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thats mainly because of yhwach.
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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion
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Nah, their base power is just too overpowered. Just look at Quilgie; he relied mostly on standard Quincy powers.
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Thought as much but isn’t that because of their connection to the soul kinda and shrifts
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Very based!!!1
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Not counting Hybrids....definitely the Quincy
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Can't have shit.
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Bleach never getting a proper game lmao
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Senjumummy supremacy
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This Kubo Q&A, do you have a Klub Outside account?
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Definitely the Hybrids, if not i will say the Shinigamis because of Yamamoto,. Kenny and Ichibe if you exclude Yh.
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Future Soul King vs Future Asgard King
Thanks to the 3-C buff for Ichigo, we can do Marvel vs Bleach, who would’ve thought this day would come. Standard Battle Assumptions Speed equalized 3-C Versions Thor scales to 63 ZettaFoe Ichigo scales to 460 ZettaFoe Base Thor vs True Zanpakuto Bankai Ichigo Who wins and why?
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Quincy obv
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Fullbringer is not a race, they are humans.
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With Yhwach Quincies without Shikigamis ichibē carries.
Ichibē Solos the Quincies if Yhwach isn't present. Though anime might change I am talking based on Manga .
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Nah, remember that his power is useless against Gerarld, Pernida, and potentially Gremmy.
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pretty Certain Ichibei Outstats hard ATM and even if Ichimonji is useless he can throw the shrine kido which i can't name atm and that should do the trick.
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Nah, the Shrine Kido would be useless against Gerald. We've got to see how he scales in the anime.
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Bruh you really said Pernida?
You read Yhwach vs Ichibē fight properly. You remember what happened when Yhwach tried to use Pernida 2.0 shit on Ichibē also Ichibē would Outscale that fodder.
Gerard gets Negged with his Zanpackto or That EE shrine.
Gremmy can't do jackshit Against the stronger opponents. He is gonna get same thing as what he got with kenpachi.
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I said his power is useless against them, AKA Ichimonji. The EE shrine won't kill Gerald. Yhwach never used Pernida against Ichibei, and Anhaben doesn't work like Pernida.Bruh you really said Pernida?
You read Yhwach vs Ichibē fight properly. You remember what happened when Yhwach tried to use Pernida 2.0 shit on Ichibē also Ichibē would Outscale that fodder.
Gerard gets Negged with his Zanpackto or That EE shrine.
Gremmy can't do jackshit Against the stronger opponents. He is gonna get same thing as what he got with kenpachi.
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Why are these fire renders from tik tok of all places....
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No Gerard has no Resistance to EE + Gerard can be killed by destroying his core.
Ichibē literally had Pernaida with him before Yhwach stole it. So obviously Disagree with your point.
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1. The Hogyoku is a bastardization of the Soul King's power. Gerald is a piece of the Soul King's power, and both have been shown to function similarly.
2. Ichibe having Pernida before doesn't give him resistance to it. Pernida never attacked Ichibei in the whole manga, so I don't know where you are getting your info from.
2. Ichibe having Pernida before doesn't give him resistance to it. Pernida never attacked Ichibei in the whole manga, so I don't know where you are getting your info from.
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Not same this is headcanon. Both works in a different manner.
Never claimed Ichibē resisted Pernida abilities I was talking about his knowledge on Pernaida abilities both are different things.
Also what Yhwach was trying to do and what Pernida does is same thing. Let's say even if it's different if zaraki was fast enough to rip his hand off and continue fighting why can't Ichibe can do that? Additionally ichibē has Regeneration too. He can spam a kido and erase Pernaida.
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It's confirmed that both works due to being pieces of the Soul King.
It's not the same. One is a 'basic' Quincy technique, and the other is a power of the Soul King. One operates in blood vessels, and the other one in the nerves.
Even if the wiki tries to say otherwise, Zaraki should have most of his Can't Fear Your Own World (CFYOW) strength in the Thousand-Year Blood War (TYBW) arc, as there's little evidence to believe that he went from 5C to 3C in six months.
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I'm done
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Zaraki? The guy who went to not being able to damage base Nnoitra to being able to overpower the strongest Espada in the span of hours?
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6 Month difference. he literally had most of the power without the control, that's why he hurts himself with bankai.I'm done
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The power he already had. The whole point of Zaraki vs. Unohana was that he limited himself during battles, and when he reached his limits, he let some of those limiters go. That's why he grew stronger. Unohana said he got weaker in all the years between when they fought. Zaraki, post-Unohana, has no limiters; he has most of his full potential in power (not control). That's why his power-ups pre-Unohana are meaningless for this discussion.
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Nothing states that kid Zaraki is Zaraki’s power sealing. Kid Zaraki is like his level 1 and for the majority of the series he’s been less than level 1. Now that he’s regained his initial strength he’s free to grow at whatever growth rate he has. Which for our sake is going from top tier to god tier.
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The point is that Gerald is unquantifiably stronger than when he fought the Zero Division. We have no way of knowing his power at its strongest compared to Kenpachi. Thus, we cannot scale Kenpachi's full power; that's the whole point of being far higher in Bankai. I'm not saying that he scales to Can't Fear Your Own World (CFYOW), but he is unknown at his full power in the Thousand-Year Blood War (TYBW). It's disingenuous to say that he powers up in CFYOW just because of the plot (Gerald was a God-tier in his last form). Fighting him is not an anti-feat for the Schutzstaffel that's all I'm saying.
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It's not his power sealing, but his massive power-ups before Level 1 are not indicative of his power-ups after Level 1.
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