Infinite Zamasu Low 1-C upgrade

[KLOL506]

Thinking on it, if he doesn't fully affect the the other timeline then it should just be Interdimensional range. It being across the 5th dimensional axis doesn't really change this since its ultimately just another direction, which can be specified on the profile I guess.

IIRC it could qualify for the new upcoming Extradimensional range, will have to see.

 

[Killerdrone123]

Have we considered the idea that Zen'O is not omniscient and therefore he doesn't know how far Zamasu has spread? He might not know that Zamasu only fused with U7, and he deleted the whole timeline just in case if Zamasu actually fused with the whole timeline and is starting to leak to the other timelines.

I might be wrong but he can sense zamasu ki and would have know till what extent he must have spread

 

[omegabronic]

besides, if he really already fused with the entire timeline, that would have included Zeno's palace, aka Zeno would already have known of Zamasu and wouldn't have asked goku about him when he was called in the end of the arc

 

[omegabronic]

I might be wrong but he can sense zamasu ki and would have know till what extent he must have spread

that feel like reaching a little bit with information we never got

 

[Magicomethkuon]

And here are a few distinct examples of the system's definitions.

Universal+: Attacks and abilities that are able to reach anywhere within a single 4-dimensional space-time continuum.

Interdimensional: Attacks and abilities that can reach beyond the conventional space-time of a single universe, such as into external pocket realities or parts of other universes, but that may not necessarily travel a universal distance.

Low Multiversal: Attacks and abilities that are able to reach anywhere within two to one thousand 4-dimensional space-time continuums at the same time.

Multiversal: Attacks and abilities that are able to reach anywhere within 1001 to any higher finite number of 4-dimensional space-time continuums at the same time.

Multiversal+: Attacks and abilities that are able to reach anywhere within an infinite amount of 4-dimensional space-time continuums at the same time.

Low Complex Multiversal: Attacks and abilities that are able to reach throughout 5-dimensional to 6-dimensional space.

As we can conclude from this, the system also acknowledges that for a range rating, you need to reach:

A. Anywhere within the space that qualifies for that range.
B. Being able to reach just about anywhere throughout a space of those dimensions.
C. Interdimensional does not, necessarily, travel a universal distance. It's usually a rating for other lesser realities within the same scope of the character or cosmological structure.

From these points, Low 1-C range looks like the more accurate option in indexing than Interdimensional. Of course, if IZ could reach everything his range would be a higher level of 5-D but it's still 5-D nonetheless, simply limited.

 

[Killerdrone123]

that feel like reaching a little bit with information we never got

It is not some weird claim it is pretty logical

 

[Jaakor48]

And an insignificant 5-dimensional distance

Technically, the distance would insignificant 6D, since it separates two timelines

isn't Low Complex Multiversal, which is the point. What you're implying would be the same as granting High Universal range for a statement of "He ran to another place".

Yea but, Zamasu didn't just walk, he grew from inside a timeline, behind the timeline's borders, through the void and into another one, he was essentially in two timelines at the same time, also aren't timelines naturally taken as infinitely large? I don't think physically growing behind the constrains of one would be insignificant

 

[Padaruyos]

besides, if he really already fused with the entire timeline, that would have included Zeno's palace, aka Zeno would already have known of Zamasu and wouldn't have asked goku about him when he was called in the end of the arc

Yeah this really solidified that Zamasu didn't fuse (or at least hasn't) with the whole timeline yet.

 

[Jaakor48]

that feel like reaching a little bit with information we never got

Mind you, he still managed to kill the parts of Zamasu that made it to another timeline entirely, so he definitely knew how far he had spread

 

[Killerdrone123]

Yeah this really solidified that Zamasu didn't fuse (or at least hasn't) with the whole timeline yet.

You know this kinda works on our side why would zeno risk to destroy his home when zamasu only fused with u7 and would he make a decision to destroy on impulse just cause he felt disgusted and destroyed his own home and angels If the situation is already out of hands

 

[omegabronic]

Mind you, he still managed to kill the parts of Zamasu that made it to another timeline entirely, so he definitely knew how far he had spread

no, he was focusing on erasing zamasu, so he would erase zamasu, he didn't need to know how far he had spread, he only needed to erase zamasu

 

[omegabronic]

You know this kinda works on our side why would zeno risk to destroy his home when zamasu only fused with u7 and would he make a decision to destroy on impulse just cause he felt disgusted and destroyed his own home and angels If the situation is already out of hands

it goes against, if he fused with the whole hyper timeline, Zeno would already know what was happening, yet he didn't

 

[Killerdrone123]

no, he was focusing on erasing zamasu, so he would erase zamasu, he didn't need to know how far he had spread, he only needed to erase zamasu

By this logic then only u7 should have been erased since zamasu only fused with u7 if he was focusing on erasing zamasu why did the entire timeline got erased

 

[omegabronic]

By this logic then only u7 should have been erased since zamasu only fused with u7 if he was focusing on erasing zamasu why did the entire timeline got erased

because Zeno is just like that, erasing 6 universes over a simple annoyance, this tells us more about Zeno's character than anything else, besides as null showed above, he may not even have erased the entire timeline to begin with, altho, more discussion on that would be nice

 

[Killerdrone123]

because Zeno is just like that, erasing 6 universes over a simple annoyance, this tells us more about Zeno's character than anything else, besides as null showed above, he may not even have erased the entire timeline to begin with, altho, more discussion on that would be nice

No that's not what I am saying you said that zeno just need to ee zamasu and I followed up if zeno was targeting zamasu than only u7 shoul have been destroyed since he only fused with u7 the whole timeline shouldn't have been erased if he only targeted zamasu

 

[Killerdrone123]

because Zeno is just like that, erasing 6 universes over a simple annoyance, this tells us more about Zeno's character than anything else, besides as null showed above, he may not even have erased the entire timeline to begin with, altho, more discussion on that would be nice

Bruh are we really questioning did he destroyed the timeline or not I think profectus answered that

 

[omegabronic]

No that's not what I am saying you said that zeno just need to ee zamasu

and I followed up if zeno was targeting zamasu than only u7 shoul have been destroyed since he only fused with u7 the whole timeline shouldn't have been erased if he only targeted zamasu

i said this in response to you saying that Zeno erasing the parts of Zamasu in another timeline, which i responded that he would be able to do regardless since it is still part of the body zeno is erasing, thus i doesn't serve as proof of anything other than "zeno erased zamasu", which is obvious

 

[Killerdrone123]

-5 time rings.

-Subtract 1 for Zeno erasing the timeline.

-Add 1 for Beerus creating another timeline in destroying Zamasu.

-Add 1 for Whis creating a new timeline for Trunks and Mai.

-6 time rings?

Staff voted for range only, so we’re waiting for grace at this point.

Iirc Whis should’ve already created their timeline.

 

[omegabronic]

Bruh are we really questioning did he destroyed the timeline or not I think profectus answered that

as i said, more discussion on that would be nice, considering that null also responded to that

 

[Killerdrone123]

i said this in response to you saying that Zeno erasing the parts of Zamasu in another timeline, which i responded that he would be able to do regardless since it is still part of the body zeno is erasing, thus i doesn't serve as proof of anything other than "zeno erased zamasu", which is obvious

Yes and I followed up with the whole timeline isn't going to get erased if he only targeted zamasu

 

[omegabronic]

Yes and I followed up with the whole timeline isn't going to get erased if he only targeted zamasu

i said this in response to you saying that Zeno erasing the parts of Zamasu in another timeline, which i responded that he would be able to do regardless since it is still part of the body zeno is erasing, thus i doesn't serve as proof of anything other than "zeno erased zamasu", which is obvious

i never said that he only targeted zamasu, only that the proof you used serves in nothing to prove how much zamasu fused with

 

[Killerdrone123]

i never said that he only targeted zamasu, only that the proof you used serves in nothing to prove how much zamasu fused with

If you are saying that zeno erasing the entire timeline would lead erasure of zamasu is not true actually cause there are some Parts which are extended beyond the timeline and are invading in other timeline so zeno just erasing the timeline wouldn't erase his other parts it means he has to know how much he need to extend his ee to completely erase the zamasu

 

[Remo97]

Found this user blog page where it says that with proper translation and context, it is concluded that IZ merged with all universes.

Infinite Zamasu Fused with the Multiverse

character-stats-and-profiles.fandom.com

What do you think about it?

 

[omegabronic]

If you are saying that zeno erasing the entire timeline would lead erasure of zamasu is not true actually cause there are some Parts which are extended beyond the timeline and are invading in other timeline so zeno just erasing the timeline wouldn't erase his other parts it means he has to know how much he need to extend his ee to completely erase the zamasu

he would be erasing zamasu either way, which would obviously erase all of his body as well, him erasing him all the way to another timeline doesn't make him need to know how far he reached, him erasing Zamasu would make it already go that far

 

[Killerdrone123]

he would be erasing zamasu either way, which would obviously erase all of his body as well, him erasing him all the way to another timeline doesn't make him need to know how far he reached, him erasing Zamasu would make it already go that far

did you read what I said him just erasing zamasu would lead to erasure of u7 only and him erasing timeline would not lead to his complete erasure cause his other parts were already invading other timeline so his only part fused with the timeline would be erased not him completely

 

[omegabronic]

did you read what I said him just erasing zamasu would lead to erasure of u7 only

did you read what i said?

i never said that he only targeted zamasu, only that the proof you used serves in nothing to prove how much zamasu fused with

stop putting words in my mouth

and him erasing timeline would not lead to his complete erasure cause his other parts were already invading other timeline so his only part fused with the timeline would be erased not him completely

it would lead either way since zeno is erasing him

 

[Jaakor48]

he would be erasing zamasu either way, which would obviously erase all of his body as well, him erasing him all the way to another timeline doesn't make him need to know how far he reached, him erasing Zamasu would make it already go that far

You're speaking with both sides of your mouth

If his erase automatically only targeted Zamasu regardless of how far he spread, then it means he had spread to the timeline


If he manually targeted Zamasu, then had he had to know exactly how far he had already to to accurately snipe him from another timeline entirely

 

[Killerdrone123]

it would lead either way since zeno is erasing him

No not really if zeno only targeted timeline like I said would only erase the parts he was fused with in that timeline not his other parts which have gone beyond it

 

[omegabronic]

You're speaking with both sides of your mouth

If his erase automatically only targeted Zamasu regardless of how far he spread, then it means he had spread to the timeline

no, it means that it would go as far as Zamasu has, Zeno didn't erased only Zamasu tho

If he manually targeted Zamasu, then had he had to know exactly how far he had already to to accurately snipe him from another timeline entirely

if he nukes the thing where zamasu exists in, then zamasu goes away by default

 

[omegabronic]

No not really if zeno only targeted timeline like I said would only erase the parts he was fused with in that timeline not his other parts which have gone beyond it

if zamasu became part of Universe 7, then he is part of the timeline, all of his parts, which are part of the timeline, would also be erased by default

 

[Jaakor48]

Found this user blog page where it says that with proper translation and context, it is concluded that IZ merged with all universes.

Infinite Zamasu Fused with the Multiverse

character-stats-and-profiles.fandom.com

What do you think about it?

I just skimmed through, which translator was used?

 

[Killerdrone123]

if zamasu became part of Universe 7, then he is part of the timeline, all of his parts, which are part of the timeline, would also be erased by default

Bro zamasu was invading our main timeline what are you talking about his presence was not limited to trunks timeline

 

[AguilaR202]

Timeline is accepted as Low 1-C which is the range being upgraded here. But due to how this Zamasu works and basically integrating himself into stuff he would need Low 1-C Firepower to be killed.

Nothing suggests Zamasu needs to fuse with a
Whole tier 1 structure, he just needs to pass through them to reach other Low 2-C structures and actually merge with them.

 

[Jaakor48]

no, it means that it would go as far as Zamasu has, Zeno didn't erased only Zamasu tho

"As far as Zamasu" so Zamasu was the entire timeline then? And if it didn't erase just Zamasu then it wasn't a Zamasu specific erase

if he nukes the thing where zamasu exists in, then zamasu goes away by default

Meaning he knew exactly how far Zamasu had gone to target him even into another timeline entirely


Look I don't have time for this back and forth, you either accept Zeno knew exactly how far Zamasu spread to, or he uses a specific erase that erased only Zamasu wherever he was

 

[omegabronic]

Bro zamasu was invading our main timeline what are you talking about his presence was not limited to trunks timeline

never said that it was, read what i said again, he was part of the timeline as he was part of universe 7, so if the timeline gets erased, he goes away too, so all his parts, which are part of the timeline, would also be erased

 

[omegabronic]

"As far as Zamasu" so Zamasu was the entire timeline then? And if it didn't erase just Zamasu then it wasn't a Zamasu specific erase

no, this is purely me saying that the erasure going off even into the parts of zamasu in other timelines really doesn't prove how much he fused with

Meaning he knew exactly how far Zamasu had gone to target him even into another timeline entirely

no because as part of the timeline, Zamasu would have been erased by default

Look I don't have time for this back and forth, you either accept Zeno knew exactly how far Zamasu spread to, or he uses a specific erase that erased only Zamasu wherever he was

or that he erased the Timeline, hence Zamasu by default since he is part of said timeline

 

[Killerdrone123]

never said that it was, read what i said again, he was part of the timeline as he was part of universe 7, so if the timeline gets erased, he goes away too, so all his parts, which are part of the timeline, would also be erased

Yeah we are going in circles here no point in arguing I think Jakor already said what i was going to say in the above comment

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

Stop with the Zamasu was the whole timeline. It's evident that he wasn't. Zeno had no idea till he saw him and then nuked everything. And Zeno would at most be disgusted and pissed off which made him erase everything as he knew shit about the condition of Zamasu and he doesn't exactly have cosmic awareness. He wouldn't even know what Zamasu currently is. He just knew he could kill him and he wiped out everything when he saw what it had become. It was probably an overreaction to be honest. Like the burn a house to kill a spider meme.

 

[Remo97]

I just skimmed through, which translator was used?

Dont know. Im not an expert of japanese nor translation stuff.
If someone else is, then their opinion about that page is welcomed.

 

[Jaakor48]

Stop with the Zamasu was the whole timeline. It's evident that he wasn't. Zeno had no idea till he saw him and then nuked everything. And Zeno would at most be disgusted and pissed off which made him erase everything as he knew shit about the condition of Zamasu and he doesn't exactly have cosmic awareness. He wouldn't even know what Zamasu currently is. He just knew he could kill him and he wiped out everything when he saw what it had become. It was probably an overreaction to be honest. Like the burn a house to kill a spider meme.

I don't believe he became the entire timeline either, just pointing out the fallacy of his argument about how Zeno erased him