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God of War: Greek Macrocosm CRT

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Not to derail, but imagine what would've happened if the Low 1-C Yggdrasil CRT wasn't made before this was.
 
Eseseso said:
Not to derail, but imagine what would've happened if the Low 1-C Yggdrasil CRT wasn't made before this was.
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This CRT wouldn't be possible anyway without the Yggdrasil CRT, that's what gave this inspiration in the first place LOL
 
Just a question these so called alternate time dimensions seems to be just mirror portals to different points in time to me since if kratos fails to stop atrops from destroying the sword ares Stabs his past self and then present kratos immediately dies
 
SYPHe5D said:
Just a question these so called alternate time dimensions seems to be just mirror portals to different points in time to me since if kratos fails to stop astrops from destroying the sword ares Stabs his past self and then present kratos immediately dies
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If Kratos dies, an alternate timeline is formed (As the past is changed), as the OP explains. These alternate timelines would thus be our hypertimelines.

The novel also states these points in time to be entirely different worlds from the main timeline, as was originally decreed in this CRT.
 
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Yeah make sense

Considering timeline always infinity to the future, and you just can placed (displace) 2 infinity lines in higher order dimension, and all kratos timeline in the mirror already encomposses more than 1 timelines. The mirror must be higher time dimension without exception
 
The mirror is just a gateway that leads to said time dimension. The real story is that it is all controlled by the powers of the Sisters of Fate and their Threads of Fate (Which are actually responsible for said dimensions being there in the first place), given their whimsical nature of "I can do anything and I already did it just because I can and because it's very fun".
 
KLOL506 said:
The mirror is just a gateway that leads to said time dimension. The real story is that it is all controlled by the powers of the Sisters of Fate and their Threads of Fate (Which are actually responsible for said dimensions being there in the first place), given their whimsical nature of "I can do anything and I already did it just because I can and because it's very fun".
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Yeah i mean the timeline inside the mirror

btw isnt the power of fate it self is contain that several hypertimeline, why that power isnt 6D
 
Fixxed said:
btw isnt the power of fate it self is contain that several hypertimeline, why that power isnt 6D
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Shhhhhhhhhh, we don't speak about the purported "higher fate" here, best to leave it for the next game
 
Hmmm, I wasn't invited this time ehh. GoW burnout aside, I will still check it.
Planck69 said:

Changes & Scaling​

  • The Sisters of Fate would have their range upgraded to Low Complex Multiverse level for being able to control the fate of the entire Greek World and indeed create other hyper-timelines as well.
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This is for the timeline being capable of governing all of the 2-C realms in the Greek Pantheon like Underworld, Dream, Domain of Death as a hypertimeline, instead of just governing the Mortal World, correct?
If so then I can agree.
Planck69 said:
  • The World Pillar would have its tier be Low Complex Multiverse level for sustaining and supporting the Greek World. Note that this is for only one hyper-timeline as each would have its own Pillar according to this revision.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but the World Pillar supports the Realms not the Hypertimeline, so this would still be Tier 2.
Planck69 said:
  • The overall tiers of the characters remain exactly the same. This is something all of you should be aware of. This isn't a "6-D UPGRADE!" or anything of the sort. Just a cosmology update and range upgrade for 2 characters.
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Sisters of Fate and who?
 
Tanin_iver said:
Hmmm, I wasn't invited this time ehh. GoW burnout aside, I will still check it.

This is for the timeline being capable of governing all of the 2-C realms in the Greek Pantheon like Underworld, Dream, Domain of Death as a hypertimeline, instead of just governing the Mortal World, correct?
If so then I can agree.
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Mortal World, Underworld, Nyx's Dimension of Eternal Night, Morpheus's Realm of Dream's and Thanatos's Domain of Death. All of this constitutes as one hypertimeline.

There's 6 more other hypertimelines as per the OP's explanation aside from the main timeline (A timeline where Kratos kicks Atropos's ass, a timeline where Kratos dies, two other timelines in the two mirrors flanking the central mirror, Kratos shoving Zeus aside and another timeline where Zeus whacks the Spartan Army).

Tanin_iver said:
Correct me if I am wrong, but the World Pillar supports the Realms not the Hypertimeline, so this would still be Tier 2.
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No, the realms are not the limit of the World Pillar. All of Creation beyond the realms cease to exist AKA the entire hypertimeline would collapse and revert to Chaos. The realms constitute as part of the Greek World, which in turn is part of the Greek Pantheon and its creation stories.

Even before this CRT back in the Tier 2 days we had already accepted with proof that nuking the World Pillar would cause all of space and time to cease to exist as they fall under the "creation" umbrella which falls under the Pantheon's contents and creation stories.

Now that "Pantheon's contents" just gets changed to Low 1-C as per the OP's description, that's all.

Tanin_iver said:
Sisters of Fate and who?
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There's only two of the Sisters of Fate. Atropos and Lahkesis. Clotho will have to wait, censoring her gelatinous breasts is an absolute nightmare.

Only other changes would be... Atlas and the World Pillar regarding their AP and LS descriptions.
 
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This caught my attention and since I find GoW cosmology interesting, even with my lack of understanding regarding Tier 1.

I want to know what exactly makes the "hyper timeline" as the OP calls it, Tier 1. As our tiering system states...

Characters or objects that can significantly affect spaces of qualitatively greater sizes than ordinary universal models and spaces, usually represented in fiction by higher levels or states of existence (Or "levels of infinity", as referred below) which trivialize everything below them into insignificance, normally by perceiving them as akin to fictional constructs or something infinitesimal.

So what makes the Greek World a higher "level of infinity" compared to the Mortal World and others. There would need to be proof that the Mortal World, Underworld and so on are either perceived as fictional constructs or something infinitesimal compared to it but I don't see that in the OP (Though I'm probably not paying enough attention, I just woke up).
 
LordGriffin1000 said:
This caught my attention and since I find GoW cosmology interesting, even with my lack of understanding regarding Tier 1.

I want to know what exactly makes the "hyper timeline" as the OP calls it, Tier 1. As our tiering system states...

Characters or objects that can significantly affect spaces of qualitatively greater sizes than ordinary universal models and spaces, usually represented in fiction by higher levels or states of existence (Or "levels of infinity", as referred below) which trivialize everything below them into insignificance, normally by perceiving them as akin to fictional constructs or something infinitesimal.

So what makes the Greek World a higher "level of infinity" compared to the Mortal World and others. There would need to be proof that the Mortal World, Underworld and so on are either perceived as fictional constructs or something infinitesimal compared to it but I don't see that in the OP (Though I'm probably not paying enough attention, I just woke up).
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@Planck69
 
LordGriffin1000 said:
This caught my attention and since I find GoW cosmology interesting, even with my lack of understanding regarding Tier 1.

I want to know what exactly makes the "hyper timeline" as the OP calls it, Tier 1. As our tiering system states...

Characters or objects that can significantly affect spaces of qualitatively greater sizes than ordinary universal models and spaces, usually represented in fiction by higher levels or states of existence (Or "levels of infinity", as referred below) which trivialize everything below them into insignificance, normally by perceiving them as akin to fictional constructs or something infinitesimal.

So what makes the Greek World a higher "level of infinity" compared to the Mortal World and others. There would need to be proof that the Mortal World, Underworld and so on are either perceived as fictional constructs or something infinitesimal compared to it but I don't see that in the OP (Though I'm probably not paying enough attention, I just woke up).
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Actually wait, I think I can explain this now.

Basically it uses the infinite snapshot argument (Same way 4D works), but this time, the snapshots are 4D instead of 3D, as the realms are spatio-temporally separated, so the snapshots would thus cover the 5D distance (4th spatial axis) between the realms.
 
LordGriffin1000 said:
So what makes the Greek World a higher "level of infinity" compared to the Mortal World and others. There would need to be proof that the Mortal World, Underworld and so on are either perceived as fictional constructs or something infinitesimal compared to it but I don't see that in the OP (Though I'm probably not paying enough attention, I just woke up).
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I dont think we use actual "higher infinity" argument here

But the timeline in mirror is embeding the other lesser timelines. It will make the lesser timeline as part of it infinity. Considering all timeline is infinity by default, the bigger timeline will have uncountable infinity length because it embeding the lesser timeline as it part of time

Let me simply that, a timeline by default is built from uncountable infinity snapshots of 3D that make the timeline it self by default is 4D. So what about if we change the 3D snapshots to 4D??? It will makes the length of timeline that contain them is 5D. That if we see in persvective of the time axis

If we see from the spatial axis. Two parallel lines (1D) can just be displaced in higher order space or a flat plane (2D). We already have many 4D universal structure that exist in greek world, it will make the space in greek world it self is 5D, because 4D parallel structure is just can exist on higher order space or yeah 5D space

Bruh... even i think the greek world as a whole or 1 timeline in mirror must be 6D, because it add 2D to the 4D, 1D spatial axis and 1D time axis
 
LordGriffin1000 said:
This caught my attention and since I find GoW cosmology interesting, even with my lack of understanding regarding Tier 1.

I want to know what exactly makes the "hyper timeline" as the OP calls it, Tier 1. As our tiering system states...

Characters or objects that can significantly affect spaces of qualitatively greater sizes than ordinary universal models and spaces, usually represented in fiction by higher levels or states of existence (Or "levels of infinity", as referred below) which trivialize everything below them into insignificance, normally by perceiving them as akin to fictional constructs or something infinitesimal.

So what makes the Greek World a higher "level of infinity" compared to the Mortal World and others. There would need to be proof that the Mortal World, Underworld and so on are either perceived as fictional constructs or something infinitesimal compared to it but I don't see that in the OP (Though I'm probably not paying enough attention, I just woke up).
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Basically, the greater timeline of the Greek World embeds the Primordials, their realms (which are of themselves infinite 4-dimensional space-time continuums) and everything as objects within its timestream.

So in essence, it's a higher temporal axes that embeds space-time continuums within it, similar to how timelines have uncountably infinite snapshots of their 3-dimensional aspect counting as large 4-dimensional spaces but replace the "3-dimensional aspect" with realms that are already space-time continuums.

TL;DR it uses the logic of the greater timeline of the Greek World being equivalent to uncountably infinite snapshots of regular space-time continuums, which is equivalent to Low 1-C.
 
KLOL506 said:
Actually wait, I think I can explain this now.

Basically it uses the infinite snapshot argument (Same way 4D works), but this time, the snapshots are 4D instead of 3D, as the realms are spatio-temporally separated, so the snapshots would thus cover the 5D distance (4th spatial axis) between the realms.
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I dont think we use actual "higher infinity" argument here

But the timeline in mirror is embeding the other lesser timelines. It will make the lesser timeline as part of it infinity. Considering all timeline is infinity by default, the bigger timeline will have uncountable infinity length because it embeding the lesser timeline as it part of time

Let me simply that, a timeline by default is built from uncountable infinity snapshots of 3D that make the timeline it self by default is 4D. So what about if we change the 3D snapshots to 4D??? It will makes the length of timeline that contain them is 5D. That if we see in persvective of the time axis

If we see from the spatial axis. Two parallel lines (1D) can just be displaced in higher order space or a flat plane (2D). We already have many 4D universal structure that exist in greek world, it will make the space in greek world it self is 5D, because 4D parallel structure is just can exist on higher order space or yeah 5D space

Bruh... even i think the greek world as a whole or 1 timeline in mirror must be 6D, because it add 2D to the 4D, 1D spatial axis and 1D time axis
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Planck69 said:
Basically, the greater timeline of the Greek World embeds the Primordials, their realms (which are of themselves infinite 4-dimensional space-time continuums) and everything as objects within its timestream.

So in essence, it's a higher temporal axes that embeds space-time continuums within it, similar to how timelines have uncountably infinite snapshots of their 3-dimensional aspect counting as large 4-dimensional spaces but replace the "3-dimensional aspect" with realms that are already space-time continuums.

TL;DR it uses the logic of the greater timeline of the Greek World being equivalent to uncountably infinite snapshots of regular space-time continuums, which is equivalent to Low 1-C.
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So it's a timeline within a timeline argument?
 
GilverTheProtoAngelo said:
In layman's terms yes.
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Planck69 said:
Pretty much, yeah. If you want it in dimensional terms, there's a higher temporal dimension embedding the other space-times.
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Hmmm, given I still have a clear misunderstanding regarding how our Tier 1 standards work, the OP cam just drop me down for Neutral regarding the addition, leaning towards agreeing. If someone with a logical counter argument explains why it's not Low 1-C, then my stance might change but for now I won't hault the thread with other questions. Good luck, GoW people.

Though following a similar logic to the above posts, I could go buff the Danny Phantom cosmology/characters from 2-A to Low 1-C since the Ghost Zone is accepted as a space-time continuum that contains an infinite number of separate realms including literal timestreams (timelines) within itself. Excuse me while I go try and wrap my head around our Tier 1 standards again and also contemplate how Greenshifter might have been correct about that potential upgrade....
 
LordGriffin1000 said:
Though following a similar logic to the above posts, I could go buff the Danny Phantom cosmology/characters from 2-A to Low 1-C since the Ghost Zone is accepted as a space-time continuum that contains an infinite number of separate realms including literal timestreams (timelines) within itself. Excuse me while I go try and wrap my head around our Tier 1 standards again and also contemplate how Greenshifter might have been correct about that potential upgrade....
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Good luck to you too
 
LordGriffin1000 said:
Hmmm, given I still have a clear misunderstanding regarding how our Tier 1 standards work, the OP cam just drop me down for Neutral regarding the addition, leaning towards agreeing. If someone with a logical counter argument explains why it's not Low 1-C, then my stance might change but for now I won't hault the thread with other questions. Good luck, GoW people.
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Aite.
LordGriffin1000 said:
Though following a similar logic to the above posts, I could go buff the Danny Phantom cosmology/characters from 2-A to Low 1-C since the Ghost Zone is accepted as a space-time continuum that contains an infinite number of separate realms including literal timestreams (timelines) within itself. Excuse me while I go try and wrap my head around our Tier 1 standards again and also contemplate how Greenshifter might have been correct about that potential upgrade....
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You could tbh.
 
LordGriffin1000 said:
Hmmm, given I still have a clear misunderstanding regarding how our Tier 1 standards work, the OP cam just drop me down for Neutral regarding the addition, leaning towards agreeing. If someone with a logical counter argument explains why it's not Low 1-C, then my stance might change but for now I won't hault the thread with other questions. Good luck, GoW people.

Though following a similar logic to the above posts, I could go buff the Danny Phantom cosmology/characters from 2-A to Low 1-C since the Ghost Zone is accepted as a space-time continuum that contains an infinite number of separate realms including literal timestreams (timelines) within itself. Excuse me while I go try and wrap my head around our Tier 1 standards again and also contemplate how Greenshifter might have been correct about that potential upgrade....
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Good luck man
 
I'm the kind of person who feels the verse itself should declare them as low 1C rather than "this means", "this must mean that" kind of logic, because yknow, not all fiction conforms to the said standards.

But still, this is how some things work on the wiki so put me in agreement
 
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