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Sonic the Hedgehog vs The Player (Wizard101) (2-2-0)
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This is why I was considering making it Base Sonic since he basically still has all of his win conditions
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also the players minions kinda sounds like a NLF ngl
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Well they're kind of not the main focus of the fight
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i think as long as the player uses probability hax to make the chance of sonic attacking him 0% he's good
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Is that a vote for the Player then?
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nah i wont vote yet
ShakeResounding
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Even assuming Sonic misses all of his attacks, there's not even going to be a chance for a retaliation that Sonic won't pick up on because of higher reaction speed combined with amps.
I vote Sonic for my reasons, and tbh I'm surprised this match ended up working.
I vote Sonic for my reasons, and tbh I'm surprised this match ended up working.
ShakeResounding
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If The Player can hang with Archie, my hopes aren't high for Game. Low 1-C passives hurt lol
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Well at least there's a key without Low 1-C passives
ShakeResounding
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Sonic no-sold Dark Gaia's influence due to his strong will, which is both Mind/Empathic Manip.
Ayewale
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What does Sonic do against the Player's probability hax?
If Sonic has a 0% chance of his techniques working then they never will. If the Player raises the chances of his techniques working then they eventually will (notwithstanding that Sonic getting overconfident/cocky and simply ******* up is well within his character). Sonic's resurrection...uses an image so blurry it's literally unreadable, nice. But anyways, going off the wiki, Sonic needs to actually collect Soul Energy to resurrect, and the Soul Gauge starts at zero. If the chance of Sonic's stuff working is at zero, then he'd just never get the Soul Gauge. Under these conditions the Player should be pretty much guaranteed to win.
Alternatively, if Sonic just blitzes him with an attack 346x the Player's speed and instantly kills him then the match is a stomp.
I'll vote the player assuming the latter scenario isn't what we're working off.
If Sonic has a 0% chance of his techniques working then they never will. If the Player raises the chances of his techniques working then they eventually will (notwithstanding that Sonic getting overconfident/cocky and simply ******* up is well within his character). Sonic's resurrection...uses an image so blurry it's literally unreadable, nice. But anyways, going off the wiki, Sonic needs to actually collect Soul Energy to resurrect, and the Soul Gauge starts at zero. If the chance of Sonic's stuff working is at zero, then he'd just never get the Soul Gauge. Under these conditions the Player should be pretty much guaranteed to win.
Alternatively, if Sonic just blitzes him with an attack 346x the Player's speed and instantly kills him then the match is a stomp.
I'll vote the player assuming the latter scenario isn't what we're working off.
ShakeResounding
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How The Player manages to even touch Sonic here is the bigger problem; as he has 4x greater reaction speed, as well as agility and mobility better in every way with amps to his speed over 300 fold.
The Player will never get the opportunity.
Most of this is against Dr. Eggman, which is personal beef. He never underestimated Dark Gaia, Merlina, etc.
Sonic can gain Soul Gauge via several ways, one in particular through upgrades being via simply running. So Sonic will be passively generating Soul Energy throughout the fight.
Edit: Tbh this may just be a mismatch. Either Sonic stomps this key or gets stomped by the others.
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The player seems to have win conditions though. Just that Sonic seems to get his win conditions off more often than not
Ayewale
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Yeah because those are world-ending threats he knows are dangerous. Against a ridiculous-looking teenage wizard Sonic would almost undoubtedly not take them very seriously.
Far as I can tell this wouldn't build nearly enough to makeup for sonic being completely unable to land an attack, so assuming the probability hax works he'd still end up losing in the long term.
Although if this match is literally "sonic goes with 350x speed and the player never gets the chance to act" then I'd call it a stomp.
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@XxZetsuxX Should I just make it Base Sonic? You said that even with Excalibur, the player still has win conditions
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