Geto's Profile Update; Jujutsu Kaisen

[EldemadeDityjon]

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As you can see, the current profile of Geto is quite lacking. Therefore, I have added scans and provided more explanations for his abilities.

Spoiler: Abilities

• Cursed Energy Manipulation (Advanced Sorcerer: Grade 1 Sorcerer [1])
• Martial Arts, Weapon Mastery & Acrobatics (Suguru's hand-to-hand combat skills are formidable, as he efficiently incapacitates armed curse users with a combination of punches, palm strikes, and hard chops, capable of causing severe injury.[2] Even skilled fighters like Panda are outmatched by Suguru's prowess in close-quarters combat.[3] Suguru can defend against both Yuta's sword strikes and Rika's physical attacks simultaneously, while also attacking, utilizing Playful Cloud with masterful skill in close combat. He can also perform acrobatics[4])
• Absorption & Summoning (Cursed Spirit Manipulation involves absorbing conquered cursed spirits into a black sphere instead of exorcising them. Users can also absorb curses from others who control them by killing the master.[3] Oral consumption of the curse's orb grants complete dominance, enabling users to summon the spirits at will. Limited Soul Absorption; Kenjaku used the same technique to absorb Mahito. It was stated that he is capable of absorbing Tengen's soul because he is currently an evolved soul, which is closer to a cursed spirit.)
• Bodily Weaponry (Suguru employs a formidable curse resembling a giant man-eating hookworm with sharp teeth and a large innard capable of capturing or swallowing other curses[6])
• Sealing, Space-Time Manipulation & Pocket Reality Manipulation (He absorbed a cursed spirit that can trap its targets within its barriers. Time flows differently inside the barriers than outside: 30 minutes inside is equivalent to 2 days outside. The cursed spirit creates a looping environment inside the barriers to keep the target sealed off[7])
• Flight (Suguru possesses a flying curse resembling an aquatic stingray, capable of levitation and with sufficient size to support him and one other person[8])
• Clairvoyance (Surveillance curses possess multiple eyes, each capable of observing a large area[8])
• Domain Expansion (Type 1), Law Manipulation & Weapon Creation (Kuchisake-Onna, an Imaginary Vengeful Spirit from Japanese yokai legend, possesses the ability to ensnare her targets within a Innate Domain, compelling them to adhere to a binding vow of non-violence until they answer her question. If the answer displeases her, she can conjure scissors around the target, poised to sever limbs upon the domain's dissolution[1])
• Cursed Energy Manipulation (Advanced Sorcerer: Special Grade Sorcerer[9])
• Curse Manipulation & Pain Manipulation (Injuries with cursed energy cause people to be automatically cursed, this creates severe consequences for normal beings, such as extreme pain, weakening of the body, becoming ill, and eventually death. Anyone who is not a sorcerer has 0 tolerance to cursed energy[10])
• Limited Animal Manipulation (Can control numerous fish shaped curses[9])
• Light Manipulation (Suguru possesses a cursed spirit that can fire destructive pillars of light down onto a target by pointing its index and middle fingers on either hand upwards[9])
• Absorption (Biological; Suguru possesses a group of grade 3 or lower cursed spirits that work together to suck a person's flesh apart[3])
• Flight (Suguru possesses a huge, white pelican-like curse with four feathery wings. It is used by Suguru to transport himself and other people through the air, either by riding it or having it hold them in its mouth[3])
• Duplication & Bodily Weaponry (Suguru possesses a centipede-like cursed spirit. They seem to have the ability to duplicate themselves and also appear to possess bodily weaponry[4]
• Inventory Curse: Dimensional Storage(The Inventory Curse is capable of storing objects within itself such as weapons, other curses, and people)
  • Limited Insect Manipulation and Summoning (Via Flyheads[1])
  • Cursed Tools: Limited Cursed Energy Manipulation (Cursed Tools are capable of attacking and killing cursed spirits who are the manifested forms of images, emotions, and information stemming from collective human awareness and perceptions related to various phenomena)
    • Playful Cloud: Damage Boost (Playful Cloud's power varies based on the user[11])
    • Soul Split Katana: Soul Manipulation & Durability Negation (The Soul Split Katana bypasses the toughness of substances to attack the soul, even being done to inanimate objects[12])
    • Chain of a Thousand Miles: Limited Size Manipulation (The Chain of a Thousand Miles can keep extending so long as the other end isn't seen[13])
• Limited Power Absorption , Fusionism & Energy Projection (Maximum: Uzumaki is a technique that merges multiple cursed spirits possessed by the user into a singular entity, unleashing a powerful blast of highly concentrated cursed energy at the target. Additionally, when curses of semi-grade 1 or higher are incorporated into Uzumaki, their respective cursed techniques are extracted and retained by the user for manipulation[14])

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[Giannysmag]

Profile looks good

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

Seems fine to me

 

[Arkenis]

It's not a simple domain and just put domain instead.

• Limited Power Nullification, Law Manipulation & Weapon Creation (Kuchisake-Onna, an Imaginary Vengeful Spirit from Japanese yokai legend, possesses the ability to ensnare her targets within a Simple Domain, compelling them to adhere to a binding vow of non-violence until they answer her question. If the answer displeases her, she can conjure scissors around the target, poised to sever limbs upon the domain's dissolution[1])

Remove soul manip. He's not manipulating their soul.

• Limited Soul Manipulation, Absorption & Summoning (Cursed Spirit Manipulation involves absorbing conquered cursed spirits into a black sphere instead of exorcising them. Users can also absorb curses from others who control them by killing the master.[3] Oral consumption of the curse's orb grants complete dominance, enabling users to summon the spirits at will. Kenjaku used same technique to absorb Mahito[5])

Remove these, Gojo sealed or destroyed both iirc.

• Soul Split Katana: Soul Manipulation & Durability Negation (The Soul Split Katana bypasses the toughness of substances to attack the soul, even being done to inanimate objects[12])
• Chain of a Thousand Miles: Limited Size Manipulation (The Chain of a Thousand Miles can keep extending so long as the other end isn't seen[13])

 

[Sonoftanavast9]

cursed spirit creates a looping environment inside the barriers to keep the target sealed off[7])

The scan for this isn't working

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

Remove these, Gojo sealed or destroyed both iirc.

• Soul Split Katana: Soul Manipulation & Durability Negation (The Soul Split Katana bypasses the toughness of substances to attack the soul, even being done to inanimate objects[12])
• Chain of a Thousand Miles: Limited Size Manipulation (The Chain of a Thousand Miles can keep extending so long as the other end isn't seen[13])

Pretty sure Gojo only destroyed the inverted spear of heaven

 

[Arkenis]

Pretty sure Gojo only destroyed the inverted spear of heaven

Oh yeah. But regardless that seems inaccurate to include those on page when we don't know if they're still in the curse. Given they were cursed tools its likely they were given to the Zenin's. Also Getou didn't use them, something like the soul katana would've been a good advantage for him against Yuta.

 

[SunDaGamer]

Remove these, Gojo sealed or destroyed both iirc.

• Soul Split Katana: Soul Manipulation & Durability Negation (The Soul Split Katana bypasses the toughness of substances to attack the soul, even being done to inanimate objects[12])

Geto can't actually use the dura neg of the Split Soul Katana because he doesn't have senses like Toji or Maki

 

[Arkenis]

Geto can't actually use the dura neg of the Split Soul Katana because he doesn't have senses like Toji or Maki

Oh right. Even more reason it should be removed

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

It's not a simple domain and just put domain instead.

• Limited Power Nullification, Law Manipulation & Weapon Creation (Kuchisake-Onna, an Imaginary Vengeful Spirit from Japanese yokai legend, possesses the ability to ensnare her targets within a Simple Domain, compelling them to adhere to a binding vow of non-violence until they answer her question. If the answer displeases her, she can conjure scissors around the target, poised to sever limbs upon the domain's dissolution[1])

Actually never mind. I will change into DE type 1.

Remove soul manip. He's not manipulating their soul.

• Limited Soul Manipulation, Absorption & Summoning (Cursed Spirit Manipulation involves absorbing conquered cursed spirits into a black sphere instead of exorcising them. Users can also absorb curses from others who control them by killing the master.[3] Oral consumption of the curse's orb grants complete dominance, enabling users to summon the spirits at will. Kenjaku used same technique to absorb Mahito[5])

outright consuming souls to gain power, among other applications.

Soul manipulation page literally states this. Mahito's power is tied to his souls as we already know. Absorption is still counts as soul manipulation. I also listed as limited specifically for curses..

Remove these, Gojo sealed or destroyed both iirc.

• Soul Split Katana: Soul Manipulation & Durability Negation (The Soul Split Katana bypasses the toughness of substances to attack the soul, even being done to inanimate objects[12])

Geto can't actually use the dura neg of the Split Soul Katana because he doesn't have senses like Toji or Maki

Yeah I don't have problem with removing SSK.

• Chain of a Thousand Miles: Limited Size Manipulation (The Chain of a Thousand Miles can keep extending so long as the other end isn't seen[13])

Right after the fight Geto Absorbed Toji's Spirit. Whatever inside of it was obtained by Geto like PC.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

The scan for this isn't working

Corrected it now it's working.

 

[Guacamolefletcher]

• Martial Arts, Weapon Mastery & Acrobatics (Suguru's hand-to-hand combat skills are formidable, as he efficiently incapacitates armed curse users with a combination of punches, palm strikes, and hard chops, capable of causing severe injury.[2] Even skilled fighters like Panda are outmatched by Suguru's prowess in close-quarters combat.[3] Suguru can defend against both Yuta's sword strikes and Rika's physical attacks simultaneously, while also attacking, utilizing Playful Cloud with masterful skill in close combat. He can also perform acrobatics[4])

ok like, I'm NGL, you're gonna need to drop the real context for a lot of these acans, not a cropped panel.

Also, it says "several curses," might be too little

Also the scaling in and of itself is questionable, and is probably gonna have to change

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

ok like, I'm NGL, you're gonna need to drop the real context for a lot of these acans, not a cropped panel.

Manga panels aren't cropped. You should check the referenced chapters. Pages are like that only.

 

[Arkenis]

Soul manipulation page literally states this. Mahito's power is tied to his souls as we already know. Absorption is still counts as soul manipulation. I also listed as limited specifically for curses..

Yeah but he's not manipulating any souls here? He's manipulating cursed spirits. I don't get why Mahito matters, he didn't do anything to Mahito's soul.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Yeah but he's not manipulating any souls here? He's manipulating cursed spirits.

To defeat Mahito, one needs to directly interact or manipulate his soul. Kenjaku used Curse Manipulation to absorb him, so his soul was also absorbed by Kenjaku using the same technique Geto uses. Kenjaku later extracted Mahito's power, so his soul is gone. Absorption also falls under Soul Manipulation if the soul is absorbed. No extra feats are required.

I don't get why Mahito matters, he didn't do anything to Mahito's soul.

To prove Curse Manipulation Geto uses can absorb souls alongwith physical/material body of the curses.

 

[Arkenis]

To defeat Mahito, one needs to directly interact or manipulate his soul. Kenjaku used Curse Manipulation to absorb him, so his soul was also absorbed by Kenjaku using the same technique Geto uses. Kenjaku later extracted Mahito's power, so his soul is gone. Absorption also falls under Soul Manipulation if the soul is absorbed. No extra feats are required.

No? Kenjaku didn't defeat anything. And you don't need to interact with the soul or manip it to defeat him either. And just because he absorbed Mahito does not mean he also absorbed his soul.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

No? Kenjaku didn't defeat anything.

He doesn't need to defeat anything. The point is just absorption: transmutation, creating a new soul, and destruction of the souls. There are different forms of soul manipulation. You don't need every feature.

And you don't need to interact with the soul or manip it to defeat him either.

Except draining his CE narratively there is no other way of defeating Mahito. Unless someone directly interacts with his soul he won't get a single damage.

And just because he absorbed Mahito does not mean he also absorbed his soul.

It's illogical to assume Kenjaku only absorbed the physical body of Mahito, and his soul is intact, which would go against the narrative, as nothing in the series can damage Mahito without soul manipulation. Also, we do see Mahito struggling against curse manipulation, and Kenjaku extracting the ability. If his soul was not absorbed he wouldn't be struggling against Curse Manipulation.

 

[Arkenis]

It's illogical to assume Kenjaku only absorbed the physical body of Mahito, and his soul is intact, which would go against the narrative, as nothing in the series can damage Mahito without soul manipulation. Also, we do see Mahito struggling against curse manipulation, and Kenjaku extracting the ability. If his soul was not absorbed he wouldn't be struggling against Curse Manipulation.

No its not illogical since we are never told csm also absorbs the soul of the cursed spirits. That narrative has nothing to do with him getting his soul absorbed here, that doesn't even matter.

This is like saying all absorption users should get soul manip cause the soul and body are together. Or like saying since you absorbed someone, you also absorbed their atoms therefore matter manip. I don't know how you decided on this when only very few have ever shown soul manip and Geto nor Kenjaku ever mention absorption of souls.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

No its not illogical since we are never told csm also absorbs the soul of the cursed spirits. That narrative has nothing to do with him getting his soul absorbed here, that doesn't even matter.

This is like saying all absorption users should get soul manip cause the soul and body are together. Or like saying since you absorbed someone, you also absorbed their atoms therefore matter manip. I don't know how you decided on this when only very few have ever shown soul manip and Geto nor Kenjaku ever mention absorption of souls.

This is you ignoring the context what I explained to you.

• I said it's limited to absorbing Curses along with their souls.
• Being a few users doesn't mean Geto and Kenjaku shouldn't have it. Their use is different from others, but that doesn't mean it disproves them having Soul Manipulation based on Absorption.
• Most importantly, I pointed out that you can't damage or kill Mahito without damaging his soul. Show me Mahito still being alive after the Shibuya Incident. If what you are saying is true and Kenjaku only absorbed his outer body instead of his soul, he should be alive, as the narrative states he can't die as long as his soul is unharmed.
• Also, I never claimed it's default for absorption to absorb souls. I gave a specific explanation for Mahito alone. Besides, it's been clearly mentioned and shown that Kenjaku absorbed Tengen, who exists purely as an evolved soul without a physical body, with Geto's CT.

 

[Arkenis]

• Most importantly, I pointed out that you can't damage or kill Mahito without damaging his soul. Show me Mahito still being alive after the Shibuya Incident. If what you are saying is true and Kenjaku only absorbed his outer body instead of his soul, he should be alive, as the narrative states he can't die as long as his soul is unharmed.
• Also I never claimed it's default Absorption Absorbing souls. It's been clearly mentioned and shown that Kenjaku Absorbed Tengen who exist purely we a evolved soul without a physical body with Geto's CT

Why does the Mahito thing matter? You are forcing soul absorption due to Mahito's own ability but it doesn't make sense. Mahito can still die without you damaging his soul. His whole thing is about his cursed tech manipulating his soul, if he can't sustain his soul with his ct then he can die, so him losing complete ct use will make him die.
And no we never see Kenjaku absorb Tengen's soul, you are making stuff up. Tengen is still alive technically, they even talk in the cave to Kenjaku.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Why does the Mahito thing matter? You are forcing soul absorption due to Mahito's own ability but it doesn't make sense. Mahito can still die without you damaging his soul. His whole thing is about his cursed tech manipulating his soul, if he can't sustain his soul with his ct then he can die, so him losing complete ct use will make him die.

Mahito can only die by damaging his soul, like Yuji, or by removing all of his Cursed Energy. Nowhere in the series was it mentioned that he gets zero damage because of his Cursed Technique.

And no we never see Kenjaku absorb Tengen's soul, you are making stuff up.

The argument doesn't work in your favor. Tengen specifically states that Kenjaku currently can absorb him because of Tengen's evolved soul state. Whether he absorbs Tengen offscreen or onscreen shouldn't matter.

This also fall under Argument from Ignorance, where you assumes that because something wasn't explicitly shown onscreen, it didn't happen or isn't valid within the narrative.

Tengen is still alive technically, they even talk in the cave to Kenjaku.

Absorbing souls = destroying the soul itself? Where did you get this? Also, how does not destroying Tengen's soul disapprove of the absorption feat? You are arguing with something that doesn't exist in the soul manipulation explanation page. Additionally, Tengen being alive and talking to Kenjaku further proves Kenjaku's soul absorption. Tengen's soul would have passed away like Gojo's if only the physical body is absorbed by Curse Manipulation. I will repeat it: absorption ≠ destruction, so stop asking why someone is alive despite being absorbed. His technique works by absorbing others and controlling them.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Looks good, The stuff that i was disagreeing with have already been removed. I agree.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

Whether he absorbs Tengen offscreen or onscreen shouldn't matter.

It does.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

What's the difference between him absorbing souls or just CE?

We only see him use it on cursed spirits that are made from CE.

 

[JnSteHar002]

Was Mahito so weakened after his final fight w/Yuji in Shibuya that he had no access to IT at the time he got absorbed by Kenjaku?

 

[Arkenis]

Was Mahito so weakened after his final fight w/Yuji in Shibuya that he had no access to IT at the time he got absorbed by Kenjaku?

Thats how it seems. Got hit by Black Flash and lost his form. Didn't try anything after that either, he was gonna rely on trans humans but had none.

 

[JnSteHar002]

Thats how it seems. Got hit by Black Flash and lost his form. Didn't try anything after that either, he was gonna rely on trans humans but had none.

If that's the case, Mahito would've probably lacked the ability to manipulate/protect his own soul. Therefore, Kenjaku wouldn't need to have soul manipulation to absorb Mahito and use him for his Uzumaki, at least at that time.

I do wonder if Kenjaku kept Mahito around and he summoned him like Geto did w/his curses, could Mahito, at his full power, be able to override CM control over him.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Was Mahito so weakened after his final fight w/Yuji in Shibuya that he had no access to IT at the time he got absorbed by Kenjaku?

If that's the case, Mahito would've probably lacked the ability to manipulate/protect his own soul. Therefore, Kenjaku wouldn't need to have soul manipulation to absorb Mahito and use him for his Uzumaki, at least at that time.

I do wonder if Kenjaku kept Mahito around and he summoned him like Geto did w/his curses, could Mahito, at his full power, be able to override CM control over him.

Fanbook literally states that Mahito can be controlled with Curse Manipulation once absorbed. Taming him would be a little harder, that's all. In other words, Curse Manipulation does absorb him and take over his soul as well. There is no statement for Mahito's soul overriding Geto's/Kenjaku CM.

Tengen specifically states that Kenjaku currently can absorb him because of Tengen's evolved soul state.

I also posted scans for Tengen. This is clear cut statement we have for CM absorbing Souls of the Cursed Spirits.

 

[Spectra_Schiffer]

I agree, it's pretty good.

Daddy Geto >∞ Yuta and comp new gen

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looks alright to me from a glance.

 

[That_moron2]

Add scans here

Kilometers with a curses (He has a curse that causes the sensation of an earthquake with city level range)

And add a range rating for Chain of A Thousand Miles (Taking the name literally it would be 1609.34 km (Thousands of Kilometers)

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Add scans here

And add a range rating for Chain of A Thousand Miles (Taking the name literally it would be 1609.34 km (Thousands of Kilometers)

Yeah sure thanks

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Bump

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

Yeah sure thanks

Isn't that a nominal fallacy?

 

[Giannysmag]

Add scans here

And add a range rating for Chain of A Thousand Miles (Taking the name literally it would be 1609.34 km (Thousands of Kilometers)

Chain of a thousend miles actually extends infinitely as long as it's end isn't shown

(from chap 75)

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

Chain of a thousend miles actually extends infinitely as long as it's end isn't shown

(from chap 75)

This will cause a lot problems in the future.

 

[That_moron2]

Chain of a thousend miles actually extends infinitely as long as it's end isn't shown

(from chap 75)

Isn’t universal range?

 

[Arkenis]

Just put infinite with Chains. Not like we ever seen it done nor would it be advantageous to try it

 

[That_moron2]

Just put infinite with Chains. Not like we ever seen it done nor would it be advantageous to try it

That’s not a range rating.

 

[Giannysmag]

This will cause a lot problems in the future.

High 3-A Toji when?

Isn’t universal range?

Probably Up to High Universal