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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

Guacamolefletcher said:
Spiritual energy doesn't exist, there is only spiritual power and spiritual pressure.
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You know what I mean, don't be like that. When I first watched Bleach in my native language with fan-dubbing, it was translated as "Spiritual Energy." It's a habit for me to say it, and everybody understands what I mean when I say it.
Guacamolefletcher said:
He is literally just spitballing strong things he knows about. He can't sense Soul King level Aizen...
Cien regained his ultimate form he had as a 0 espada, and that is weaker than base Aizen. Second fusion Aizen alone is so weak, two base Aizen tier people (Kisuke and Isshin) can't even sense his power. How would Cien possibly sense a real Mugetsu's spiritual power? Also there's the fact that he survives it...
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That's why I said minimum 5-C, aka Base Aizen level. I still think 4-A can be argued through certain methods that involve, but are beyond, the sensing. It still involves Aizen, but I won't delve into it since no CRTs are planned soon anyway.
Guacamolefletcher said:
No one has a full translation of SAFWY, and you haven't read the full actual novel. The reddit dropbox version everyone has is a summary translation
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Now I get what you mean. From your wording, it sounded like I watched a YouTube video summarizing it. I've been trying to find the entire novel in Japanese digitally without needing to pay, although I think I'll just have to buy it physically😭. When I acquire it, I'll read it all because, first, I want to understand the story 100% with no loss in trash translations, and second, to clarify some things about the scaling.
Guacamolefletcher said:
If you think Cien is stronger than the espada because of a moment when his spiritual pressure swelled up for a bit, then you're mistaken. Read the scans in the actual profiles:
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I don't use the Yammy statement for my scaling for Cien. It's ridiculous to think that 30% Cien is > than 100% Yammy and all the other Espada. However, I do believe that 100% Cien is > than Yammy, even if it's not by a massive amount.

I still argue against the idea that everything Roka copies is always weaker in some way and that her copying is limited by power level or something similar. It does happen, but unless everything I'm saying is directly contradicted in the raw Japanese, Zommari and the Cero Doble have reasons for their failure beyond Roka's power level.
 
Im probably evil for even thinking of this but i would laugh a bit if Kubo said SAFWY and CFYOW are not canon right after you all got done working on them.
I don't expect it to happen at all(or want it to happen) but i would in all honesty chuckle a bit.
 
I don't think that will happen, there could be two situations. He will lead the end of the anime so that there are no loose ends in the main plot and SAFWY, CFYOW would just be complements. Or will he just change some information that was given later in these two
 
Malekith said:
I don't think that will happen, there could be two situations. He will lead the end of the anime so that there are no loose ends in the main plot and SAFWY, CFYOW would just be complements. Or will he just change some information that was given later in these two
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Yee,i agree on that.
 
Kubo's comment on his club~
“When we wanted to dub this week’s anime episodes, Shunsui’s voice actor made the mistake of going to the second episode’s dubbing studio, which made me laugh.By the way, also last week, Ukitake's voice actor went to the second chorus dubbing studio.As if they were “performing Shunsui and Jushiro” preparing for something.”
 
skippy said:
Kubo's comment on his club~
“When we wanted to dub this week’s anime episodes, Shunsui’s voice actor made the mistake of going to the second episode’s dubbing studio, which made me laugh.By the way, also last week, Ukitake's voice actor went to the second chorus dubbing studio.As if they were “performing Shunsui and Jushiro” preparing for something.”
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wow
Just imagine voicing a bleach character in this studio.
 
New stuff from Klub. Apparently if Ichigo could Hollowfy properly after the Ulquiorra fight (he was afraid of his Hollow powers so he couldn't Hollowfy properly), then Ichigo would have gone into his H2 form. Basically a controlled VL/Full Hollow Ichigo.
 
Ovy7 said:
New stuff from Klub. Apparently if Ichigo could Hollowfy properly after the Ulquiorra fight (he was afraid of his Hollow powers so he couldn't Hollowfy properly), then Ichigo would have gone into his H2 form. Basically a controlled VL/Full Hollow Ichigo.
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What do you mean "H2 form"?
 
Ovy7 said:
New stuff from Klub. Apparently if Ichigo could Hollowfy properly after the Ulquiorra fight (he was afraid of his Hollow powers so he couldn't Hollowfy properly), then Ichigo would have gone into his H2 form. Basically a controlled VL/Full Hollow Ichigo.
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A segunda etapa Ichigo would have been crazy💀
 
Bastolan27 said:
You still alive? I genuinely thought that by the time you got unbanned, you would have gotten a life, unlike the rest of us no-life powerscaliers (me not included obviously). By the way, Reio got permanently banned.
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Ive been banned for 5 years on here already and I'm still here. This was just 2 weeks. I did ask crab to perma ban me but he said no cause he thinks I'll ask for an unban. I don't think it's true but it's possible. Anyway regarding Reio, the messages were disgusting I don't condone any of that.

But I'm technically in charge of 2 verses now so I wanna finish them at least.
 
Apparently there are 3 stages of ho-ho.
3rd stage Shunpo
2nd Stage Bakiyaku
1st Stage Jouretsu

The reason Soi Fon couldnt track Tenjiro is bcs he is Tenjiro is incredibly good at the second stage - "Bakiyaku", He is incredibly fast.


Just posting some Kubo answers
 
Basically:

3rd stage Shunpo = every shinigami in the series
2nd Stage Bakiyaku = zero squad
1st Stage Jouretsu = ?
 
i think they are steps before actually doing the high speed movement/travel, like preparing the body and gathering/focusing the energy required for the movement.

So being better at Jouretsu and/or Bakiyaku would allow you to actually use shunpo faster , without actually making the travel speed faster.

I may be completely wrong tho , as i don't even know what the names means , but that is how i pictured it in my mind when i read it.
 
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