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Pretty sure nothing stops her from doing the Death Ritual if she does that
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Boa Hancock vs Makima
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Zabazab
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The enhanced senses don't mention higher reactions/perceptions, at all.
She can attack remotely with Hybrids, Zombies, PS Agents, and the Death Ritual.
Aki's Contract functions that way, yes.
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I don't agree with Boa being able to attack Makima within Cosmo's mental space as Cosmo conversed with Santa in a short timeframe explaining that how her Mind hax would have an effect on her. Boa should be completely stationary outside Cosmo's mental space conversing back with Cosmo
Lets say she even ignores the Conversation with her opponent at hand that being Cosmo or just simply subconsciously attacks Makima without thought just pure instinct, using the Future Devil she will be able to foresee her petrification (Assuming Boa will use Arrows as none of her other petrification techniques will work) and I am obligated to believe if it does bypass Makimas Devil Contracts she will by all means dodge them, this can also be supported by her impressive reaction speeds. Regardless once Cosmo is finished explaining Boa will be forced to retain everything in the universe and will only be able to think about Halloween just simply incapacitating Boa
If anything Makima also has her array of Devil abilities such as Dollification to have a Doll or Santa Claus touch Boa and transmute her into a doll amongst other Devil abilities in her arsenal
Lets say she even ignores the Conversation with her opponent at hand that being Cosmo or just simply subconsciously attacks Makima without thought just pure instinct, using the Future Devil she will be able to foresee her petrification (Assuming Boa will use Arrows as none of her other petrification techniques will work) and I am obligated to believe if it does bypass Makimas Devil Contracts she will by all means dodge them, this can also be supported by her impressive reaction speeds. Regardless once Cosmo is finished explaining Boa will be forced to retain everything in the universe and will only be able to think about Halloween just simply incapacitating Boa
If anything Makima also has her array of Devil abilities such as Dollification to have a Doll or Santa Claus touch Boa and transmute her into a doll amongst other Devil abilities in her arsenal
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Awareness is reaction
So she's seeing multiple futures... Proof?
Boa's body would move on it's own with observation haki... It's a 6th sense
Dodging aoe beam/arrows in speed equal is useless even if she has FTL reaction speeds, her body won't be fast enough
if it comes down to it boa would be able to negate herself out of the mental teleportation or just resist it completely to begin with
You guys are just spamming different types of abilities acting like makima will use all these types and know perfectly which types to use all in just one single moment... Bro
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Because that's how she fights
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Not use all in a single moment perfectly just because... She has those abilities yes...
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Heightened awareness is not a higher speed. She's just aware of everything around her. Since Makima has far higher reaction speed, she'll be able to brainblast Boa before she can protect herself with Haki.
Neither you nor I said anything about that. She just continually sees the true future overlapped with her own vision.
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She combines all of her abilities to attack the gun devil
Zabazab
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This scene was all in a single moment.
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what? Danger sense and precog still protects
Its Enhanced awareness
or just enhanced senses by default which is
Meaning she's always saying the future even tho she can only see seconds into the future... That doesn't make sense unless she sees multiple futures at the same time...
Where is the proof she is continuously seeing the future?
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Mmm, so basically she knows everything about boa and will use every ability at the same time to defeat her...
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This doesn't matter when Makima also has precog and her reaction speed is like 10 times higher than Boa's. Boa cannot act fast enough to protect herself.
It's still not higher speed.
She is continually seeing several seconds into the future overlapped with her own vision. Idk what has you confused.
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Luffy blitzed doffy's reactions and perception and still used buso... And her seeing the future doesn't stop boa using haki... Like what?
It is...
By you saying she's continually seeing the future which you have no proof for...
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Why would makima need to know everything about boa? She attacked the gun Devil with all of her abilities combined even tho she didn't know everything about him because That's how she fights
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and all of those she used at the same time, what abilities were they?
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If Boa's body can move and react to attacks from Makima even after being incapacitated should place Makima at an advantage since Boa is using Observation haki she would just be mindlessly dodging attacks, which is an open door for the Doll devil contract, the Hell Devil's BFR, The Ghost Devil to hold her in place (I don't believe Boa can interact with things which are intangible) and the Stone Devil among other useful Devil contracts she will use to her advantage against Boa during this fight and which will lead Boa to her defeat
That depends on the range of the arrow, with precognition its likely she will foresee the range and effects of the bow and use Hench men and Devil's she possess to take some heat off her
How is Boa resisting an infinite amount of information? better yet negating herself out the mental space
Makima will use her abilities accordingly in battle to gain the upperhand in battle depending on her opponent, we see this gesture in the Control Devil arc against Pochita
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no, since she can also fight makima and turn her to stone before all of that
Ohh and it petrifies you fully as well, the henchmen? Might as will give her the whole world then... If that's the case then boa can use her female warriors with haki, the devils will get stoned as well
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Considering not a single One Piece supporter was called until like yesterday, there's no point in adding this. Debate should definitely continue.
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Aight
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I mean grace still ended, so it doesn't really matter I think
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It does.
In the page for versus threads in the wiki, it states that: "The winner will be determined by the side having better constructive arguments." If one side doesn't even have arguments because the supporters weren't there, then how is that constructive debate?
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Zabazab
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Ok? They're not Boa.
I'm saying that her having precog means Boa's precog is less of an advantage.
Just saying that it is doesn't make it true. It's not on Boa's page nor on the Haki page that obs Haki users have higher reactions and perceptions. Makima's reactions are like 10x higher than Boa's.
The Contract allows the user to see several seconds into the future, overlapped with their own vision, continuously in combat.
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they have the same lvl of observation haki... Doesn't need to be boa, observation haki is still danger sense and precog so she'll just use haki beforehand.
But doesn't stop boa from using haki, and that's only in certain instances since she doesn't automatically use it
and you saying it isn't, doesn't make it not true
It isn't just range... You're limiting the ability
So it isn't continuously and they have to manually active the future sight ability
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I doubt the attack will reach makima if she can forsee it, I argue Makima will use her hench men to bring her to safety or utilize her levitation to her advantageno, since she can also fight makima and turn her to stone before all of that
Ohh and it petrifies you fully as well, the henchmen? Might as will give her the whole world then... If that's the case then boa can use her female warriors, the devils will get stoned as well
Boa's chances of winning is very low in this state due to reasons I listed previously
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the Hench men won't be fast enough and isn't usable and makima won't be fast enough...
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Why wouldn't Makima be fast enough to evade an attack she already foresaw and why would the henchmen better yet Makima not be able to evade an attack they saw before hand?
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There is also still the argument of Makima using princi to teleport her away allowing her to set up her death ritual on boa which at that point ends the fight
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1. She would need a reason to see the future 2. If she sees the future, sees herself getting stoned... Her body trying to move out of the away from an aoe attack is not happening because her body won't be fast enough still
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No, you need to prove that obs Haki provides higher reaction speeds, and then add that to Boa's page or the Haki page. Neither suggest that it does so.
And danger-sense/precog isn't helpful when you can't react in time. Makima's brainblast glare would activate 10x faster than Boa's own speed.
No.
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also can't boa just knock her out with Conquerors Haki? Especially since she isn't human and a devil, it could possibly effect her even more
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explain to me how I would add reaction speed amp when enhanced senses are in the haki page already
So the devil actives it manually for you
Zabazab
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Enhanced senses do not cover processing information at or moving at greater speeds.
It would fall under either Statistics Amplification or in the Speed rating of a character.
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Then its stat Amp to obs haki
