed after she releases her magic?

It really just looks like Kashimo can reconstruct his body via the ct. It already reconstructed his body into a electricity based one that mimics electrical phenomena. Saying this is rct seems a bit head canon.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

He can shapeshift his mouth into a cannon but fixing a cut is too much?

Shape shifting = Regeneration?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

It really just looks like Kashimo can reconstruct his body via the ct. It already reconstructed his body into a electricity based one that mimics electrical phenomena. Saying this is rct seems a bit head canon.

Viz f**cking it up translation as usual. Real headcanon will be saying he can keep using his transformation to regenerate his lost limbs with no proof to back it up.

 

[Arkenis]

Viz f**cking it up translation as usual. Real headcanon will be saying he can keep using his transformation to regenerate his lost limbs with no proof to back it up.

Thats trans says the same thing... "transforms", reconstruct are the same thing in context. It allows him to replicate electrical things like generating new electricity to form his arm. Also where's the common rct steam when he gets his arm cut?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Thats trans says the same thing... "transforms", reconstruct are the same thing in context. It allows him to replicate electrical things like generating new electricity to form his arm. Also where's the common rct steam when he gets his arm cut?

Spoiler

The electricity was surrounding his hand, so we can't see the steam? May be that was the reason. His whole body is already drawn with the electric discharge.

It wasn't proven that it was definitely his RCT & no proof supports it being his CT either.

Applying Occam's razor to this situation, it suggests that the simplest explanation is usually the best. In this case, since there is no explicit mention or evidence of regeneration associated with the Kashimo's transformation abilities, it is more straightforward to assume that the regeneration is not part of the equation. Instead, the destruction caused by his CT itself indicates that it doesn't possess any regenerative properties. Additionally, the transformation abilities being electricity based aligns with the simpler explanation rather than assuming they also include regeneration. Therefore, based on Occam's razor, it's simpler and more reasonable to conclude that the Kashimo's abilities are not associated with regeneration but rather with the destruction caused by his CT. Only other Regeneration based ability in the series is RCT.

By the way, if Gege somehow releases a databook or fanbook stating that it was due to his CT, not because of his RCT, I don't have a problem conceding. But for now, both sides only have assumptions. Mine is just a simple interpretation that his CT lacks Regeneration, while assuming his CT has regeneration properties is just a big interpretation. So, by Occam's razor, mine is more valid than others.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

@Sir_sun_man @Giannysmag

 

[Arkenis]

Spoiler

The electricity was surrounding his hand, so we can't see the steam. His whole body is already drawn with the electric discharge.

It wasn't proven that it was definitely his RCT & no proof supports it being his CT either.


Only other Regeneration based ability in the series is RCT.

The thing is arguing RCT as the simplest explanation doesn't work here. You're essentially arguing he knew something that requires a high degree of curse energy understanding in verse, which you have no basis for. Meanwhile I just think the ct allows for control over electricity and generating more electricity. He just made a new electricity arm.

Just read the trans you sent, the ct transformed his body, allowing him to recreate any phenomena that can be created by electricity. Aka he can generate new electricity and regrow parts of his body.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

The thing is arguing RCT as the simplest explanation doesn't work here. You're essentially arguing he knew something that requires a high degree of curse energy understanding in verse, which you have no basis for.

Could you please stop this already?

Spoiler

We have this guy with RCT without any statement or indication that he has enough understanding of CE.

Not to mention, Shoko also has RCT with nothing to back up her high level CE understanding. I've already pointed out that Kashimo has a high level of CE understanding when he can separate CE changes and create techniques like Electric Discharge. Additionally, you can't prove that Shoko or this guy has a better understanding of CE than Kashimo, especially considering Kashimo has lived longer than them, fought countless battles, and is implied to be the strongest of his era, the same era as Ryu.

Meanwhile I just think the ct allows for control over electricity and generating more electricity.

His body falls apart canonically not help him Regenerate

He just made a new electricity arm.

Spoiler

The scan doesn't show an electric arm, that finger clearly depicts how human fingers look. Look at how his finger and the electricity surrounding it are clearly distinguished. If you are correct, then the whole finger should have just been electricity based, with no flesh visible.

Just read the trans you sent, the ct transformed his body, allowing him to recreate any phenomena that can be created by electricity. Aka he can generate new electricity and regrow parts of his body.

phenomenon

1. something that exists and can be seen, felt, tasted, etc., especially…

dictionary.cambridge.org

His phenomenons are EMW and Sound waves nothing related to Regeneration of body.

 

[Arkenis]

We have this guy with RCT without any statement or indication that he has enough understanding of CE.

Just because we don't have info about him doesn't dismiss his understanding.

Not to mention, Shoko also has RCT with nothing to back up her high level CE understanding. I've already pointed out that Kashimo has a high level of CE understanding when he can separate CE changes and create techniques like Electric Discharge. Additionally, you can't prove that Shoko or this guy has a better understanding of CE than Kashimo, especially considering Kashimo has lived longer than them, fought countless battles, and is implied to be the strongest of his era, the same era as Ryu.

Shoko is one of the few in her generation who can do rct... even before Gojo, the greatest sorcerer of his time. Why you tryna downplay her ce understanding? She even tried explaining it to Gojo and he couldn't get it until he was put near death lmao. Living longer isn't always an indicator one has more understanding, the new generation proves this, blatantly. Fighting countless battles doesn't mean one will understand ce better, or else explain Yuji, Yuta, Gojo, Higruma. All talented sorcerers with little battle experience when they obtained rct.

His body falls apart canonically not help him Regenerate

You're missing the point if that's what you took from this lmao.

The scan doesn't show an electric arm, that finger clearly depicts how human fingers look. Look at how his finger and the electricity surrounding it are clearly distinguished. If you are correct, then the whole finger should have just been electricity based, with no flesh visible.

Its fiction, I can show you a character made of light and their finger still looks like a finger just glowing.

His phenomenons are EMW and Sound waves nothing related to Regeneration of body.

It says any phenomena, electricity generation is very much a phenomena lmao of electricity, the same way he can produce EMW, he can produce more electricity.

 

[Sir_sun_man]

@Sir_sun_man @Giannysmag

seen it

 

[Sir_sun_man]

oh btw here is the guy who makes a good chunk of all the JJk Ai shit posts (the OG Nuh Uh man)

https://www.tiktok.com/@le.engin

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Just because we don't have info about him doesn't dismiss his understanding.

So, you're saying you're okay with trusting some random character who hasn't done anything or has any statement to prove good understanding of CE, but you're not willing to believe that a guy with actual feats?

Arguments from incredulity that's all I have to you to for this.

Shoko is one of the few in her generation who can do rct... even before Gojo, the greatest sorcerer of his time. Why you tryna downplay her ce understanding? She even tried explaining it to Gojo and he couldn't get it until he was put near death lmao. Living longer isn't always an indicator one has more understanding, the new generation proves this, blatantly. Fighting countless battles doesn't mean one will understand ce better, or else explain Yuji, Yuta, Gojo, Higruma. All talented sorcerers with little battle experience when they obtained rct.

Spoiler

I can ask you the same why you are trying to downplay Kashimo's understanding of CE. Kashimo also has understanding of how RCT & CE works and he can also create poison with sea water and control of his CE. It's not naturally occurring so don't bring up it happened on its own when manga states he was doing it manually. He can also create lightning discharge with CE in his staff. If you still believe he lacks good understanding of CE then I can't help you. Your arguments will be all based on incredulity.

Also, stop nitpicking my replies, and if you want to refute, do it properly. You are intentionally skipping important parts of my replies and selecting just words, making them out of context. I didn't just say he has a better understanding because of battle experience. I clearly pointed out his skills in the separation of positive and negative charges to create electric discharge, which is narratively explained as a skill. We literally have direct statements and feats that outweigh whatever Shoko has done in her whole life (Not saying Shoko doesn't have good understanding of CE but you are just fixated on shit like Kashimo doesn't have CE understanding because you just don't want to believe it). So, if you want to refute, at least address the full point.

Its fiction, I can show you a character made of light and their finger still looks like a finger just glowing.

"It's fiction"
This ain't gonna cut it when my scan shows shading similar to normal skin same as how Hakari Regenerated his arm during Uraume fight indicating that was his skin itself not Electricity.

It says any phenomena, electricity generation is very much a phenomena lmao of electricity, the same way he can produce EMW, he can produce more electricity.

Producing electricity ≠ Producing body parts
There is no logical phenomenon of electricity stated to have property of producing body parts

 

[Sir_sun_man]

oh btw le.engine did move to youtube and he has a new vid out

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

oh btw le.engine did move to youtube and he has a new vid out

There was another video where Hakari scams Toji while Sukuna gives gun to Toji so that he can kill Yuji

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

@Sir_sun_man I thought this guy is smokin' something but thread is goated.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]