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Fair, fair.
Though I was hoping my post would cement it.
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Can Cosmic Fear startle a Man of Steel?
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Though I was hoping my post would cement it.
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If Superman does it before Garou copies him, its pretty reasonable. After he copies him, unless Garou is dumb, probably not possible for an IC Superman.
I went over the durability negation stuff. Superman's organs are almost as tough as he is and he can regenerate from having his heart punched out of his body. Its an advantage, but I wouldn't put it in "Will one shot Superman" advantage.
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I believe people are also underestimating Supermans senses.
There are no "Blind Spots" for the Last Son of Krypton, he could damn-well hear the portals.opening and the fists striking out. Garou might catch him a few times, but Superman is a quick learner, and he's going to start learning how to counter.
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Alright, that sounds reasonable.
What about amping without taking Garou into space? Just flying up, bathing in the sun, then coming back down to continue the scuffled?
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That's in-character for New 52 Superman but not Post-Crisis. He's only ever done Sunamps in response to an immediate threat rather than prepping or stocking power until he became gold.
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Supes can close Garou's portals, especially if they are holes in space-time.
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He can, but its not very quick. Garou's portals are really open for a few seconds tops and he can spam them, while to close them Superman needs to use focused effort to close the tear.
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Can Garou fly?
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He should have Pseudo-Flight at least.
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Can his pseudo-flight aid him in preventing Superman from going to the sun? Everyone talks about Supes carrying Garou to the sun, as if Supes cannot just go by himself and have Garou follow him. In this scenario, Supes is not protecting anyone; he is fighting to win, so he can move himself and, by extension, the fight elsewhere.
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blast literally uses his portals like that.
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When has Blast cut someone in half with a portal?
Also even if he did, Blast doing something doesn't mean Garou can/will.
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I'm not sure? His pseudo flight is kinda just him jumping really high and being able to move in the air afterwards, if you're asking if he can fly Superman, I think no.
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Your examples there aren't portals, but the black hole spheres that Blast and Garou can create. Superman can resist both, considering Blackholes and other inter-dimension vortexs don't really effect him.
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Garou adapts and evolves to the point of one-shotting Superman in a few minutes of fighting (being generous).
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Idk if someone has said this yet but Superman is about to go through some large P&A revisions so it's probably best to hold off on using him until their finished.
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All the PA stuff does is give Superman resistance to very Garou does other than power copying. So it wouldn't change anything.
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Or, in those few minutes, Superman takes Garou towards the sun and one-shots Garou instead.
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Garou can open portals to escape or just copy Superman's lifting strength.
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What are the range on Garous' portals?
Also, copying his lifting strength won't automatically prevent it; Supes has done it to people on his strength level.
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Garou's portals can reach anything in his line of sight. He was able to reach the Earth from Jupiter. Which is Interplanetary. He can presumably also open portals to other dimensions.
Also, Garou's strength grows further beyond what he copies, so Superman wouldn't be able to just hold him.
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Did you watch the Goku vs Supes Death battle? Supes will sun dip and then come back to earth to oneshot Garou.
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Eh, idk about copying LS, the difference between Garou and Supes is kind of absolutely insane in that regard.
that's IF supes, not PC, and they did that just to be cool, he doesn't do that constantly.
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Even if that's an actual thing he'd do, Garou would not let Superman just run away into the sun. He's pretty bloodthirsty in this form. Even if he doesn't know about the sun thing I doubt he's gonna just let Superman escape the fight.
He can just portal to Superman and continuing fighting him if he flies away. And if Superman tries to take him to the sun, copy + portals.
So was the gap between Saitama and Garou before Garou copied him.
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Did he even copy LS?
Grade A NLF ngl
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He doesn't do that constantly, but it would be dumb to say that if he is losing, he ain't gonna try everything in his arsenal to win.
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He did copy LS (From class e to pre-stellar) and he can copy any gap that isn't infinite as he no longer has a Limiter on his growth.
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He is getting to the Sun
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There's no way we let this shit slide, that's NLF on crack and just hiding behind "well if it aint infinite", like the same logic would allow infinite gaps too
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Superman getting to the Sun is pretty likely. Garou had to focus his eyesight to see that far and his portals can't really counter Superman's extreme turning speed.
But they would allow him to jump around in a fight and go to kther locations. But I don't think it stops a Sun rush.
If you mean his LS copy I'm pretty sure he grappled Saitama after he began to copy him again.
If you mean the person copying right now it's vaguely accepted to be any finite joule number, but he can't copy infinite figures or adapt to infinite figures.
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I don't think Garou gets around Superman's intangibility. And Superman has used intangibility as a way to dodge blows.
Plus if Garou tries to pop in in the middle of space while Superman is flying. If Superman dodges, Garou is kinda ****** since he can't really fly in space so he kinda would just be floating around.
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The only other option Garou would have by that point is Gamma Ray Burst as a way to overcome the range gap but like, GRBs move at light speed, something Superman should just be able to dodge.
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How likely is it for Superman to see Garou's soul, view him as pure evil, and use EE?
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