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Yet another Goku vs Naruto matchup….
- Thread starter MeiouHades
- Start date
Fezzih_007
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According with Toriyama, it is.
The Yuki think he talks abouts.
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Is this an accepted thing on the wiki?
Fezzih_007
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Well, we have Reinhard vs Goku on the profiles, that one being a complete stomp for Reinhard, but because Goku have one-wincon is as added.
Since Goku wincon of hittting him once is the same here, it can probally be added.
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So basically Naruto has:
Initial speed advantage that due to Gokus character would benefit him
Invulnerability to his Ki attacks
Busted precog
EE and other dura neg.
While goku has:
He can punch him really hard
Transform into kaioken to overcome the speed gap but isn't something he'd do instantly.
Also Goku would underestimate Naruto at first due to him being way weaker in stats.
Initial speed advantage that due to Gokus character would benefit him
Invulnerability to his Ki attacks
Busted precog
EE and other dura neg.
While goku has:
He can punch him really hard
Transform into kaioken to overcome the speed gap but isn't something he'd do instantly.
Also Goku would underestimate Naruto at first due to him being way weaker in stats.
Fezzih_007
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MeiouHades
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- Thread starter
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Understood. I’ll try to chill.
XSOULOFCINDERX
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He literally conceded that he was wrong on that, read his next response.
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if a limited has been set, then it quite literally CAN'T be a "Non limits falacy"
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Wait is making characters specifically not in character even allowed?
XSOULOFCINDERX
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Yes, it is.
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Ah well that takes away a small advantage from Naruto since he still has his abilities and hax. Their speed is about equal if Goku goes kaioken instantly but precog easily makes up for that.
- 3,888
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That would be a no limits fallacy actually yes.
Just because you can negate energy doesn’t mean you can negate an infinite amount of energy for example.
If you can negate “fire”, that doesn’t mean you can just turn off the sun.
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A limit has been already set, aka it can't be No limits fallacy
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No, but if you could negate the properties of plasma, the sun wouldn't affect you.
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Uh not necessarily no. The Sun’s core is made of plasma, but you’d need to prove you’re able to negate those specific properties which make plasma in the sun (or one that level) instead of just saying “I can negate plasma” and extrapolating that to all forms of plasma anywhere.
All plasmas aren’t created equal. The way we get plasma through a plasma cutter and the temperature plasma reaches through the process of nuclear fusion in the sun are pretty different things and can vary wildly in temperature.
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What is the limit of energy naruto can negate?
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It has to be infused with Ki/Chakra to be negated.
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Traumatizing experiences.
I had a literal, actual real life human being that I didn’t know from discord show up to my IRL address and yeah that was definitely enough for me to get away from that
Be careful out there my friend.
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That’s not a “limit” rather than a weakness so you’d still be doing a no limits fallacy, which is that you’re saying it doesn’t matter how much energy is put it to the attack, it will be negated.
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....what the ****
did the mf just randomly decide to show up?
edit: stay safe brother, and porbably call the police
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Also, why are we still covering negation and NLFs? I thought we established that:
If anything, what should be disputed is whether or not ki from Dragon Ball and chakra from Naruto should fall under verse equalization, rather than this rabbit hole of hax, resistances, and NLF.
Y'all seriously enlisted into another war midway through this thread.
- Dimensionality affects resistances and hax.
- Verse equalization allows ki and chakra to be treated as the same thing due to their similar functions.
If anything, what should be disputed is whether or not ki from Dragon Ball and chakra from Naruto should fall under verse equalization, rather than this rabbit hole of hax, resistances, and NLF.
Y'all seriously enlisted into another war midway through this thread.
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The same any invulnerability has, higher dimensional smurf stuff, this was already said
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YES!
There’s a bit more to the story but yeah the guy literally did just randomly decide one day to drive 2+ hours to do this.
The wildest part was that when I first saw this guy, his first words to me were “What’s up (insert my real life name here)!” Again, no prior knowledge on who tf this guy was.
And I’m literally looking back at him like this:
Absolute insanity.
XSOULOFCINDERX
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What the actual ****...?YES!
There’s a bit more to the story but yeah the guy literally did just randomly decide one day to drive 2+ hours to do this.
The wildest part was that when I first saw this guy, his first words to me were “What’s up (insert my real life name here)!” Again, no prior knowledge on who tf this guy was.
And I’m literally looking back at him like this:
Absolute insanity.
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Discord truly is one of the places of all time.
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h-he even knew your name?YES!
There’s a bit more to the story but yeah the guy literally did just randomly decide one day to drive 2+ hours to do this.
The wildest part was that when I first saw this guy, his first words to me were “What’s up (insert my real life name here)!” Again, no prior knowledge on who tf this guy was.
And I’m literally looking back at him like this:
Absolute insanity.
...i'm getting the chills
people are insane
Hasty12345
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Naruto FRA
PhantomØ4
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Reinhard would revive, I don’t even know why that’s added. This and that are equally as bs. The one in a morbillion chance is insane.
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Naruto fra
Fezzih_007
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Goku using Hakai as a Wincon.
Fezzih_007
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Apparently, that as good enough to add.
Well, is not like Goku don't have ways to hit Naruto.
Well, is not like Goku don't have ways to hit Naruto.
Fezzih_007
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That's mean.
I do have a argument for Goku hitting Naruto, but i don't want to say It.
PhantomØ4
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I wasn’t calling you stupid my bad lol.That's mean.
I do have a argument for Goku hitting Naruto, but i don't want to say It.
What is the argument for Goku hitting Naruto?
The speed gap is pretty big without kaiokens that leave Goku completely exhausted regardless of how much damage he takes because he is auto damaging himself.
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Senjutsu is the stuff he ISNT immune to
