The commoners thread: Discussing Ultima's "On the Many, Many Incoherences of the Tiering System"

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

goku negs math fodders

Stop saying things with severe irrational bias.

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

Stop saying things with severe irrational bias.

That ain't bias bro.

That a fax, an unquestionable truth that you deny.

 

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

That ain't bias bro.

That a fax, an unquestionable truth that you deny.

I do not find humor in wank.

 

[Rakih_Elyan]

I do not find humor in wank.

Then you have a bad humor kek.

 

[VeryGoofyToddler]

Let’s just stay on topic. The person is a moderator as well, so please show respect even if he/she has bad humor.

 

[TheGatememer]

You’re right, that’s bad wank. Now, Saitama on the other hand…

 

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

You’re right, that’s bad wank. Now, Saitama on the other hand…

Using Saitama is also poor form.

 

[Ikelaggan]

At least if we're staying on topic another teir that has suffers from a skewed one verse bloat is ironically 1-A with about a 100 to the 269. Which if r>f does get accepted hopefully it opens up some diversity.

 

[Iiliminal]

sassy the sasquatch will neg the 1-A fodders

 

[Makunoichi]

sassy the sasquatch will neg the 1-A fodders

 

[The_forgetten]

All of this has already been addressed.

It means that you did not handle it correctly, you need to handle it again. Doing this will cause cosmology collapse in all series, so everyone will start using csap.

 

[Hasty12345]

It means that you did not handle it correctly, you need to handle it again. Doing this will cause cosmology collapse in all series, so everyone will start using csap.

Isn’t CSAP’s system very similar to what Ultima is arguing for the 1-A tiers?

 

[Robo432343]

Isn’t CSAP’s system very similar to what Ultima is arguing for the 1-A tiers?

ye csap 1-A is beyond the concept of dimensions

 

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

It means that you did not handle it correctly, you need to handle it again. Doing this will cause cosmology collapse in all series, so everyone will start using csap.

Unless you have something coherent to say, don't.

 

[Ikelaggan]

ye csap 1-A is beyond the concept of dimensions

Sorta, R>F as far as I know on CSAP isn't t really treated the same as what's in Ultima's proposal which is ironic that people are saying it's exactly like CSAP when R>F there practically just treated as a n+1.

 

[Hasty12345]

Sorta, R>F as far as I know on CSAP isn't t really treated the same as what's in Ultima's proposal which is ironic that people are saying it's exactly like CSAP when R>F there practically just treated as a n+1.

Ultimas criteria for R>F that he outlines along with the other general requirements he’s listed if sar closer yo CSAPs 1-A than current VBW 1-A.

The point is, if you think this is some “power scaling apocalyptic change” you’re in for a rude shock moving to CSAP.

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

Isn’t CSAP’s system very similar to what Ultima is arguing for the 1-A tiers?

Yeah, the premise is the same, but its explained differently

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

It means that you did not handle it correctly, you need to handle it again. Doing this will cause cosmology collapse in all series, so everyone will start using csap.

But it doesn’t collapse that many cosmology’s a lot of 1-A versus already use r>f and stuff

 

[The_forgetten]

Unless you have something coherent to say, don't.

You must be a bit of an idiot too. If you're not going to give a logical answer, don't make a useless comment.

 

[The_forgetten]

But it doesn’t collapse that many cosmology’s a lot of 1-A versus already use r>f and stuff

Thanks to the hierarchical layers in cosmology, every cosmology can get 1a from r>f, and some can get higher if there is a r>f context just because they are outside the concept of geometric dimension? And tell me the cosmology that takes 1a with just one r>f, hurry up, my friend.

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

Okay, for real now, knock it right off. Nothing gives anyone the right to taunt IdiosyncraticLawyer for his deadpan approach to this thread. Even before, I’m pretty sure some of you were taunting him relentlessly about how SCP would be downgraded. I’ll take this straight to RvR personally if it persists. Just calm down ffs.

 

[Da3ggman]

You must be a bit of an idiot too. If you're not going to give a logical answer, don't make a useless comment.

Mate, chill out a bit; there's no need to be rude.

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

Thanks to the hierarchical layers in cosmology, every cosmology can get 1a from r>f, and some can get higher if there is a r>f context just because they are outside the concept of geometric dimension? And tell me the cosmology that takes 1a with just one r>f, hurry up, my friend.

1. I don’t see how any of that is a problem “my friend”, introducing a concept of a dimension to something that can’t seems valid to me

2. Marvel, scp, narnia

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

Okay, for real now, knock it right off. Nothing gives anyone the right to taunt IdiosyncraticLawyer for his deadpan approach to this thread. Even before, I’m pretty sure some of you were taunting him relentlessly about how SCP would be downgraded. I’ll take this straight to RvR personally if it persists. Just calm down ffs.

Doesn’t scp have r>f tho?

 

[Blunt_Claw]

Doesn’t scp have r>f tho?

I think the scp dowgrade thing had to do with them losing all of their tier 0's.

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

I think the scp dowgrade had to do with them losing all of their tier 0's.

It’s scp, they’ll find something to make tier 0 irrelevant

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

Also iirc Godzilla ultima from the novel uses multiple r>f’s

 

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

You must be a bit of an idiot too. If you're not going to give a logical answer, don't make a useless comment.

Calling a moderator an "idiot" and "useless" for pointing out incoherently worded comments is going to get you in trouble if you keep it up.

 

[Ikelaggan]

Back on topic, DT typed out this Bible which I'm waiting on someone to at least give their TLDR on it cause it's a lot

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

Back on topic, DT typed out this Bible which I'm waiting on someone to at least give their TLDR on it cause it's a lot

Something something, I agree to an extent, but I gotta change some of the requirements

 

[The_forgetten]

Calling a moderator an "idiot" and "useless" for pointing out incoherently worded comments is going to get you in trouble if you keep it up.

Dude, there is no inconsistency here, I just want you to stop with the nonsense you are doing, besides, I am good at everything, lmao.

 

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

Dude, there is no inconsistency here, I just want you to stop with the nonsense you are doing, besides, I am good at everything, lmao.

Okay, now your mocking has crossed a line. I will be reporting you.

 

[Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara]

Back on topic, DT typed out this Bible which I'm waiting on someone to at least give their TLDR on it cause it's a lot

The TLDR is that he went on a long rant about how much he hates orphans and loves burning crops and kicking puppies. Kinda weird ngl

 

[The_forgetten]

1. I don’t see how any of that is a problem “my friend”, introducing a concept of a dimension to something that can’t seems valid to me

2. Marvel, scp, narnia

Friend, I know all the cosmologies you wrote and they consist of layered hierarchical r>f's, you can say that each cosmology has a compound hierarchy and the r>f's taken in the compound hierarchies are also layered, so here "1a cannot be taken with just a single r>f" in the same way. It is also valid for other cosmologies and also for the higher layers than the current h1a super flow in the Marvel fiction, for example, for the far shore, it does not exceed the super flow with r>f. I recommend you write knowing these.

 

[BadSystems]

The TLDR is that he went on a long rant about how much he hates orphans and loves burning crops and kicking puppies. Kinda weird ngl

I am not reading all of that so I will take your word for it. Truly sad that such a reputable member of the community DT would turn to such tactics to delay the revision...

 

[GarrixianXD]

goku negs math fodders

Incorrect, back to Tier Low 11-C.

 

[IdiosyncraticLawyer]

Doesn’t scp have r>f tho?

SCP has enough R>f for everything below Tier 0 to stay the same, but under Ultima's new system, all of their Tier 0 characters would be downgraded to High 1-A, as nothing in the verse is a true Monad.

Incorrect, back to Tier Low 11-C.

Enough, already.

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

SCP has enough R>f for everything below Tier 0 to stay the same, but under Ultima's new system, all of their Tier 0 characters would be downgraded to High 1-A, as nothing in the verse is a true Monad.

I hardly see that as enough to mock anyone over, they just jealous SCP is still stronger than 90% of the wiki

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

Friend, I know all the cosmologies you wrote and they consist of layered hierarchical r>f's, you can say that each cosmology has a compound hierarchy and the r>f's taken in the compound hierarchies are also layered, so here "1a cannot be taken with just a single r>f" in the same way. It is also valid for other cosmologies and also for the higher layers than the current h1a super flow in the Marvel fiction, for example, for the far shore, it does not exceed the super flow with r>f. I recommend you write knowing these.

"Friend" what tf are you talking about, is English your first language because I genuinely cannot understand you or your point, no offence

 

[The_forgetten]

"Friend" what tf are you talking about, is English your first language because I genuinely cannot understand you or your point, no offence

No dude, English is not my native language and I am a Turk. Moreover, what I wrote there is about superflow and far shore.