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Aaron Tide vs Yu (The Rematch)

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Aaron Tide (The Boxer)

Aaron Tide was the previous World Heavyweight Boxing Champion, and seemingly the strongest boxer in history. Having never lost a single match due to his monstrous strength and reason defying power, Aaron lived a life of luxury and fame. Despite this, Aaron seems to hate his monstrous strength...
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Yu (The Boxer)

Yu is the main character of The Boxer webtoon series. Yu has a startlingly emotionless and disinterested persona, taking little to no interest in anything other than his pet cat. After his encounter with K he is taken under his wing to be trained into becoming the best boxer in the world. Tier...
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If speed is equalized Aaron wins, Aaron had problems hitting Yu because of the lack of speed, after when he started to use technique he could match him, if they start with equal speed I don't think Yu will handle that higher speed given by the technique but we also have to consider Aaron won't go for the kill while Yu will.
 
The point is they both were bloodlusted even in the original fight, Aaron simply stopped anyway, unless you forces him to be bloodlusted until the very end of the fight but Aaron as character would stop himself from killing Yu, the whole point of the fight is Aaron not becoming a monster by killing Yu.
 
Aaron at full power was able to surpass Yu's physical speed and Yu had to rely on his own raw reaction to actually evade shit.

Without bloodlust Aaron doesn't go that hard unless Yu pushes him to and loses.

With bloodlust it plays out exactly the same as the canonical fight
 
If anyone tries to come at me with the "Aaron used technique to hit Yu" yee yee ass arguments again I'll remind you that K said Aaron's skills were mid. He is literally mid at boxing. His intelligence section says it. His literal redeeming quality is that he is way faster and way stronger than any human who dares challenge him. It's why at full power he was pretty much cannonballing past Yu with every hit. No way it's technique since no way mid-skill technique can do shit to Yu, aka, mr. Dodge the guy who reached almost perfection of technique.
 
Arceus0x said:
If anyone tries to come at me with the "Aaron used technique to hit Yu" yee yee ass arguments again I'll remind you that K said Aaron's skills were mid. He is literally mid at boxing. His intelligence section says it. His literal redeeming quality is that he is way faster and way stronger than any human who dares challenge him. It's why at full power he was pretty much cannonballing past Yu with every hit. No way it's technique since no way mid-skill technique can do shit to Yu, aka, mr. Dodge the guy who reached almost perfection of technique.
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Is not a matter of skill, simply using technique even with average level skill can speed up the punch, it even happens IRL, also its blatanty shown a massive difference between his punches without technique and his punches with them
DivineAura44 said:
This is just cap. With bloodlust Aaron wouldn't have pulled back on his last punch.
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He was bloodlusted the entire fight, the point is that he will stop his bloodlust because he isn't a monster, it's the point of the fight
 
Zefra3011 said:
He was bloodlusted the entire fight, the point is that he will stop his bloodlust because he isn't a monster, it's the point of the fight
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There is a difference between bloodlust in the boxer and bloodlust on this wiki
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Bloodlust refers to a state where a character is fighting without any inhibitions, and cares about nothing other than defeating the enemy. Bloodlusted characters fear nothing, and won't hesitate taking injures if it leads to a higher probability of winning a battle. A bloodlusted character will...
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Bloodlust in this wiki won't stop you from becoming a monster, it would ignore the character of Aaron
 
Zefra3011 said:
He was bloodlusted the entire fight, the point is that he will stop his bloodlust because he isn't a monster, it's the point of the fight
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I don't understand what point you are making. Yes he was bloodlusted for most of the fight but he pulls his last punch. Meanwhile here he wouldn't.
 
Zefra3011 said:
Is not a matter of skill, simply using technique even with average level skill can speed up the punch, it even happens IRL, also its blatanty shown a massive difference between his punches without technique and his punches with them
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It really doesn't matter since what matters here is physical speed. Yu mopped the floor with technique and skill gods. Aaron's technique is crap. All that matters is his maximum speed output compared to Yu's maximum speed output. In the original fight, his was higher. Now it is equalised.
 
Arceus0x said:
It really doesn't matter since what matters here is physical speed. Yu mopped the floor with technique and skill gods. Aaron's technique is crap. All that matters is his maximum speed output compared to Yu's maximum speed output. In the original fight, his was higher. Now it is equalised.
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Where is it stated he's faster?
 
Speed equalized screws Yu over lol.

Using basic techniques brought Aaron from being utterly helpless against Yu's speed to having blows that were considered impossible to dodge, with Yu needing to BARELY deflect or shift his body so that they would only land glancing blows on him.

In a speed-equalized match, where the VAST difference in speed is gone, Aaron head shots Yu with the first jab.
 
since Aaron combat speed and Yu combat speed are equalized the speed up Aaron optains from the technique would allow him to hit Yu, Aaron was no where close to Yu speed in the fight until a certain point while by using technique he could match, if not surpass, him, here they start equal, I doubt Yu would dodge those punches now since the difference presented is the same between a visible punch and a punch which disappears.
 
DivineAura44 said:
Where is it stated he's faster?
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In the fact that he tagged Yu despite Yu's slow mo reaction? Like you simply cannot do something similar if you are slower than him. He wasn't able to do that either until he actually got serious and bloodlusted.

Just to use an example, if you've a guy who is X fast and has a 3X reaction speed, he can easily dodge anything his opponent dishes out who is just as fast. If the opponent is now 2.5X fast then all the guy can do is aim-dodge using his reaction. Basic logic.
 
Y'all unironically posted scans that prove that Aaron's physical speed is more than Yu's in the damn fight. Their max combat speed is equalised here, Yu has a better chance, not a worse ffs.
 
Arceus0x said:
Y'all unironically posted scans that prove that Aaron's physical speed is more than Yu's in the damn fight. Their max combat speed is equalised here, Yu has a better chance, not a worse ffs.
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Except...no? Because Aaron's "boxing skills" are a legitimate speed amp, as shown during the fight itself. Aaron's "normal" combat speed would be equalized, not his amps.
 
Also for crying out loud Robo can you, you know, stop spamming Yu matches? I am the one and only guy arguing for Yu. I'm over here better-call-sauling this shit solo while Azontr is taking a break for the wiki and you decide to strike now? I can't handle the brunt every boxing verse's supporter (and TR goons who idk why they appeared here in the first place) by myself okay?
 
Arceus0x said:
Also for crying out loud Robo can you, you know, stop spamming Yu matches? I am the one and only guy arguing for Yu. I'm over here better-call-sauling this shit solo while Azontr is taking a break for the wiki and you decide to strike now? I can't handle the brunt every boxing verse's supporter (and TR goons who idk why they appeared here in the first place) by myself okay?
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im sneaky bro
 
The_man_with_the_Midas_touch said:
Except...no? Because Aaron's "boxing skills" are a legitimate speed amp, as shown during the fight itself. Aaron's "normal" combat speed would be equalized, not his amps.
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Bullshit. I am calling bullshit. There is no "speed amp" accepted on his profile. There is no speed amp anywhere. It's Aaron simply getting serious. This isn't some goofy ahh dark instinct or whatever from TR that boosts stats it is him literally getting serious.
Prove me that it is some stat boost first, then argue.
 
Arceus0x said:
There is no "speed amp" accepted on his profile. There is no speed amp anywhere
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There....there is a speed amp accepted on his profile. What?

Statistics Amplification (By applying boxing technique to his already monstrous strength, Aaron is capable of concentrating his explosive power[4] and increasing the strength and speed of his attacks)

At least Subsonic (Should be far, far faster than Jean Pierre Manuel), At least Hypersonic with technique (When applying technique to his strength, Aaron was capable of moving at such speeds that he could make it so that not even Yu would be able to avoid it[4], despite the fact Yu was previously so much faster than Aaron that it was stated that he was "no match" for his speed and sharpness[6])

We, very explicitly, treat Aaron's techniques as a speed amp.
 
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